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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 08:59 PM
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You go to war with the army you have..... or
you go to war with the army YOU NEED. "Or, you don't go to war just because you want to... just because "But there aren't any good targets in Afghanistan, there are lots of good targets in Iraq".... or because you can... or because you want to show everyone how cheaply you can invade and occupy a sovereign nation.

You go to war only if you must... and Mr. Secretary... you didn't have a reason to do what you have done. For 20 or 30 years Iraq may have had a mere fraction of the biological and chemical weapons we posess... and not once did they ever fall into the wrong hands.

The only thing that fell into the wrong hands were corrupt visas that we approved, flight training of questionable entities some of it at OUR OWN MILITARY BASES, box cutters, and plain tickets. (plain intended)

It's time to tell all the people who protested your latest adventure the world round how sorry you are for all that has happened in the last two years... and definitely admit to the incredibly poor planning that was involved in making it happen.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:06 PM
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1. Well said.
I think that first statement was one of the most outrageous things I have ever heard. As if we had to rush in before Iraq destroyed us, AS IF! As if we ever had a good reason, AS IF! As if we did not have time or couldn't make time to improve the army we had before going in for no good reason, AS IF! The gall of this man, these men, is stunning.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:31 PM
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2. ...but only as a last resort."
They forgot the important part.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 09:42 PM
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3. Rumsfield is a dickhead
He told them that they had to go to war without armor, because they didn't have armor. He didn't explain why in the hell we can't get any armor. Is steel too expensive?
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:30 PM
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5. Halliburton doesn't make the armor
is the most likely case
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:34 PM
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6. the contractors for the armor
can make more, but they haven't been asked to by the junta. On ABC news they said the factory is not working at capacity.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:41 AM
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12. Real reason,couldn't get Hummer's equipped fast enough...
It might have taken six months or more. Bush sure as hell couldn't let inspectors wander around Iraq for another six months finding NOTHING. So what the hell...send guys to their death in unarmored vehicles so Bush could have his invasion quickly.

This is insane,War criminal stuff...
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 11:27 PM
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4. Our Army
bring back the draft,I bet we will get all the amour we need when those little rich kids asses are in harms way.WAKE UP AMERICA.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:23 AM
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7. Armour, armoured humvees... what kind of kids drive armoured humvees....
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:29 AM
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8. The army we have..... It's all clinton's fault...
Curse you Bill Clinton for saddling he Bush administration with a defensive army, a budget surplus, falling paverty levels, falling crime, fewer abortions.....

Good god, what a mess that Slick Willie left us.....
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:52 AM
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9. Arschfik Rumsfeld
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:20 AM
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10. War Criminals
Not only have these people in power over us committed War Crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan and Gitmo but they are guilty of Criminal Negligence against the troops of the U.S.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:38 AM
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11. Next War why don't the "you's" just stay home??
Rumsfeld,Bush and Cheney can man the battlefield.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 09:03 AM
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13. You don't go to war til you HAVE an army
big enough to handle that war.

The death and destruction * has caused and is causing proves the point better than anything any of us could say.

Everyday, I curse those responsible and I hope each and every one is haunted by the ghostly screams of the dead and dying and that they each burn in hell ( if Iraq isn't rally hell)
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