rogerashton
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:20 AM
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It's time for Lieberman to pull out. |
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His campaign hasn't gotten traction and it won't. He can do no good by persisting, and, resorting to assassinating the character of other candidates who are viable, he can do much harm. It's pull-out time for a man of honor.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:24 AM
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1. I second, but it won't happen. Not yet. |
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Joe is the DLC candidate. And his, and their, mission is to prevent the progressive/populist Democrats from taking back the party. Thus, Joe has to stay in, at least through New Hampshire, if not South Carolina. The know their days, and their corporate whoring, are numbered. They're not going to throw in the towel so soon.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:28 AM
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:02 PM
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19. Gallup leans to the religious-right; I don't trust their #s. |
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And the margin of error they report is substantial, besides. N =397, even if carefully selected at random, is too small.
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:43 PM
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NAME RECOGNITION - ring a bell?
Meaningless.
Pull out LIEberman.
ABBOL (anyone but Bush or Lieberman.)
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:28 AM
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2. Half of them will be gone by January or so... |
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It's the way it always happens. However, I wouldn't count on Lieberman to drop out until Spring at least. On Super Tuesday, there will still be as many as five left.
With all of the Democratic Fervor and money earmarked to remove Bush, the candidates will have a lot of staying power.
None of them have gotten Really nasty yet. Patience.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:29 AM
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4. I don't like Lieberman |
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But with the news headlines this morning, I doubt he will be pulling out anytime soon.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:45 AM
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11. help catch me up - which headlines this a.m.? |
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Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:49 AM by cosmicdot
thanks
on edit - is it the New "Andrew Sullivan" Republic thing?
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:29 AM
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"It's pull-out time for a man of honor" That's some deep b.s.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:30 AM
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6. you're right! NONE of the Democratic candidates are honorable |
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WELL! Now we don't have to worry about denigratiing a particular candidate anymore :hi:
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Fri Sep-05-03 11:44 AM
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17. If he can only do harm to his party |
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as I said and believe, why is that bs?
I suppose HE doesn't believe it, or maybe doesn't care.
The poll numbers I've seen don't put him high. Dean, Kerry, the rest in single digits. But in L's case, as a former vice presidential candidate, the expectation for him is higher.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:35 AM
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last night on Dean, I agree. I was willing to deal with Lieberman because I feel all points of view are valid and I believe in strong debates of the issues--but after he attempted to sabotage Dean's campaign--which would be a great soundbite for Bushco in 2004---I want to see him withdraw his candidacy and keep his mouth shut.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:39 AM
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10. I want to win the lotto |
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But odds are I won't, and I bet odds are Lieberman will be in the race until at least March, he is just getting started.
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:36 AM
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but what does that mean for Braun, Kucinich and Sharpton?..they can't even see Lieberman from where they are
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Fri Sep-05-03 09:37 AM
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Joe's mother had said that to Joe's father at the right time...
now that was uncalled for :) but i just couldnt resist
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Fri Sep-05-03 10:13 AM
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12. Time? It's past time..... |
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Fri Sep-05-03 10:28 AM
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13. That's what his wife said |
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Fri Sep-05-03 10:43 AM
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14. Then you agree it's time for Graham, Kucinich, etc. to pull out |
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If you're really making a reasoned argument, and not simply trashing Lieberman like so many other DU'ers do reflexively, then surely you'd agree that Bob Graham, Dennis Kucinich, Carol Mosely Braun and Al Sharpton must pull out too. After all, none of these candidates have gotten any traction either, and they are far below Lieberman in the polls.
For that matter, both the Kerry and Gephardt campaigns have stalled. Indeed, Kerry has slipped badly in New Hampshire and Gephardt is faltering in Iowa.
So again, if this is about honor and not simply about Lieberman, then you'd agree that everyone except Dean and possibly Edwards (who is beginning to show traction in South Carolina) should pull out.
Or perhaps you believe that different rules apply to Lieberman. Is that it?
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Fri Sep-05-03 11:49 AM
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18. Of course different rules apply to Lieberman, |
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as a former VP candidate with name recognition, see above. Now, agreed, there are some other candidates on the list who don't seem to me to have much future, but I didn't notice them feeding lines to the Republicans about their rivals. Not yet, and when they do, I'll say something similar about them, too.
I don't think the others are harming the party, as of now. Lieberman is, IN MY OPINION, and my opinion is what I was expressing.
If you have a different opinion, fine. If so, explain to me why you think L's comments were NOT harmful to the party if anyone other than Lieberman is nominated.
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Fri Sep-05-03 10:45 AM
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15. Nahhh, the DLC wants him to trash Dean for a while longer |
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in hopes that Dean loses.
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Fri Sep-05-03 11:02 AM
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16. The same could be said of Kucinich, Braun, Edwards, Graham, and Sharpton |
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None of these candidates are gaining traction either. Let the serious candidates like Dean, Kerry, and Gephardt fight it out without the distractions of those who have no chance.
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:05 PM
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20. He may be wrong on many things |
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but he has the right to run until he deems it a losing proposition.Right now I believe he still feels he has a shot,and sadly,with the backing of the dumbass media he does.
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:12 PM
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21. Joe,make sure you enthusiatically support the nominee,or you're history |
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:21 PM
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22. I don't think he's going to run for reelection in 2006 |
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Since he just wants his seat as a launching pad, and it'll be clear after now that he won't ever be president.
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Fri Sep-05-03 12:58 PM
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Retyred IN FLA. “Good Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
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Fri Sep-05-03 01:03 PM
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25. Lieberman will pull out |
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when he is ready to pull out. He still has the freedom of speech last I checked, and he is free to run his campaign any way he wants. But since we are talking about a certain candidate pulling out in this thread, I will say that I think Sharpton, Moseley-Braun and Kucinich should all pull out. They're the 3 bottom-tier candidates and none of them have a real shot at the nomination.
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