Los Angeles, California was the last city to burn from race riots!

[socalover]

After the Rodney King trial.

Please remember that the next time you think of bashing the south.

No, I am no Southern lover, I have lived in California and loved it but it's just too expensive, can't afford a home! The fact is California could be just as racist. I remember going door to door in my neighborhood in the Bay Area and not one neighbor opened their door to me and they were home. I felt like crap.

[vpigrad]

1. Why would you bash the people in CA...

for fighting back?

> The fact is California could be just as racist.

Have you ever been to the south? I live in GA now, and half the damn town won't talk to me because my best friend is black.

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[mark414]

5. "thugs"

the 21st century word for nigger

[Jack_DeLeon]

6. I'm sorry...

would you prefer I use any of the following....

criminals
desperados
gangsters
robbers
toughs

http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?r=2&q=thug

:eyes:

[DrWeird]

14. You could have, but you picked thugs.

I wonder how you feel about the LAPD.

[Jack_DeLeon]

20. I'm sure...

that plenty of them are assholes too.

Alot of times criminals and cops are just two sides of the same coin.

[Zynx]

9. I can safely call most of the LA rioters thugs, criminals, etc.

Just because they happened to be black doesn't excuse killing people, burning stores, stealing electronics, smashing truck drivers with bricks, etc. Most of that has very little if anything to do with "social justice"

The Onion had a nice comment on rioting: "Rioters demand redress for social grievences, big screen TV's."

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

27. Gosh...thugs...hispanics had the right idea? Wonder what color you are

NOT

Frankly I regard your post as being entirely racist...no the people that burned their own town down may not have all been smart to do so...but I imagine when one perceives no justice and that kind of despair over what was the absolute WORST jury verdict ever they might just snap.

[tx_dem41]

29. One could also regard your post as "entirely racist."

Why do you give African-Americans so little credit as to not be able to express their despair in a way that was not destructive and violent?

Hmmmm...I wonder.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. I think you are making that up...where do I say they had no other recourse

for the record, the day after those riots I was up in LA with a group led by Edward James Olmos helping to clean up those neighborhoods and working with the people in those communities...the feelings of despair were palpable..as were the feelings and sense of community the people in those areas displayed while we all shoveled shit up.

[noiretextatique]

36. destructive and violent expressions of...hmmm, not despair

violent: the action of the (mostly) white cops caught on tape beating king.
destructive: jury nullification, the of "traditional" kind that produced the not guilty verdict in the case. when will white people stop being violent and destructive? well...at least it's not all of them, some i also give some white people credit.
it should be also noted that some african-americans were not violent or destructive, in the midst of the *cycle* of violence and destruction that reached another peak that day. reginald denny wouldn't have survived without the help of who helped him that day.

[troubleinwinter]

3. The point of the post is?

[Jack_DeLeon]

4. probably....

quit bitching about how racist the South is becauses there are racial problems everywhere in the US.

[bvar22]

7. Pop Quiz!!!!

Which US city holds the record for the MOST Back Men Lynched in a Single Day?

[QC]

11. Are you thinking of the New York City Draft Riots of 1863? n/t

[tx_dem41]

18. Tulsa n/t

[bvar22]

24. The winner is New York City!

New York City hold the record for the Most Black Men lynched in a Single Day.
The total number varies from about 35 to over 200 (maybe more),
but no other American city comes close to this outburst of bigotry and hatred.

Additionally, New Yorkers burned to the ground a Black Church and a Black Orphanage.

See New York City Draft Riots, 1863.


On Edit: The New York Lynch Mobs were blaming the Black People for causing the Civil War.

[tx_dem41]

25. Tulsa Race Riot of 1921 might be worse...(300-3,000 deaths possibly)

Its a tragic event that too few many people know about.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9908/03/tulsa.riots.probe/

[bvar22]

32. I am not aware of this.

I will check it out. It has been kept quiet. It appears that there has been an almost successful attempt to edit this incident out of American History.

The definition of lynching is: the public hanging of a defenseless subdued person by an overwhelming number of people outside the jurisdiction of the law.

[bemildred]

8. I live in LA, and I was born here.

And I agree, it's a very racist city and always has been.
As bad or worse than anything I saw in Virgina. The LAPD is one
of the most violent and corrupt police forces in America.
(I'm also lily white.)

[Zynx]

10. LA is seperate cities, not one city

Downtown and everything NW of the 110-10 intersection has about as much in common with Compton and the barrio sections as they do with Islamabad, Pakistan.

[bemildred]

21. What part of I was born and raised here don't you get?

I know the whole place like the back of my hand.

[Cheswick2.0]

12. If those riots had happened in Alabama

There would have been a thousand dead black people. Some of them would have been hanging from trees.

[bemildred]

22. Maybe. The main difference I observed between Virginia

and LA was that the racism is much more overt in the South, racists
speak their mind there. In LA the racism is obfuscated and denied,
but you still have the ghettos and the racist cops and the fake
schools and the economic oppression. LA is also very multi-cultural,
one of the things I like about it, so the the racism is not just
about blacks, it's also about Latinos and people from all over the
World, we have Armenian gangs, Korean gangs, any kind of gangs you
could think of practically.

[K-W]

13. What horrid logic.

What does L.A.'s racial problems have to do with the south?

I dont think anyone ever claimed that there were no race issues elsewhere.

[Johonny]

15. Wrong

2001 Cincinnati race riots was post King. Thanks for playing though. You'll get a lousy version of the home game.

[Columbia]

16. Cincinnati was a tea party compared to LA

[Johonny]

23. did say it wasn't

but it was a race riot.

[tx_dem41]

17. Well, LA is in SOUTHern California.

;-)

[devilgrrl]

19. ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz.....

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[FredScuttle]

26. Question

Why were you going door to door? Was it in San Francisco?

IMO, San Franciscans have been among the most friendly, open people I've ever met in a city of it's size. It's a pleasure to live here.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

28. Um.the Rodney King riots happened as a result of a racist jury in a Repub

district....SOOOOOO...if anything since there is a HUGE portion of the south that votes Republican..you just reaffirmed their racism in an attempt to pretend it didn't exist

[tx_dem41]

31. See my post #29.

I give African Americans more credit.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

34. I saw your post 29..no where did I discredit them

For the record, the people who did get caught were convicted by mostly black juries..I give them plenty of credit too.

[tx_dem41]

38. Agreed. n/t

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

35. I saw your post 29..no where did I discredit them

For the record, the people who did get caught were convicted by mostly black juries..I give them plenty of credit too.

[noiretextatique]

37. right...how much credit should i give that jury

and the cops?

[tx_dem41]

39. No matter how unjust and vile the first wrong is....

a second wrong in response is not right. Its that simple. Gandhi followed that principle and brought down an empire. MLK followed that principle and changed federal law, making it possible for hundreds of thousands to vote and have a voice.

[bvar22]

30. The point is:

that racism (a subset of bigotry) is a human Condition NOT a Geographical Location. It is caused by ignorance, poverty, and Arrested Social and Spiritual Development. These conditions exist throughout our country, and are not limited by geographical constraints.


Catch 22: Does anyone else see the intrinsic paradox of one group pointing at another group and screaming, "I can't stand them because they are bigots!!!"



Some of the answers to bigotry can be found in the following. I am not a religious person, but I find the following enlightening. It is an adapted version of the Prayer to St. Francis. It was adapted to edit out the presence of a Paternalistic Deity, and takes the form of a daily promise to one's self.

Where there is hatred, I will bring Love,
Where there is wrong, I will bring the spirit of Forgiveness,
Where there is discord, I will bring Harmony,
Where there is error, I will bring Truth,
Where there is despair, I will bring Hope,
Where there are shadows, I will bring Light,
Where there is sadness, I will bring Joy.

I will
Seek to comfort, rather than to be comforted,
Seek to understand, rather than be understood,
Seek to love, rather than to be loved.

For it is by forgetting myself, that I may find myself.
It is by forgiving, that I will find forgiveness.
It is by dying that I will awaken to Life.

[JanMichael]

40. Actually St. Pete, Fl. had a pretty big race riot in 1996.

Sure, it didn't get the big press, but it was pretty big.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/25/st.pete.riot/