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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:17 PM
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The Republican Calller on Randi Rhodes
In the last few minutes of the Randi Rhodes show a Republican called and said Democrats were just angry that people do not except our extreme views. He claimed that Democrats were do as I say and not as I do type people. One of the examples he gave was Ariannia Huffington pushing people to conserve gas and flying around in a jet. First this guy needs to get a grasp on the idea of do as I say not as I do. Ariannia pushes people to drive cars that use less gas and to move away from big gas guzzling SUVs. Ariannia actually drives a Toyota Prius. Therefore, even if Arianna has a private jet (I do not know that she does) the do as I say not as I do claim does not apply to her in that even if she took a regular plane to her destination large amounts of gas would be used.

As far as his claim that Kennedy and other wealthy liberal did not want windmills in their community. There are a lot of Republican that would not like landfills in their community. In addition, many Republican Congressman objected to nuclear waste in their communities. In addition, there many other examples of Republican hypocrisy.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:18 PM
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1. What did Sister Randi say?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:20 PM
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3. That's what I'm sayin...I hope she tore him up. n/t
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:25 PM
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6. she said "first of all you are coming to me with a weak argument"
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:57 PM by proud patriot
and went on to discuss our Troops lack of
proper equipment etc...JUST BLASTED HIM :evilgrin:
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:50 PM
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14. She Blew Him Away
Sort of put up or shut up! There is nothing extreme in this!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:20 PM
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2. 'there are many other examples of Republican hypocrisy'
but no finer example of understatement!
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:23 PM
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4. Hypocrisy -- Repukes are the biggest NIMBYs ever!
They don't want anyone or anything getting in the way of them grabbing all the gusto they can. The rest of the world be damned.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:25 PM
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5. Arianna is an independant and was Repub before that
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:35 PM
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7. I think this is something where Lakoff would say, why are we even...
...responding to this guy's arguments?

Liberalism and being a progressive is about way way more than Arianna and Ted Kennedy's personal habits and feelings and desires and choices.

Is this guy fine with gas guzzling cars? Does he really think we should be consuming as much gas as possible when we could be doing so much more? Aren't the issues much bigger than what Arianna does to get from point A to point B?

I don't get his point about Kennedy at all. There are plenty of democrats and republicans on both sides of that issue, but does this mean one should be against windmills?

Being a liberal isn't about being in lockstep with anyone on any issues, and certainly isn't about tilting at Ted Kennedy about windmills.

I mean, isn't that something that Republicans value: everyone must think exactly the same way on every issue?

Being a liberal is about the devolution of political, economic and cultural power so that Ted Kennedy as a citizen has a right to express his opinon and so that nobody with less money than Ted has to have his opinion imposed on him or her unless we democratically agree that Ted is right.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:48 PM
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13. We Have To
I think what you said was great. However, we have to respond to people like this and their arguments in that if we do not people on the right will use those small arguments to pursuade people to vote for the Republican party. I know that this guy most likely got this from one of the right wing talk show host because Al Franken discussed the issue of the Windmills a few months ago. So we respond to these arguments in that we must.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:36 PM
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8. I'll take their windmills!
"did not want windmills in their community"?

We have over a hundred of them virtually next-door. I think up close they're awe-inspiring, from a distance I find they even have a certain beauty to them, and every time I see them churning away and I think about what they're doing for us without having to worry about what they're doing to us it brings a smile. :)
I'll take every windmill anyone else wants to get rid of.
Here's a picture of our neighbors...

http://www.trentmesa.com/
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:37 PM
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9. my stream cut out before this person came on
so I did not hear it.

I just want to say that RAndi Rhodes is the best. She has been a beacon of light in the storm. She has been adamant in her protection of American democracy, and, I believe, does not seek personal fame. She said today that she does not care if she gets thrown off for articulating her views on the voter counting. She said, also, that she has received threats. She also related the encounter she and her staff had with Franken and his self promoting bravado in

the elevator they must take to get to and from their studio on the 41st floor, where, as soon as a new person came onboard at any one stop,which apparently was at every floor,Franken would repeat where he was going and all his connections to the "rich and famous" people he knows, calling them by first name such as "Arianna" and this same rhetoric was repeated at each stop in order to impress the newly boarded persons on the elevator with his connections to the famous. At the twenty eight floor however this self promotion stopped because the elevator no longer stopped at every floor to pick up passengers.

I really like Randis unflailing committment. She is a good and decent person, imo.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:38 PM
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10. This caller illustrates how the republican party has manipulated
its followers into believing that a single example of an action or statement by one individual (whether true or not) defines the entire democratic party. The GOP has used this tactic for over twenty years and has perfected it. All republican candidates and political pundits are trained in this pactice and they follow it exrtremely well. The democrats on the other hand will criticize an individual republican for something but rarely, if ever, connect it to the entire republican party. This is admirable, moral, and ethical, but it is a losing strategy in national politics today.
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:39 PM
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11. I'm glad you brought up windmills (taking just a little leeway here}
In all the talk about clean, cheap, and efficient energy sources it is often overlooked - but not by the repugs. They've cut government spending for these programs every year since 2000.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:43 PM
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12. hypocrisy
Hmm most people I know have some type of hypocrisy in their views. It's foolish to assume hypocrisy exists only in the enemy and not with your friends. Since it's easier to come to terms with ones friends hypocrisy the caller should be directed to one of the 1000000000 conservative talk shows on radio to discus Republican hypocrisy. Saying democrats might have some hypocritic views is like pointing out that there might be water in the ocean. Thanks for the warning.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:54 PM
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15. Not too many repugs call her show!! Too chicken
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:54 PM by ailsagirl
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