Was Singer Bobby Darin a victim of Joe McCarthy Tactics?

[KoKo]

Keven Spacey couln't get any money in US to do a Bobby Darin movie, (considered "high risk),but he got it from Germany where they had to film the movie.....What's the real story here?

"Beyond the Sea" is the name of the song the movie is based on.....

Spacey now lives in London....he's director of a Theater Company of the "Old Vic Theater."

BACKGROUND:

Bobby Darin - merely a fifties 'rock n roller' who fluked 'Mack the Knife' and 'Beyond the Sea'? Not by a long chalk! ... The Legendary Bobby Darin web site. ...
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The Bobby Darin Story
The life and times of Bobby Darin, the man who transcended musical genres to become one of the outstanding vocalists of his generation. ... The Bobby Darin Story. ...
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Kevin Spacey Becomes Bobby Darin: Mind, Body And Voice... Kevin Spacey Becomes Bobby Darin: Mind, Body And Voice Friday October 29, 2004 @ 04:30 PM By: ChartAttack.com Staff. Bobby Darin. ...
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Lions Gate Films - Beyond the Sea... Synopsis. For BOBBY DARIN (Kevin Spacey), performing was his life. It kept his heart beating. He came alive onstage, even when he was near collapse offstage. ...
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[whalerider55]

1. Darin was also a very passable actor...

i assume you mean that spacey is living in London... Darin's been dead 25 years...

thansk for the links.

whalerider55

[KoKo]

3. Yes...Spacey lives in London I posted and quickly corrected..Thanks for

catching it on the "first out."

[DemBones DemBones]

6. Isn't it more like 30 years since Bobby died?

I'm thinking late 1973, maybe 1974. KoKo? Someone must KNOW the date.

[NWHarkness]

2. Uh, I believe he's dead

He's been dead about 30 years.

[KoKo]

4. Darin is Dead but Spacey Lives....typo...sorry! (n/t)

[DemBones DemBones]

5. Tell us what you know, KoKo, don't just post a teaser here!

Please. ;-)

Bobby Darin was a Red? Or what? Payola?

[medeak]

7. don't understand? "high risk"

he was certainly popular in Vegas.. met him in elevator.

Can't imagine his story being black balled....but will have to wait to see movie.

[KoKo]

8. Okay...sorry to leave you guy's/gal's hanging...thought those who knew

his music would post. Here's the deal about him:

Bobby dazzler - Evening Times
... Splash or Beyond the Sea people will say 'Yeah, that's Bobby Darin'. But then he
also sang If I Were a Carpenter, and protest songs about the Vietnam war, and ...
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Music of the Vietnam War Era - The First Decade
Copyright © Since 1988 The American War Library Vietnam War Era Music The ... Jerry Lee
Lewis LOLLIPOP - The Chordettes SPLISH SPLASH - Bobby Darin WHO'S SORRY ...
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BOBBY DARIN TRIBUTE :: Rewind the Fifties :: The Retro Fifties ...
... Our opposition to the Vietnam War, our support to publish the infamous ... it "heart
failure", but we who knew him, respectfully disagree, "Bobby Darin’s heart ...
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KEVIN SPACEY TELLS ANDY DOUGAN OF HIS MUSICAL MISSION.

KEVIN Spacey is famous for putting a lot of research into his big screen roles. But it is doubtful whether the Oscar winning actor has ever prepared for anything as long as he has for his latest film.

Spacey admits that he has really been preparing to play 1950s singer Bobby Darin for most of his life. In Beyond the Sea, Spacey plays the doomed Darin, a man who died tragically young but lived his life in a hurry. Darin and Spacey first crossed paths when the actor was only a boy living with his parents in the San Fernando Valley.

"It was the music," Spacey confesses. "My parents had a huge record collection. My dad had this enormous collection of old 78s. There were big bands and all that amazing brass, great singers like Sinatra, Bing Crosby and Ella Fitzgerald. And in the middle of all that there were a lot of Bobby Darin records."

Spacey muses that he and Darin must have grown up listening to the same kind of music. It was only when he became older and read a few books and articles about Darin that Spacey realised what a fascinating story Darin's life made. "People don't realise how much of Bobby's music they know," Spacey points out. "If I sing Mack the Knife or Splish Splash or Beyond the Sea people will say 'Yeah, that's Bobby Darin'. But then he also sang If I Were a Carpenter, and protest songs about the Vietnam war, and country songs.

"He attacked as many musical genres as he could in what was a relatively short 15-year career," says Spacey pointing out that only probably Elvis Presley and Ray Charles have had as many hits in so many styles. Darin was a driven man. Stricken with rheumatic fever as a child, his heart was left permanently scarred. Darin knew he wouldn't make old age and, as Spacey sees it, that's why he was so keen to experiment.

"That's the real challenge in playing him," he explains. "He would adapt his voice for different musical styles and that's why he 's not as famous as Sinatra, for example. You look for a Bobby Darin disc in a record store and he'll be in about 30 different sections."

It was in the late 1980s that Kevin Spacey got the notion to make a film about Bobby Darin's life. He knew there had been a film in development at Warner Brothers almost since Darin died in 1973. "I desperately wanted to play that role but oddly enough they didn't want to cast this unknown theatre actor fresh from New York," he says dripping sarcasm.

(SNIP)

There was still one major problem - they had no director. Spacey had approached a number of directors and one or two were in talks but it became impossible to get schedules to mesh. Since he was already almost 10 years older than Darin was when he died, the 45-year-old Spacey bit the bullet and decided to direct himself.


• Beyond the Sea (12a) opens in Glasgow tomorrow.

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[Old and In the Way]

9. Darin wrote one of the great anti-war tunes of all time.

Simple Song of Freedom

Come and sing a simple song of freedom
Sing it like you've never sung before
Let it fill the air
Tell the people everywhere
We, the people here, don't want a war.

Hey, there, mister black man, can you hear me?
I don't want your diamonds or your game
I just want to be someone known to you as me
And I will bet my life you want the same.

Come and sing a simple song of freedom
Sing it like you’ve never sung before
Let it fill the air
Tell the people everywhere
We, the people here, don’t want a war.

Seven hundred million are ya list'nin’?
Most of what you read is made of lies
But, speakin’ one to one ain't it everybody's sun
To wake to in the mornin’ when we rise?

Come and sing a simple song of freedom
Sing it like you’ve never sung before
Let it fill the air
Tell the people everywhere
We, the people here, don’t want a war.

Brother Solzhenitsyn, are you busy?
If not, won't you drop this friend a line
Tell me if the man who is plowin' up your land
Has got the war machine upon his mind?

Come and sing a simple song of freedom
Sing it like you’ve never sung before
Let it fill the air
Tell the people everywhere
We, the people here, don’t want a war.

Now, no doubt some folks enjoy doin' battle
Like presidents, prime ministers and kings
So, let's all build them shelves
Where they can fight among themselves
Leave the people be who love to sing.

Come and sing a simple song of freedom
Sing it like you’ve never sung before
Let it fill the air
Tell the people everywhere
We, the people here, don’t want a war.

I say … let it fill the air …
Tellin’ people everywhere …
We, the people, here don't want a war.

[Spirochete]

10. Is that the one

he wrote for Tim Hardin to record, to pay Hardin back for writing "If I Were a Carpenter" for Darin to record? Or so the story I heard goes, anyhow.

[Old and In the Way]

11. Tim Hardin was the guy that made it famous......

not sure about the quid pro quo, though.