what a freeper told me about my "shackin' up"

[liberalitch]

That we were both going to hell.... and that once bush is reinaugarated that he was gonna have the houses of gays and hetro couples living together and we were all going to be put on trial according to the "blue" laws in our states.
Not only that but that our godfearing president would make birth control illegal and THEN all of our fornicating would have to stop!

I said nothing.... but I should have said she needed love

[Bronco69]

1. You should have told her to

take a f**king hike! :-)

[davidinalameda]

2. you were dealing with a very disturbed person

that must have been an experience

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. Tell her God loves her anyway

http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/

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[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

12. I like it!

I really do :)

[Hokie]

18. How about this...

I have had enough of your crap and I am going to kill you. You will never know what happened becasue your god is a figment of your imagination.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. Heh!

:evilgrin: I'll have to remember that one.

[Steely_Dan]

33. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[barb162]

5. so are you more afraid of the slammer or hell, may I ask how old

this idiot is

[RubyDuby in GA]

6. I believe it

I had bible thumpers wake me up a few Saturdays ago with the wonderful greeting of "Do you want to go to Hell?" Ya know, I personally believe there is a right way and a wrong way to greet someone that's why I don't feel bad about cussing that asshole out and slamming the door in his face.

As for your judger, I would have told her that I would pray for her to find Jesus in her heart. That would have sent her over the edge :)

[Maat]

9. Sorry you had to go to through that experience.

Reminds me of a story (sorry).

When Hubby and I were in our early 20's, before we took the plunge, I told my evil, mean, spiteful and vindictive mother that we were going to move in together (in the early 80's). She told me that if I did that, she would never speak to me again.

And so ... I said .. "Have a nice life!" Have only talked to her sporadically in the last 20+ years. I'm not being spiteful. We just don't agree on anything - anything.

By the way, we've been together for 27 years, and married for 21. So much for the stereotypes.

[RubyDuby in GA]

22. Wow. Good for you guys!

Sorry about your mom though. But I totally understand. Just because they're family doesn't make them family. :)

[Maat]

24. Exactly.

It's been a painful decision. But you can either wallow in misery or just move on and be happy.

It's hard for people to understand, but there is a category of person that is so miserable that you either yield to self-destruction and profound depression, or you minimize the contact, live happy and move on.

[RubyDuby in GA]

26. Well

Here's to making the right decision. :toast:

There's plenty in this world to make us miserable that we can't help, so no need to put up with the stuff that drives us crazy that we can help.

[SemperEadem]

19. I'd have said "Why, we're already there.. didn't you know?"

[JHB]

65. "Ahh, so you guys didn't get Raptured out either?"

Just came to mind. Hope it does that if the occasion ever comes up again.

[justa]

84. lol best response yet. I might have to steal it.

[NuttyFluffers]

56. i usually reply yes to that question.

it tends to throw them off.

when they tell me all the people who are lucky enough to get to go to hell -- anywhere from 'false christians,' catholics, protestants, asians, unpenetant whites, blacks, etc under the freakin' sun basically -- i always thought it'd be a far better place than this horrible 'heaven' they speak about. who wants to be in a place where you get to miss out on all those wonderful people?

so yeah, i usually ask what's the fastest most assured way to get a ticket straight to hell. after they look aghast and try to rattle a few sins, i say, 'did that, yeah, and that, oh that, so fun i did it again,' and eventually they go away.

they need to loosen up, i'm sure there's a way for them to see the joys of hell :evilgrin:

[Bridget Burke]

60. "To Hell I would go..."

From the medieval French:

to Hell I will go, since to Hell the fine scholars go, and the lovely knights who are slain in the jousts and in the great wars, and the good soldier and the noble man: with them I would go: and there go the lovely courteous ladies who have two or three lovers as well as their lords, and there go the gold and the silver and ermine and miniver, and there go the harpers and singers and kings of this world.

www.tonykline.co.uk/Browsepages/French/AucassinandNicolette.htm

[nini]

7. LOL

they are so freaking uptight.

you were right to not say anything.. she's nuts and wouldn't get it anyway.

[Carl Brennan]

8. Throw a dildo at her and say:

"It's easy to use, and you don't have to worry about the asshole on the other end."

[Miami Liberal]

11. ROFLMAO!

that should shut her up for good.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

80. Thank you very much

I just about hemorrhaged laughing so hard over that one. I got this mental flash.

[Anakin Skywalker]

10. Heh. The Disturbing Thing is

many of these blue laws are still on the books and are thrown at unfortunate people every now and then. I expect them to be used more often now that the fundies are emboldened by their so-called "victory".

[SweetLeftFoot]

89. The Handmaidens tale

By Margaret Attwood. Ever read it? Of all the dystopian future novels (Brave New World, 1984), I've always thought Attwood's vision of a fundamentalist Christian US was the closest to ever being possible.

[bloom]

13. That's pretty far out there (at least I hope so)

Reminds me of the nut going off at my brothers, "the unsaved are dead already..."

I sure hope this mindset isn't getting legs.

[NMDemDist2]

14. i had a woman tell me I had blood on my hands for supporting

Kerry (over abortion) when I was leafleting a movie theater

[JanMichael]

15. I wonder what percentage of Bush voters are mentally ill?

Like the one you quote.

25%? 50%?

[politicat]

52. well, Utah does have the highest Valium & Prozac consumption of any

state, per capita....

I'm just sayin....

Pcat

[demily]

16. It's going to be really funny

When Bush doesn't fulfill a single psycho expectation these people have. Why would he go after cohabiting couples? If it doesn't line his pockets or the pockets of his cronies, he's not interested. He only appeased the evangelicals to get their votes, and now he doesn't need them anymore.

Of course, I wouldn't put anything past bush these days.... *knocking on wood*

[SemperEadem]

20. really! their own president fornicated with them and threw them out

once he got what he wanted... must be sickening feeling used and thrown out before you got one demand in.

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. Yea they were duped and don't know it ............yet!

:evilgrin: Can't wait 'til they find out!

[taught_me_patience]

48. great post...

but it will line the pockets of his corporate cronies. Think of it...

20 yr old guy has sex... no contraception... had three kids by 23... He now is "handcuffed" to his crappy LOW PAYING job w/no resources for further education or looking for a new job. Saves corporations a lot of money. :grr:


taught.

[ProfessorGAC]

62. Fails The Skills Test

Corporations don't make the kind of return they make in today's economy without skilled workers. Your description might be apt if we're talking about everyone being a janitor or a short order cook. (No offense to anyone who does that, btw.)

But, the big corporations need skilled people and if they depress wages through social engineering, they depress their own profits.
The Professor

[justa]

85. corporations need skilled people but

The military is running a little short of volunteers these days

[SweetLeftFoot]

88. Similarly

It would be self-defeating of the Bush Republicans to actually fulfil these demands.

Their whole electoral premise is based on using wedge social issues to disguise their real agenda. If they can fool Joe Sixpack into voting about "moral values", chances are he's not going to think about some of their other policies that will end with him jobless or dead.

However, if they do actually fulfil these promises, then they will have to find a whole new set of wedge issues to fool people with.

No, Bush will "try" and push stuff through - deliberatley fail - and then blame it all on the "liberal elites". That way, in 2008 they can say - hey we tried and we almost got there, vote for us again and we'll get it through this time, we promise.

By then of course China will be dicatating US ecoinomic policy.

[SemperEadem]

17. you should have told her it must be real painful getting around

with the telephone pole jutting out of her eye.

[karlrschneider]

21. Was it a guy? It sounds like it...and one who couldn't get a blowjob if

he walked into a woman's prison with a suitcase full of pardons...
:eyes:

[eissa]

27. LOL!!

I gotta use that line! There are some repuke co-workers who TOTALLY fit that description!

[frogfromthenorth2]

23. She's listening to much at Dr Laura... that is the EXACT drivel she spew

on her POPULAR radio show... I am so glad I live up here....

[MemphisTiger]

90. I love it when the callers call in with

I'm seperated from the father of my baby, but I'm shacking up with another man. Is this wrong? What do they think Dr(?) Laura is going to say? Have they even listened to her show before? Then they cry when she blasts them.

[xultar]

25. How often does she take the chasity lock and chain off her coochie?

:crazy:

[Democracy Died 2004]

28. Man i love to

fornicate. I am a heathen but damn it's fun.

[6th Borough]

29. I wouldn't even CONSIDER marrying someone unless I lived w/them first.

Damn idiots. Perhaps that is one of the reasons red states, in general, have much higher divorce rates than blue states.

[MountainLaurel]

32. Hear, hear

I truly think that repressed sexual urges are one of the other reasons. You're 18 years old and the only way you can have sex is to get married, so what are you going to do? You may be an adult physically, but as a person you still have a shitload of growing to do. So, 5 years and 3 kids later, when the wife wants to go back to college or the husband feels trapped, they face eternal hellfire (sarcasm) and get divorced.

[Stinky The Clown]

30. Lemme guess ... this was a 46 year old virgin?

[SOS]

31. They go on and on and on

about birth control, gays, "living in sin", sex toys, porn.....
but never a word about DIVORCE.
They want to defend marriage? Let's abolish divorce. See how they like that.

The states with the lowest divorce rates:

Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

The states with the highest divorce rates:

Florida, New Mexico, Idaho, Alabama, Indiana, Wyoming, Tennessee, Oklahoma
Arkansas Nevada

[Sapphocrat]

34. She needs 'love'?

She needs a shrink.

[Shopaholic]

35. See, here's the thing that I have never understood. . .

and I say this as someone who grew up a Southern Baptist--these people proclaim to be filled with the spirit of Jesus and God's love and all that good stuff but in my experience, some of the most bitter, spiteful, mean-spirited, and most miserably unhappy people I have ever known declared themselves to be Christians. They're racists, sexist, and homophobic and those are the nicest things I could call some of these folks. And I always just want to look at them and ask them are they reading a different Bible than the one I own. I just don't get it. . . nor do I want to. They can go their way and I'll go my way but I"ll be damned if I let them cram their narrow-minded and hate filled views and "values" down my throat

[Sapphocrat]

43. You seek very complex answers, grasshopper :D

I share your indignation and bemusement, but thinking people (like you, me, and 99.9% of DU) will never be able to truly understand how racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., somehow became tenets of Christianity for the Church of the Radically Wrong.

As I continue to mull over the how's and why's of all institutionally-organized hypocrisy, I keep coming back to the same conclusion, summed up perfectly in two little words: cognitive dissonance. (OK, so they're two big words, but still.)

In a nutshell, it's too "soul"-shattering for most people to come to the realization that everything they were taught is wrong. To understand that one's lifelong beliefs are a farce is just too much to take without a complete nervous breakdown -- and so they cling all that much harder to a contradictory and destructive mindset that to any sane person is obviously, well, just stupid and wrong.

I also believe that the more one senses, inherently, that one's "values" are shaky at best, the more xenophobic one becomes toward anyone or anything that threatens to expose those "values" as a sham. Thus, the greater the threat of enlightenment, the more extreme the religious radical.

(Disclaimer: I don't mean Christianity is stupid, wrong, etc. -- I'm talking about the utter corruption -- nay, abortion -- of genuine Christian values.)

[thecrow]

81. very astute observation :)

Thanks!
I totally agree!

[BiggJawn]

57. I have seen that too. Lots of unhappy people claim to have "Joy"...

I ask "So, what do you DO in heaven all day?"
"Why, you serve GAWD..."
"That's IT???"
"Yeah, pretty much..."
"Sounds pretty boring. No hobbies, no cooking, no SEX????"
"Oh, you won't NEED sex..."
"Will I be with my wife in Heaven?"
"If she's SAVED."
"But NO SEX...I don't think that sounds very good. "
"But you won't have those EARTHLY DESIRES. All you will desire to do is to SERVE GAWD..."

"Wait...You mean I live a life of denial and fear of an invisible Guy in the Sky just so that after I die, I become some kind of mindless THRALL??? WHAT rational human being, please to tell me would see the attraction in THAT????"

"Uhhh...I gotta go now, church is starting!"

[JHB]

69. Time to break out Mark Twain...

...and his "Letters From the Earth", quite a shock to the folks who think he's all "Tom, Huck, and Becky".

Letter II from the Archangel Lucifer to the Archangels Michael and Gabriel: (mods: this is public domain material)

For there is nothing about man that is not strange to an immortal. He looks at nothing as we look at it, his sense of proportion is quite different from ours, and his sense of values is so widely divergent from ours, that with all our large intellectual powers it is not likely that even the most gifted among us would ever be quite able to understand it.

For instance, take this sample: he has imagined a heaven, and has left entirely out of it the supremest of all his delights, the one ecstasy that stands first and foremost in the heart of every individual of his race -- and of ours -- sexual intercourse!

It is as if a lost and perishing person in a roasting desert should be told by a rescuer he might choose and have all longed-for things but one, and he should elect to leave out water!

His heaven is like himself: strange, interesting, astonishing, grotesque. I give you my word, it has not a single feature in it that he actually values. It consists -- utterly and entirely -- of diversions which he cares next to nothing about, here in the earth, yet is quite sure he will like them in heaven. Isn't it curious? Isn't it interesting? You must not think I am exaggerating, for it is not so. I will give you details.
-------
2. In man's heaven everybody sings! The man who did not sing on earth sings there; the man who could not sing on earth is able to do it there. The universal singing is not casual, not occasional, not relieved by intervals of quiet; it goes on, all day long, and every day, during a stretch of twelve hours. And everybody stays; whereas in the earth the place would be empty in two hours. The singing is of hymns alone. Nay, it is of one hymn alone. The words are always the same, in number they are only about a dozen, there is no rhyme, there is no poetry: "Hosannah, hosannah, hosannah, Lord God of Sabaoth, 'rah! 'rah! 'rah! siss! -- boom! ... a-a-ah!"

3. Meantime, every person is playing on a harp -- those millions and millions! -- whereas not more than twenty in the thousand of them could play an instrument in the earth, or ever wanted to.

Consider the deafening hurricane of sound -- millions and millions of voices screaming at once and millions and millions of harps gritting their teeth at the same time! I ask you: is it hideous, is it odious, is it horrible?

Consider further: it is a praise service; a service of compliment, of flattery, of adulation! Do you ask who it is that is willing to endure this strange compliment, this insane compliment; and who not only endures it, but likes it, enjoys it, requires if, commands it? Hold your breath!

It is God! This race's god, I mean. He sits on his throne, attended by his four and twenty elders and some other dignitaries pertaining to his court, and looks out over his miles and miles of tempestuous worshipers, and smiles, and purrs, and nods his satisfaction northward, eastward, southward; as quaint and nave a spectacle as has yet been imagined in this universe, I take it.

It is easy to see that the inventor of the heavens did not originate the idea, but copied it from the show-ceremonies of some sorry little sovereign State up in the back settlements of the Orient somewhere.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/twain/letearth.htm

[BiggJawn]

79. Exactly!

"It is easy to see that the inventor of the heavens did not originate the idea, but copied it from the show-ceremonies of some sorry little sovereign State up in the back settlements of the Orient somewhere."


Or a Benny Hinn or Paul Crouch "Crusade"...

[thecrow]

82. That's exactly why I cannot identify anymore

with "organized" religion.
Raised Baptist, I could not stand what I called hypocrisy and I started to see it at about age 12.
Later I became Methodist which was a little better but when I was going through a divorce I saw just how much "Christian love" there really was... persons who applauded and encouraged me to get divorced suddenly became very judgemental about my new partner.
We have both been through the horrors if divorce and wanted our union to be special, so we began a very committed household together.
It would make your head spin. That was 11 years ago.
A cousin of mine told me that this was adultery... but it would be made all better if we got married. Really!@!? I feel more connected and comfortable with my life partner than when I was married.

So now I'll go to church on Christmas to hear the carols sometimes, but mostly my faith has become more personal for me, and NOT as any member of some organization.
I feel more at peace with it all now.

[justa]

86. I completely agree

I also grew up southern Baptist left in my early teens. My eyes were opened when the deacons voted to ban sinners from the church. I had, as they say a moment of clarity, and so the people around me as the Hypocrites they were. It took me another 15 years to find peace within myself and my religious beliefs. i will never be able to forgive those people for the way I felt for years after I left.

[MemphisTiger]

91. Aren't sinners the ones you want to be IN church?

I thought the whole point of a church was to expose it to the "unchurched"? At least this is the supposed goal of and evangelical chruch. I guess they just want an organization of people who look, act, and talk like them.

[Jurgis]

39. She needs...

to have somebody sock her one.

[foreigncorrespondent]

45. Now now!

That really wouldn't be a very progressive approach now would it?

[Jurgis]

59. No, but....

she doesn't sound like she understands progressive philosophy. Sometimes you just have to speak to people in a language they understand. Even right-wingers can benefit from a good sock.

[bleedingheart]

61. would that be a wool or cotton sock?

[foreigncorrespondent]

77. Ummm!

You seem to have missed the point! It is quite obvious to me that she is far from a progressive. But coming here and saying what you said isn't exactly being progressive either, is it? Why lower yourself to their standard? And don't give me the line about "sometimes you have to speak to people in a language they understand" because you don't. If you are a progressive then you are above that. And there is nothing that should make you lower yourself to another persons level.

[Jurgis]

87. Actually I get your point...

quite well. It's just that I'm more of a radical leftist in the Che Guevarra, Eldridge Cleaver, or Freddy Hampton genre' than the progressive idealist Mister Rogers, Sally Struthers genre'. I think the recent election has established the validity of my position. You are welcome to choose whatever position you like, but if you choose the "will not lower myself to thier behavior" position, I'd suggest you not attend any street riots as the cops will beat you to a bloody pulp. Hope this doesn't sound like a rant, I didn't intend it to.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

36. A Puritan, someone said, is a person who lives in abject fear

that someone, somewhere might be having a good time.

[Keirsey]

37. more "What's the Matter with Kansas"

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=Kansas+covenant+marriage&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d


If this passes, looking for mariticide/uxoricide to skyrocket.


http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/gswithenbank/killword.htm

[sphincter]

44. Puzzling

So the US is trying to adopt Sharia? I thought the US gov't hated them "ragheads"?

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
The only difference between the US and Iran is the name of their religions...

[CoffeeAnnan]

38. Tell her that you took the old advice: The best way to overcome

temptation was to succumb to it.

[MountainLaurel]

41. How did this come up in conversation?

Or was it a drive-by biblethumping?

[InvisibleBallots]

46. bullshit

"once bush is reinaugarated that he was gonna have the houses of gays and hetro couples living together and we were all going to be put on trial according to the "blue" laws in our states"

[Guy Fawkes]

47. As far as fornication goes...

Lawrence and Garner V. Texas stopped all sodomy laws- permanently.

[Digit]

49. Hmmm how do they chastise old ladies like myself who have no fear?

No fear of unwanted pregnancy?
Look out if I get to feeling wanton AND rebellious at the same time!

[BeeBee]

50. I used to work with a fundie...

who told me I was "living in sin" with my partner because we weren't married. When I explained to her that we couldn't get legally married because we are gay she said that that would be a sin too. She never did understand how flawed her logic was.

[flvegan]

51. "Mmmm...yeah...say "fornicating" again. You make me sooo horny!"

That's what I'd have said.

No, maybe I'd have just said, "shit, lady, you need to get LAID!"

[underseasurveyor]

53. Should have told her to go fuck herself.

Cheney's orders :evilgrin:

[tuvor]

54. Did you ask what he's doing to keep married couples from divorcing?

The Bible can be shown to be against divorce, but nothing--NOTHING--in there says you have to be married before cohabitating.

[Piperay]

55. This fundie once said to

me and my boyfriend 'you know adultery is a sin don't you'??? :wtf: We were pretty shocked but managed to say 'yes we know adultery is a sin, but who is committing adultery'??? :shrug: Neither my boyfriend or I was married not to each and not to anyone else either. x( As usual just another fundie who talking out of their ass and didn't even know the actual definition of adultery. :silly:

[sendero]

58. You should have...

... laughed in her face. It's one thing for a person to believe such utter drivel, it is something else when they dare to put you down by articulating it.

Beneath contempt.

[genieroze]

63. Sounds like she needs a good MYOFB bitch slap!

Tell her she's going to hell for praying to Bush the Antichrist. Tell her not to worry about having sex with Satan when she goes there, he's probably not that desperate when he can have a Rottweiler instead. Tell her to use Raid for the fruitflys on her rotting cherry. Let me guess she's fat, nasty and has her front teeth missing at least the one I know does. Let me see she blasts religious music in her car, and loves her gun. If she is married every six months she does her duty and has sex she thinks she's pregnant because she looks like she is. I'm speaking from personal experience. Get this my Freeper voted for Kerry, she said Bush is not a real Christian, because he's a war monger, and she married a moderate.:wow: Don't mind me today, I'm in one of my moods. I got PMS and a gun, now what did you say? lol

[RubyDuby in GA]

64. Wow

You know what they say - if you can't say something nice, come sit next to me...

I need to sit next to you at something. Damn we'd have a ball!

[UdoKier]

66. I would have just laughed, cuz that AIN'T gonna happen.

And I would much rather be in hell with the fun people than in whatever filthy heaven is inhabited by the likes of Bush and Pat Robertson.

[susu369]

67. Well, it's going to take longer than four years to round us all up

so I guess they figure the 2008 election is wrapped up.

:evilgrin:

[ArkDem]

68. Shackin' up is just marriage without the commitment...

nuthin' worng wit dat!

[sniffa]

70. where are you from?

bLue Laws - isn't that a new engLand thing?

[Quill Pen]

71. Isn't she cute...

...perhaps you should have invited her for a threesome with your "shack-up."

[Hobarticus]

72. That wasn't a Republican...that person was mentally ill...

That type of bizarro thinking just ain't right. That's Coulteresque.

[greyfox]

73. What a crock

(excuse me)... BUSH isn't gonna DO anything... and when God gets ready to tear down such "houses", He knows how without the help of us Christians. Our job is to share in LOVE what He (Jesus ) did for us... and let it fall where it falls... my fellow Christians (IF they said such ignorant things) really get my goat at times... and I hate that feeling.
No wonder the Repubs think we Democrats/Independents are heathens!!!

[roguevalley]

74. should have asked her when was the last time she got laid.

[Arkana]

75. What a blowhard

Hope your neighbor chokes on his Bible.

[superconnected]

76. she want's shacker-ups segregated and tried...

Tell her, her nazi mentality is sickening and scary. It is.

And then don't having anything to do with her again. She's bigoted and evil(wether you believe in God or not)

[SOS]

78. Let's do a Seven Deadlies analysis....

Pride - yes, she's believes her way is superior to yours.
Anger - "You're going to hell" sounds pretty nasty.
Greed - I got mine, you're screwed.
Gluttony - Need more details, but somehow doubtful that she looked like Gwyneth Paltrow.
Envy - Most likely, but she'll never tell.
Lust - See envy
Sloth - Not enough info.

3 out of 7 minimum. Hellbound, for sure.

[Kipepeo]

83. Some of my extened family

believe that I am going to hell for "living in sin" and feel the need to *tell* me regularly, although my relatonship has outlasted most of my married cousins' and friends.' Makes no sense.

About the illegal birth control and illegal shacking up: they are certainly pushing for it, but I don't think it will happen. Too many previously non-political people would rise up when the personal became political.