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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:41 AM
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More People Out of Work - Unemployment Down!
"August nonfarm payrolls tumbled 93,000 compared with economists' expectations for a 19,000 increase. It was the seventh straight month of losses in nonfarm jobs and the biggest slide since March. The silver lining came from the unemployment rate, which fell to 6.1 percent last month from July's 6.2 percent."

http://biz.yahoo.com/cbsm-top/030905/479ffb6153a58c479e098c1ede92c10c_1.html

So the economy sheds five times more jobs than economists had expected it to gain and there's a silver lining? The only way the unemployment rate could have gone down by 0.1% is if more than 93,000 people gave up looking for work last month. Silver lining indeed.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:43 AM
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1. Gave up ...
try no more benefits. I'm fucked. I got about 2 months left or I lose EVERYTHING.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:57 AM
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4. Sorry to hear that, meegbear
I'm unemployed too, this is my second time, and I know many folks close to your situation.

Hang in there-can you ask friends or family for a loan?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:00 AM
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5. Worst case I could ...
I'll make it, just getting bad.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 10:08 AM
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6. I've got about a month left. I am not a happy camper.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:44 AM
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2. This number will be quietly revised upwards
Mark my words...
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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:49 AM
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3. In other news, the chocolate ration was increased today...
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 09:53 AM by unidentifiedbassplay
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 11:50 AM
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7. Dumbya's "recovering/basically strong/improving" economy cost me my house.
Screw him and his goddamned lies....This appointed thief costs people far more than a job, he costs them their way of life and their dignity..the day this smirking simian is thrown out of office can't come soon enough...

Are you better off than you were four years ago??
Hell no.

Screw you Bush...

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curtish Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:11 PM
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8. "More People Out of Work - Unemployment Down!"
"The only way the unemployment rate could have gone down by 0.1% is if more than 93,000 people gave up looking for work last month."

Of course, if Gore were president you guys would be here patting each other on the back about this "silver lining" because obviously more than 93,000 people would have found jobs, and Gore would have looked great in that flight suit. Right?

Look, you're mad about the last election, get over it already. I didn't vote for Bush either but I will next year because the democratic party has become a national hate club. I'm not rich and I live paycheck to paycheck but I am now a Republican because I can't stand democrats and their counterproductive attacks on our ELECTED representatives, and undemocratic methods of "getting their way"(dems in Texas running away, boy scouts a religious group etc.). Politics is about RUNNING the country, not just getting your party in power. Like it or not Bush is the ONLY President of The United States and what the dems have been doing for the last six months used to be called sedition. In my book it still is. It's amusing that you expect this board to have any impact when it's restricted to the converted preaching to each other. Who exactly do you expect to influence, or is this just a mutual admiration society?

I thought I might come here and have a little reasonable discussion with the neo-libs, but I guess not.

Regards

Curtis
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:19 PM
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10. Bwhahahaha, how pathetic
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 02:25 PM by Beetwasher
So I guess you criticized all the Clinton hate?

You don't have a single fact, ALL you have is hate. Too bad for you, your pet monkey is such a fuckup. So is it your claim that 93,000 jobs were actually created, that's why the UE rate went down? You obviously don't read very well, but that's par for the course for a fundamental nutjob:

Jobless Claims Unexpectedly Rose Last Week

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=808&e=2&u=/dowjones/200309040910000847

and...

August Jobs Miss Administration's Target; Web Site Monitors Performance of 2003 Tax Cuts in Generating Jobs, Says EPI

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/030905/180/562rf.html

WASHINGTON, Sept. 5 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Data released today by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that the Bush administration fell 437,000 jobs short in August, losing 93,000 jobs, instead of creating the 344,000 it had projected for each month after July 2003. The Economic Policy Institute is launching a new web site today, JobWatch.org, that monitors the performance of the 2003 tax cuts in generating jobs, and tracks job and wage trends.

--snip--

Read it and weep fool.


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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:22 PM
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11. But if Gore were President, You'd Blame Him
and Gore would take responsibility. The Republicans have full control of the Federal Gov't right now, yet none of them will take a bit of responsibility for anything that goes wrong.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:37 PM
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13.  "Politics is about RUNNING the country..."
Edited on Fri Sep-05-03 03:07 PM by JHB
..."not just getting your party in power."

We agree on that.

So what on Earth posesses you to support the Republicans? Thus far they've displayed all the flaws the Democrats ever had (usually doing them on a grander scale, to boot), but none of the redeeming features.

Incidently, in Texas what's undemocratic is what the Republicans are up to. Instead of waiting until the next census to redraw districts as per usual practice, the Republicans in the STATE Legislature are attempting to use their current majority to shut out democratic debate and discussion and redraw the districts mainly for the benefit of the NATIONAL Republican Party in Congress.

Given this extraordinary action by the Republicans, the Texas Dems are rightfully fighting fire with fire and are making extraordinary use of the Leg's rules of procedure to stop this.

In Congress, senators would use a fillibuster. Here, it's a denial of quorum.

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:52 PM
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17. A national hate club
Excuse me. You Republicans are too busy rejoicing in your hatred of muslims, gays, and minorities to notice that Bush is bending you over and screwing you hard.
He is also selling you out.

I am doubting we would have seen this kind of problem with Gore. Not only because I don't think he would have had us at war with anyone and everyone, but also because there would be no need for it. 9/11 was Bush's doing, and would not have happened under any president who respected the people of his country.

Go back to your pathetic little life and worship your "leader". But don't believe those "lies" about him being a cocaine using, alcoholic moron. Thats just the liberal media.

If you want to join the other sychophantic morons, go to www.freerepublic.com and discuss how great it is to be on the winning team (even though the only people truly winning are Bush and his millionare administration).
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:17 PM
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9. The economy is getting better
The economy has always been getting better.

Sound familiar? If not, please reference G. Orwell.
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acropolis Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:24 PM
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12. It should continue like that
as benefits run out, and there's still no jobs out there, people will quite looking for work. When people quit actively looking for workthey are no longer counted as "unemployed" in the official count. They do count people who aren't employed, and aren't actively looking for work specifically because they believe there are no jobs available. But they don't get counted as 'unemployed.'

If you look, that number is going up. Anyway, the unemployment rate is a lie. The only real thing to look at is the absolute number of wage jobs in the country, which is always going down.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:13 PM
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14. It is a recovery! Huzzah!
Our Great Leader is leading us to a shining future of wealth and prosperity! Bow down to his image!
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:28 PM
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15. May be because of
people giving up their summer jobs and going back to school. I don't know how that is measured.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:45 PM
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16. Hot snow falls up! woohoo!
I wonder how many people really are out of work?
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