the biggest splotches of red were in middle america, not 'the south'.

[UpsideDownFlag]

edit, since my first map didnt work- see how lots of the south is 'purple'? that means a MIX of repubs and dems.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. bad link?

[UpsideDownFlag]

2. yeah, it wont work. trying to fiz it. nt

[UpsideDownFlag]

3. fixed now. nt

[Ron Green]

4. Not enough people of color in those sparsely-settled states to add much

blue.

[tx_dem41]

9. Be careful with the implication of your statement....

Some would see it as a conservative meme....blacks' votes don't count.

[Ron Green]

12. I don't see how you could get a conservative meme out of the fact that

a sparsely-populated state is more easily voted "red" by known RW voters than is a more densely-populated one in which live many voters of color, more likely to vote "blue."

[tx_dem41]

13. I don't necessarily get that meme from your post, unless

you are somehow justifying why mid-Western states are more Red vis-a-vis the demographic makeup of the voting population.

[Ron Green]

14. I think it's more the Western states, rather than Mid-Western....

Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming.... very sparsely settled. Doesn't take many of the brainwashed to vote them red. Voting Ohio red took lots more; I think the difference is that lots of minorities voted blue in the Midwest.

[tx_dem41]

15. I knew when I typed "Mid-Western" you would trip me up on that.

:-)

How about "non-Southern"?

[Deja Q]

5. If that map was a person, I'd say he's got one hell of a venereal disease.

:wow:

Purple and red lumps... yuck.

[DemBones DemBones]

6. I believe it. Among the people I socialize with in Georgia,

the hard-core Bush** supporters are people who moved here from Iowa, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, the UK. I know only one or two Bush** voters who are from Georgia and I know one voted for Gore in 2000; 9/11 has her supporting W now.

The Democrats in my social circle are originally from Maryland, Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and Virginia. Only one comes from outside the South, from upstate New York.

[UpsideDownFlag]

7. interesting how idaho and nebraska are the most red.

they're far, far away from the south.

[Ron Green]

16. I think they're the most red because they're the most white....

Many working- and middle-class whites in this country have bought the RW bill of goods that the current administration will somehow keep them safe. I believe that most people of color don't buy that lie. Therefore, when you have a dearth of minorities, such as in Idaho and Nebraska, the lie gets voted for.

[DemBones DemBones]

22. There's no dearth of minorities in Georgia

and, as I explain above, many of the Republican voters here are NOT Southerners.

To give another example, both Bob Barr and Newt Gingrich came to power largely through voters living in Cobb County, an area just outside Atlanta that is heavily populated by white Republicans who moved here from the Midwest or Northeast. Neither Barr nor Gingrich is a Southerner, either.

[Ron Green]

24. Exactly. I think lots of the whites who moved to the South did so for

some of the same reasons they moved to the West. Maybe they wanted to escape those pesky labor unions, uppity blacks, and creeping integration.

[Gemini Cat]

8. Considering the last time Indiana went blue was in '64

I'd agree with you.

[tx_dem41]

10. What this country really needs is a GREAT dermatologist! n/t

[Tighthead Prop]

11. I agree

What it also needs is a new perspective on almost every social and international issue you can think of:-(

[Cuban_Liberal]

17. Not many people live in the middle of 2000-acre farms/ranches, etc. ...

Could be the reason there's such a large amount of red.

:shrug:

[SaintLouisBlues]

18. Many Blacks live in the rural South

Most other rural areas are lily white.

[idiosyncratic]

19. Because of the Electoral College, some "blue voters" don't vote.

If you are a Democrat in sparsely-populated Wyoming, Utah, or Idaho, unless there is a very pressing local issue, what's the point of even voting?

My sister lives in Blaine County, Idaho, and they tried.

[Sleepless In NY]

20. When is this going to stop?

I'm tired of looking at Maps, especially this one. Time for a reality check...they are called "Red States" because the MAJORITY of people who lived there voted for bush. There is just no way around it.

I don't like that fact, but it's a fact, just the same. Isn't it time to accept it and move on? This party needs some fresh ideas and fresh faces, not more maps.

[idiosyncratic]

26. My "fresh idea" is to get rid of the Electoral College so ALL

individual votes actually count. Like the other poster points out, if you are a Democrat in a predominantly Republican state, what is the point of voting?

I live in a rural area and only recently have they allowed Absentee Ballots for those of us who don't want to drive a long distance to our polling place.

If you are a Democrat in a rural Republican state and can't vote absentee, would you go to the trouble of driving to a distant polling place, especially with today's gas prices, knowing your vote won't really be counted?

[Qanisqineq]

25. You are so right!

My family lives in and I grew up in ND and many of my family and most of my friends there (all Dems) have NEVER voted.

[Freddie Stubbs]

21. Those very red states are rather small population wise

A state like NC has as many electoral votes as Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, and North Dakota combined.

[hfojvt]

23. Idaho and Utah are mormon country

and mormons are very economically and socially conservative. Also ironic that their political allies - fundamentalist Protestants regard them as a cult.