Election Fraud Hearing Starts 7:00 a.m. Pacific time: Listen live on-line

[Peace Patriot]

For those just waking up on the Pacific coast, Rep. Conyers' hearings on Election Fraud 2004 start early today, at 7:00 a.m. (10:00 a.m. for those in the east), and can be heard live on radio at:

http://www.kpfa.org/

SPECIAL BROADCAST

Today (Wed. 12/8/04) at 7:00 am

Forum on Voting Discrepancies in Ohio

Pacifica Radio Network and KPFA Present:

Congressman John Conyers, Jr. Live from Capitol Hill, a Forum on Voting Discrepancies in Ohio

Wednesday, December 8th
7 to 11 am PST
with national Affairs Correspondent Larry Bensky and KPFA Morning Show host, Andrea Lewis.

Discussion will focus on voting problems in Ohio and elsewhere, particularly the disenfranchisement of Black voters.
Panel and Witnesses Invited include:

Ralph Neas, People For the American Way
Jon Greenbaum or Jonah Goldman, Lawyer Committee For Civil Rights Under Law
Ellie Smeal from Feminist Majority
Bob Fitrakis, Free Press
Cliff Arnebeck
Rev. Jesse Jackson (tentative yes)
John Bonifaz, National Voting Institute
Steve Rosenfeld, producer
Hilary Shelton, NAACP
Greg Moore, NAACP Voting Fund
Greg Palast
Dorri Steinhoff (CASE Ohio)
Rep. Kucinch
Rep. Brown
Rep. Jones
Rep. Ryan
Rep. Nadler
Rep. Wexler
Rep. Scott
Madeline Albright, former Secretary of State
John Zogby, pollster
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From the C-Span tv schedule!
It will be on C-Span (1)
10:00 am (Eastern)
2:00 (est. conclusion)
LIVE

Forum
Voting Irregularities in Ohio
U.S. House of Representatives, Conyers, J. (D-MI)
John Conyers Jr., D-MI
The beginning and end of this live program may be earlier or later than the scheduled times.

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Additional info at:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x127143

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x106915#107356

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Apparently there is C-Span on line. Anyone know the url?

[Jo March]

1. Kick

I wish I had speakers and a sound card in this piece of crap computer here at work. :(

[siddharta]

2. CSpan Will Carry Hearings at 10:00 AM ET

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/schedule.csp

[Left Brain]

44. One more kick

for the working west coasters.



:kick:

[patdem]

3. Here is a link to C-Span

http://www.c-span.org/

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and click on the Live Coverage links. I believe it will be on C-Span 1. You can chose to watch or just listen.

[Ian David]

5. What are the call-in numbers in case they take calls later?

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. I'm almost afraid to tune in. I fear I'll become incredibly

frustrated if its a brush up job.

[noclonyofthechimp]

6. It isn't organized at the moment. They haven't started.

[Pacifist Patriot]

7. The opening remarks from Conyers and Nadler are encouraging.

[berner59]

8. Rep Lee...

She said this election has been tainted...oh yeah!!! She's challenging Congress to have more hearings...double yeah!!

[Pacifist Patriot]

10. This is starting to have the feel of a watershed moment.

I hope I'm not projecting my wishful thinking on it.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

9. Jesse Jackson is laying it out the fraud scam beautifully now 7:30amPST

Urgent, concise, articulate.

The way a Dem who actually meant to win would speak. (hint hint)

Michael Moore was right when he said the Repubs told a better story meaning how you say things determines whether anyone notices and agrees and acts on what you say.

[Zan_of_Texas]

11. Nees just spoke. Now David Cobb.

Nees, of Common Cause:

"We should be the model of democracy, not the model of hypocrisy."

Both Jesse Jackson and Cong. Sheila Jackson Lee already demanded a forensic examination of voting machines!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

12. Cobb calls out the corporate controlled parties.

Both of 'em.

[goclark]

13. It is glorious!

Cobbs was wonderful,

Arnebeck:
Election must be fixed before this election is finalized
People can not expect a fraudulent election for these United States.
We will not move on until we find out what the fraud was and correct it.
Conspiracy against Black Americans!

Jackson Lee referred to Iraq, how can we with a straight face go to Iraq when we have a corrupt election in our own country.
It must be cleaned up now.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

14. ARNBECK quote

"The fraud in this election should be fixed BEFORE this election is finalized"

[Pacifist Patriot]

15. I scared my children when I gave him a rowsing "Amen Brother!"

for that one. This "looking forward to 2006" is bugging the crap out of me.

[tsuki]

20. I loved that one. And Fitrakis' Lincoln quote.

[3days]

16. Why isn't Blackwell here?

I thought he was supposed to show

[ailsagirl]

47. HAH!! Blackwell was invited, as were the Repug members of

the House but, naturally, none of them showed up. Cowards.

Blackwell was roundly denounced... it was music to my ears: finally, hearing people telling it like it is!!

I didn't know that cops were giving parking tickets to those who had parked too long. Why had they parked so long? They were trying to vote. Some of them waited five-six-seven hours. That's inexcusable.

How much lower can these repugs go??

[JohnOneillsMemory]

17. Second panel up now with someone from Zogby on it....n/t

[tsuki]

18. These guys were on Fire. Fitrakas was great. So was everyone.

Arnebeck looked angry.

:nuke:

[indigolady]

19. LISTENING TO JACKSON NOW. . .ON THE RADIO (KPFK)

WHAT WE NEED IS NOT A RECOUNT BUT A RE-VOTE. IN ALL THE STATES.

[PuraVidaDreamin]

21. Susan Truitt a TRUE GEM

"We have privatized OUR public elections!"

[indigolady]

26. PRIVATIZATION

I was thinking about all this privatization and global corporations. . . it's a way around the American concept. It's a way for the "ruling class" to gain control, despite our so called, "democracy." We thought we were a nation "of the people, for the people, and by the people." And though America never really lived up to that ideal, we believed we were moving in that direction. Now we see how democracy has been hijacked. Our founding "fathers" (and "mothers"), knowing that they were of the ruling class, decided to set up our constitution for this nation to move beyond being ruled by those with money. I don't know if we ever accomplished that, but we believed we were going in that direction.

It's heartening to listen to this forum. Democracy will not give in without speaking up. Where is our candidate? Next time (if we are so lucky) I want someone who speaks for me; who calls the liars on their lies; who isn't afraid to speak up for peace, dialog, and communication "diplomacy" with the other nations of the world. I want someone who isn't in the pocket of the ruling money of the world. I want someone who knows the difference between democracy and "free" market capitalism. I want someone who underrstands that universal, single payer (government) health insurance should not be tied to one's place of employment, which puts undue burdon on small business employers and employees.

I want a candidate who understands that accurate and accountable voting is the basis of democracy.

Thank you. Thank you, Thank you.

[Megahurtz]

36. Kick

Good post!

[Just Me]

42. Basically, all true Americans want real "democracy", too.

THANK YOU for your well-spoken post.

I would add that, in addition to ensuring the value of every vote (which would be the equivalent to valuing every American), we must also DEMAND transparency and accountability, and that the highest ethical standards and all common laws be applied equally and as forcibly to those who "represent" us,...as they do to our citizens.

NO ONE should ever be allowed the luxury of being above the law.

[henslee]

22. Anyone, is this on the radio in NY area??? (no internet audio)

[tsuki]

23. Bonifaz, two sets of electors, one chosen by Blackwell, one by the

people of Ohio. Go, team, go!

:kick:

[tsuki]

24. Sorry, dupe post. Guess I just got excited.

:kick:

[PuraVidaDreamin]

25. Like this young sassy whippershnapper

He really did take it to Blackwell!

[tsuki]

28. Did you hear earlier. I forget who gave Blackwell the "Katherine Harris"

award of the 2004 election. I think it was Neas, but don't quote me. I was laughing too hard.

[tsuki]

27. Jesse Jackson Jr.

Our "right" to vote is construed, but the right to a gun is explicit. Gotta love him.

[Stinky The Clown]

46. That quote should be preserved for the ages!

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Rev. Jackson!

(on edit, I just realized this was Rep. Jackson, the son of Rev. Jackson.

Doesn't change the brilliance of the quote)

[tsuki]

29. I must paraphase -

Representative Jackson asked if there were considerations of not allowing the seating of the Ohio Electors if the recount is not finished.

Representative Conyers said that there are now.

[Merlin]

30. Common Cause announces a lawsuit in Ohio

Tuned in late so I didn't get all the details, but Cliff Arnebeck of CC says the organization is filing (today?) a lawsuit in Ohio apparently against the state for equal protection violation in the 11/04 vote. They will base their case partly on the SCOTUS Bush v Gore 2000 "decision" which was based largely on the equal protection provisions under the constitution.

[WebeBlue]

31. Callin line to Pacifica/KPFA Now

ty for posting, listening. Toll free call in to Pacifica 1-800-958-9008 also by email [e-mail]

will post more later, took notes while listening.

[Merlin]

32. Questioner who claimed to read from US Constitution was bogus

A questioner stood up and made an impassioned appeal as to why we weren't pursuing the constitutional remedy for situations when peoples right to vote are abridged.

He claimed to be reading from "The Owner's Manual" (a term often used by the right for the Constitution).

I could find no such language in the document or any of its ammendments.

Am I missing something? Anybody have a better sense of what he was talking about?

[frictionlessO]

33. thanks for the play by play peoples, no audio at work here!

[grasswire]

34. what time did this end?

All I'm getting is a replay of WJ.

[insane_cratic_gal]

35. 1:00 pm eastern time

I watched from 11-1

[George W. Hayduke]

37. jesse jackson

was even getting teary eyed during the middle part when describing how the hard-fought civil rights (ie:blacks) movements are being set-back and basically vanquished with vote suppression. He was seriously starting to get choked up for a minute, God bless him.

[Left Brain]

38. Keep it Kicked!

Everyone who has been at work or has not had access to DU today needs a chance to read this. Very encouraging & uplifting! Lots of positive and encouraging news re vote fraud stuff this week.

(Edited to say thanks to everyone for the play-by-play.)

[peacetalksforall]

39. Does anyone know if all Dem & Inde Ohio House of Reps were at the

Form?

[Vidar]

40. Kick with a 21 gun salute to John Conyers and Jesse Jackson.

[HeeBGBz]

41. I just started watching and I'm pumped already

I taped it while I was at work so I hope I got all of it.

[tsuki]

43. I miss my VCR. Gonna get one.

[tiredofthisstuff]

45. Please God- Let something come of this!!!

Whaaat? Is that hope I feel? :headbang:

[ailsagirl]

48. It was fantastic

hearing those people talk. No one shrank from using the word FRAUD-- I loved the guy who quoted Gandhi:

At first they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they fight you
then you win

I'm paraphrasing but that's the gist...

To repeat, it was fantastic. I taped it off CSPAN but couldn't resist listening to it on KPFA...

[ailsagirl]

49. kick

[Jo March]

50. kick for the whole thread! n/t