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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:18 PM
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"It's our Party: we bought it, we own it, and we're going to take it back"
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 04:38 PM by EarlG
Email received from MoveOn PAC today:

Dear MoveOn member,

Who will lead the Democratic Party? The answer may come as soon as this weekend, when the state Democratic Party leaders gather to discuss who should chair the Democratic National Committee (DNC) for the next four years.(1) The election for chair is rarely competitive. But this year, with the race wide open, we have the chance to elect a leader who will reconnect the Democratic Party with its constituents -- us.

For years, the Party has been lead by elite Washington insiders who are closer to corporate lobbyists than they are to the Democratic base. But we can't afford four more years of leadership by a consulting class of professional election losers. In the last year, grassroots contributors like us gave more than $300 million to the Kerry campaign and the DNC, and proved that the Party doesn't need corporate cash to be competitive.(2) Now it's our Party: we bought it, we own it, and we're going to take it back.

We've made it easy to contact your state Party leaders and ask them support a chair who will represent all of us OUTSIDE of the Washington beltway and engage us in a fight for a bold Democratic vision. If we get enough signatures today, we'll deliver your comments to their meeting this weekend, so please click below NOW to make your voice heard:

http://www.moveonpac.org/dncchair

MoveOn includes Republicans, Greens, and independents. But all of us who are struggling for health care, clean air, decent jobs, and a sane foreign policy can agree on one thing: we're better off with a vibrant, populist Democratic Party that's strong enough to challenge the extreme-right Republican leadership.

Why haven't we had one? Under outgoing DNC chair Terry McAuliffe, the Party cozied up to many of the same corporate donors that fund the Republicans -- drug companies, HMO's, media conglomerates, big banks, polluting industries. The result was watered down, play-it-safe politics that kept the money flowing but alienated traditional Democrats as well as reform-minded independents in search of vision and integrity. And so the Party lost ground.

But in 2004, something incredible happened: hundreds of thousands of small contributors gave millions and millions of dollars and changed the way politics works forever. New we have an opportunity to birth a new Democratic Party -- a Party of the people that's funded by the people and that fights for the people. Tell your state Party leaders that you want a DNC chair who will use this new grassroots energy to catapult us to victory at:

http://www.moveonpac.org/dncchair

The Democratic National Committee is the national backbone of the Democratic Party, and it matters who ends up as the new chair. With Democrats out of power in Washington, the new chair will play an unprecedented role as the voice of the Party. And no one will be in a better position to orchestrate a Democratic revival.

The state Party leaders -- who play a pivotal role within the DNC -- understand the importance of the DNC Chair. They have helped to make the election process more transparent, by inviting candidates for Chair to a public forum at their meeting. And for the first time, they are considering endorsing a candidate en masse. If they vote as a bloc, they could determine the next Chair. They represent all of us who knocked on doors, who gave money, who made phone calls -- and it's time for us to weigh in.

The movement for change that we built during the last election is still gathering strength. We need leadership that will break the chains of corporate funding so we can fight -- really fight -- for a better America.

Thank you for all that you do,

--Eli Pariser, Justin Ruben, and the whole MoveOn PAC team
December 9, 2004
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:21 PM
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1. sent my recommendation this morning
so, who ya think they have in mind????
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 08:04 AM
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26. Done nt
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:23 PM
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2. u might want to edit those links
they bring up your personal name when clicked.

this one is more generic: http://www.moveonpac.org/dncchair/index.html
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 04:38 PM
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3. Done
thanks.
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MadMichDem Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:55 PM
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4. I just got this email from Campaign for America's Future
It's about a debate with the DLC tomorrow on C-Span:

We just learned that tomorrow morning -- Friday, December 10th at 10am EST -- C-SPAN will air a live debate between Campaign for America’s Future and the Democratic Leadership Council on the future of the Democratic party.

Tune in and watch Campaign for America’s Future’s own Robert Borosage debate the Democratic Leadership Council’s Al From on the choices the Democratic Party now faces for its future direction. The program will be shown live from the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

http://www.cspan.org

Borosage argues that Bush's radical agenda is out of step with the American people and that Democrats will unite in opposition to that agenda. He believes the Democratic Party will succeed when it truly champions a progressive agenda that addresses the problems of working families. From and the Democratic Leadership Council represent the corporate wing of the Party and have urged Democrats to push away from their progressive base.

The debate will tell you a lot about why redoubling our focus on “kitchen table” issues will appeal to the Democratic base and the American public at large. And why “kitchen table” issues will be the winning ticket for the future of the Democratic Party.

I hope you’ll tune in.

http://www.cspan.org

Sincerely,


Roger Hickey, Co-Director
Campaign for America's Future

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:29 PM
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5. I'm not familiar with Campaign for America's Future. Can you give
me a few more details about who exactly these guys are?

It sounds very interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.
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MadMichDem Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:07 PM
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6. Here's their website
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 11:11 PM by MadMichDem
I signed up for so many email updates from so many organizations, I can't keep them all straight! :silly:

edit to fix link:

www.ourfuture.org/

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Sleepless In NY Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:09 PM
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7. kick
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:43 PM
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32. Ed Schultz (lDemocratic but centrist radio host) was
critical of MoveOn for sending that letter, and complained that MoveOn didn't name names.

To me, the line about professional election losers was a reference to Bob Shrum.




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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:00 PM
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33. He was pissed!
I posted something about that too, later in this thread. But his buddy, Vern, seemed to find the situation inevitable. I do too.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:07 PM
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36. He is Rushlite IMHO. turned him off after that bit.
I have wondered about his true stand. I always felt he was Rushlite, which is why he has to defend the DLC assholes.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:54 AM
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39. I've wondered about him too........
sounds waaayyyy too much like Rush, heard he looks like him too. Too chummy chummy with the Senators. Calls them by their first name which I think is rude. He wants a TV gig and makes no bones about it. I heard him say before that he was a repuke.....last year (kidding about time frame). Today bragging about how much he gave to campaigns. I hope I'm wrong but I think he is an opportunist. He saw the need for a liberal on the airwaves and he became that man. His defense of the DLC today sealed it for me.
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mikh Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 05:40 AM
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14. Progression...
I love/despise this term "progressive".
I know it means so much to you, but can't you try to wean yourself off it?
It's so elitist and becoming risible.
Was John Kerry more progressive than Ralph Nader? Or vice versa?
Believe it or not I'm a true liberal - (from a different planet than yours of course) and am totally intrigued/baffled/confused by the election.
Gut feeling tells me that plain speaking is needed - and labels like progressive - particularly when applied to hobbits like Michael Moore, are destructive and lose votes.
Progressive?
Progressive/progressing? Towards what?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:03 AM
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15. Welcome to DU
Michael Moore is a Hobbit? I thought you didn't like labels?

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mikh Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:20 AM
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16. Labelling hobbits...
yeah, you're right...labels are awkward and can be ugly.
Mr Moore (and I really have a thing about his style of communication - and how little it achieved) may be a Progressive Hobbit. A cut above the rest perhaps....
But nevertheless Progressive...
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:32 AM
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19. I totally agree about labels
... though I have been calling the Bush cabal "alien lizards/cannibals" for a long while. What's good for the goose...




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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 08:49 AM
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27. Well excuuuuuuse me
You say "progressive" is elitist and then use a fancy-pants word like "risible" in the same sentence?

Sounds like yew done got a whol' lot ah book learnin' thar yerself, college boy!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:25 PM
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8. They just heard from two of us....
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:39 PM
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9. Done.
Think they'll listen to us?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:04 AM
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10. Um, I think grassroots DID fund this party & DID fight for the people
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:53 AM
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20. Yeah, but not very successfully . . .
I also let my grassroots be shaken for spare change. Was happy to do it and would do it again.

However, I also gave to MoveOn and a couple of other 527s. My objective: get rid of Bush.

I've been a Democrat since I could vote, but McAuliffe is, as MoveOn pointed out, a professional loser who owes his soul to the same people who buy and sell Republicans like penny candy. And, he's not good enough at what he was selected to do, or we would have had little trouble evicting the worst president in living memory from the White House.

While I was never a Deaniac, I couldn't miss the excitement he brought to the party -- when things were seemingly moribund -- and how he pushed Kerry toward what I consider "Democratic values" and away from the useless "Republican lite" path he seemed to be taking. Frankly, I think the Dean influence is what nearly won this for Kerry (by "win," of course, I mean a sufficient majority edge to prevent the vote fraud that handed the election -- again -- to the crook of Crawford).

I also have seen a maturation and deepening of the Dean message since he lost out to Kerry, and would love to have him for Chairman.

Whether he runs in 2008 or not.
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amelia Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:32 AM
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11. Signed the petition
I signed the petition and sent a very lengthy comment.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:52 AM
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12. kick
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 03:46 AM
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13. Signed today...
Just happened to drop the name of a good doctor who might be able to help them fix things.
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:23 AM
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17. I signed the petition yesterday
and sent a comment. Anyone who isn't familiar with what the DLC stands for should be sure to watch the above-noted program on C-Span at 10:00 a.m. EST today.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:31 AM
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18. My comments via MoveOn
I would like to see Howard Dean be the DNC chair.
We also need to let the DLC know that the anti-war folks and Michael Moore are part of our base.

I think Democrats need to reframe our language and develop alternative media resources.

As the GOP is so fond of saying 9-11 DID change everything, but the current administration is wrong about what to do about it. The US cannot wage unnecessary wars, give tax cuts, defend our borders, and guard our ports. We also have to provide healthcare, education and other social safety nets for our citizens, but it seems like this administration is determined to ruin all those programs. Democrats need to stand up and fight and a leader of the DNC needs to be someone like Howard Dean. We cannot attract new voters by being Republican lite, we need to build a Democratic Party by running in all 50 states for every position from dogcatcher up to Congress and rebuild our party. Please vote for Howard Dean for chair.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:14 AM
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21. My note to the leaders
I have been a Democrat my entire life. I have voted straight Democratic tickets in every election since my 18th birthday. for more than two decades I have been a Democratic Activist. This past election I donated over $1000 to Democratic candidates and the DNC.

I am sick of a party elite choosing the way of loosing. I want to see Howard Dean become the DNC chair. No other person is as well equipped to lead this party to victory after voctory. I am watching the DNC chair race closely as the outcome of that race will determine my political future. If I see the party take the path of the DLC, I will be forced to leave the party for a third party that better represents my interests.

Thank you.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:17 AM
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22. Great comment!!
They have to know there will be consequences if they go the DLC path!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:44 AM
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23. I told them to quit doing lip service to the grassroots and
reminded them that they are nothing without our votes.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:51 AM
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24. Yep, time to take it back,
Time to articulate a true vision for the party that will empower the grass roots. Howard dean might in fact be the person to lead the party in that direction. DFA did have success in helipng progressive candidates win many local races. For one, I prefer that approach than the DLC concept of sucking up to corporate lobbyists for money.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 08:03 AM
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25. Thanks for passing this on to us--
I told them that since they don't mind using our money why not do something really radical and choose someone for the DNC Chair who will represent us for a change?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 12:42 PM
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28. I told them
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 12:48 PM by xxqqqzme
my energy, skills & money were all going green if they didn't get back to representing the base. I'm not working that hard again if all the DNC/DLC R interested in is kissing RW ass and losing elections.

edit - add: just received this from the DNC - Interesting how it reinforces MoveOn's email - we DID buy it, we DO own it!

"...Two months from now, the members of the Democratic National Committee will elect a new party chairman. And we welcome the spirited discussion among candidates, activists, and progressive organizations on the direction and future of the Democratic Party.

Under Chairman Terry McAuliffe's leadership, the DNC has spent the past four years making the power of grassroots activism a top priority. Thanks to those efforts, the Democratic Party is stronger than it has ever been before.

In 2000, the DNC only raised $35 million in small donations. Most of our resources -- over $150 million -- came in large donations. But in 2004, there was a remarkable turnaround. This year, the vast majority of our funding -- over $248 million -- came from average Americans donating what they could, while large donations actually went down to just $105 million -- less than a third of our total.
In the past four years, the DNC expanded its small donor base seven fold, from 400,000 in 2000 to 2.7 million in 2004.
The DNC invested $80 million in grassroots field organizing in 2004 -- 166 percent over 2000.
The DNC fielded more than 2000 organizers in battleground states, and conducted 530 organizing conventions across the country, training nearly 80,000 attendees.
We also mobilized 233,000 volunteers, knocking on 11 million doors, and making 38 million volunteer phone calls.
These remarkable accomplishments could not have been achieved without your tireless dedication to our party and to the enacting the strategic plans we put in place over the past four years.

One thing is certain: The gains of the past cannot be reversed. The power of the grassroots will not put back in the bottle. And the future of the Democratic Party looks stronger than ever. We all need to pull together and work together.

We want your opinion on our party's future. Use this link to give us your ideas.

http://www.democrats.org/feedback

The DNC Internet Team,
Doug, Jesse, Nancy, Morra, and Eric
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 01:06 PM
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29. I think Skinner should chair the DNC.
:)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 02:33 PM
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30. Great message. Thank you. Signed the petition with the
following note: "We've had enough of the DLC corporate whores. We are not the Republicans, nor do we want to be. Howard Dean speaks for grass root democrats. Time to start paying attention."
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:29 PM
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31. The party regulars and the talking heads were all over this today.
Ed Schultz on Air American Radio was almost apoplectic. There was a guy named Vern who commented on this, saying that our culture is changing. Vern had a much better grip on what is really going on, I think.

The root of this goes back to when the fundies took over the Republican party, IMO. The Dems, by necessity, will have to adjust, because a lot of people left the Republican party and became independents, Greens, libertarians, and democrats. I'd be willing to bet that what the Dem party is going through now has something to do with that.

And the DLC leaders are still thinking in the same terms they were 20 years ago. They're behind; they've never made the adjustment.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:06 PM
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34. kick, I made my suggestion and brief comment. n/t
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:44 PM
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35. done
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:46 PM by Cheswick2.0
I told them that no DLC friendly candidate was acceptable and neither was any candidate who was supportive of a particular candidate over others.
I told them I had heard From speak on C-span this morning and that I was totally disgusted with his right wing rhetoric.

I also said I wanted Dean and if he decided not to run, I wanted anyone he recommended.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 11:43 PM
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37. done and kicked....
Two words: Howard Dean.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 12:41 AM
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38. cool
:thumbsup:
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