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Pluvious Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 03:28 AM
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Into the Twilight Zone of Freeper Logic
Anti-abortion, but pro-death penalty.

Freedom to put the 10 Commandments up at the courthouse,
but forbidden to have a protest march in the city park.

Calling yourself a "good steward of the land," but wiping out
the last 30 years of environmental protection laws in favor of commercial interests.

Worrying about teaching abstinence to prevent aids, but ignoring
healthcare needs and poverty.

Promoting tax breaks for the rich to trickle down into new job creation,
while encouraging job outsourcing.

Claiming compassion and conservatism while forbidding any media coverage of our
returning dead heroes' remains, while simultaneously bankrupting our country
into twenty plus years of debt.

The mind boggles at how the sheeple lap it up, and defend it all with such fervor.

The rest of the world thinks we've all gone completely fucking insane.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:30 AM
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1. Explain why it's more logical to oppose the death penalty and

support abortion. The death penalty kills convicted murderers, who may be construed to deserve death, abortion kills innocent babies, who can't. Personally, I don't find either one worthy of support.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:14 AM
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2. I admire your consistency
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 05:19 AM by Spinzonner
but what's a 'baby' ?

BTW, to make a fine point: Murders may deserve death under a particular set of moral principles but a 'convicted murderer' being a de'jure murder is not the same as a de facto one and that raises the question as to whether the state should be empowered to take a life in the face of the non-equivalency.

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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 02:23 PM
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4. Thank you. My comments re: the logic

behind putting convicted murderers to death don't reflect my opinion, but that of those who support the death penalty while opposing abortion. Maybe that was unclear in the way I said it? You're certainly correct that a convicted murderer may not be an actual murderer, which is one of the good reasons to oppose the death penalty. Another reason, of course, is a belief that taking a life is wrong. A baby in this context is an unborn human being. Once conception occurs, an unborn human being exists.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 04:47 PM
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6. Pardon me but ...
Edited on Sat Dec-11-04 04:48 PM by Spinzonner
What's a 'human being' ?

And please also define your other term: conception

And does your application require that all - each and every - 'unborn human being' be protected from external intervention in the gestation process ?
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 05:18 AM
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3. where would you like me to start
niether of them being logical but what is logicical about flaming a new poster who has something to say.
This debate is a debate judged in ourselves going way past quantum semantics.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-04 02:26 PM
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5. I did not flame the new poster, I expressed an opinion

that disagreed with one thing (s)he said in a rather lengthy post. This is a political discussion board, a place for debating positions on issues.
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