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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:37 PM
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Buy LOCAL, buy AMERICAN
because it is the PATRIOTIC thing to do.

When you go into ANY store where you need a product... demand american made, they don't nmake it, walk out... and make it loud

YOU WILL NOT buy cheap imported goods.

We need to start doing this, if you are going to have to buy some things.

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Guarionex Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:40 PM
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1. this doesn't work....
it's a nice sentiment, but it doesn't work. The world economy is too globalized, and our country depends on various products from other countries (in fact, without foreign imports, you might as well say goodbye to a LOT of necessary primary and luxury products).

Better way: develop an international treaty on fair wages that helps to keep jobs here at home, by reducing the incentive to do business overseas...I'm sure there are other alternatives, so I welcome them.

But buying American won't do anything
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:48 PM
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4. You know it WILL WORK
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:50 PM by nadinbrzezinski
if enough of us demand it

I mean yuo DO remember the 1980s

Thuogh buying American is not as simple as buying the American Brand... for instance my Honda Hybrid has employed far more Americans than my neighboor's Ford, if you get my drift.

Always check contry of origin and counrry of assembly.

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frogfromthenorth2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:40 PM
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2. I make a effort not to buy American...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:49 PM
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5. If I were in Canada I woudl be doing the same
quite frankly, but right now I want to slap the machine.

I needed a cap for it was painfully cold in Sunny So Cal... and I did NOT stop lookng until I found an American made one, so it is not quite the style i like... and I made it loud.

I needed a sweater, took three days... union made American made

it can be done, just that it is a lot of work.

And mebbe many in this country don't care enough about their jobs to make teh connections
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:50 PM
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6. Canadians are American
I know the word 'American' has been twisted. But America signifies a continent as in North America.
:think:
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:45 PM
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3. That is why we need COOL!
http://www.farmaid.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=6026

The bushies hate it. The bushies are unpatriotic.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 02:51 PM
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7. I dunno, its a bit simplistic
Some foreign foods, for example, are higher quality than are made in
the US, and i'm picking about food. Do YOU trust the US meat
industry?

As well, buying american, simply puts taxes in to the petroleum
culture of war and imperial repression of revolts. One could just
as well make the observation that buying selectively from some
foreign suppliers is far more patriotic for someone opposed to
criminal war.

I'm sure the nazi's liked to "buy german" as well, but it just don't
sound all that patriotic when seen historically.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:06 PM
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8. Think of it this way
when yuo buy that jacket made in China or Bangladesh, you are not paying less for it.

By the way, that jacket was made with slave labor

When yuo buy American, you are EMPLOYING Americans, and you are paying, as the consumer the same money, or maybe a percentage or two higher, but that money is staying in the country and EMPLOYING your fellow Americans

You may think it is simplistic, but today we must do two things:

Boycott the economy, insofar as not consuming what we do not need

When we buy, BUY AMERICAN and BUY FROM A LOCAL STORE

Lets put it this way, when yuo buy this way, 70 cents of every dollar stay in your community. When you buy at a box store and imported it goes anywhere from 32 to 17 cents

It does not take a rocket science degree to see why this matters.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:13 PM
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11. So much depends the country
You bring up bangladesh and china. Ok. I was referring more to say
IKEA of sweden and other places that are paying living wages.

I buy from local farmers off-market. Eggs free range from nearby
chickens i've met and all that sorta thing. If it ain't food, i
can get it on ebay, where i'm selective as to origins.

That said, i've a vernier caliper that i can't be sure was not
partially made in china. This computer was partly made in malasia.
In some respects, given the massive supply chain integration of
modern technology, there is little hope of getting a product that
was not made in several countries.

Perhaps a more effective boycott would be to arrange to be paid in
such a way to avoid paying the income tax for mass murder.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:15 PM
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13. Yes the country mattes
but most of the crap is made in China and bangladesh and the Philipines

Ikea is a good idea... but why not American Made furniture? We do have a local store that MAKES it on site, with union labor... guess where I will get my furniture once we finally buy a home?

Ikea or this store?


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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:08 PM
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9. And buy INDEPENDENT!
I co-own two small businesses, and we pay UNION wages, employ LOCAL people and sell AMERICAN-MADE goods. For the love of God, please buy from such businesses, whenever you can, because many of us are Democats, too.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:11 PM
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10. Do you know who makes American made
preferably Union made, KITCHEN TIMERS?

I need one and refuse to buy one from teh store

Worst comes to worst I will download a timer into teh laptop and USE THAT!

;-)

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:14 PM
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12. I'm afraid I don't.
If I did, though, I'd certainly tell you.

:hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:16 PM
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14. so the software will do
I refuse to buy one, and the one in the 20 year old oven is BROKEN...

I never cared, I never baked...

I am sure I can find something... hmmm in fact I think I know what I will get... silly me and they are made in the US... an hour glass clock.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:17 PM
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15. Do do me a favor,
send me a link to yoru businesses... I am making a collection of them, found a place that makes socks...

;-)

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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:25 PM
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18. If you happen to know of any
American mfg's of fishing and sprorting good supplies, I'd be interested. I have some, but not nearly enough. The problem I often run into is that because US mfg's have higher costs than imports, they sometimes have minimum orders that I can't afford to meet.
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:21 PM
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16. I have a store. I try hard to find American made goods
It's not easy. And I can't always afford them. And if I can afford them, I can't neccessarily sell them, b/c Walmart has a crappily made similar item made in China that it sells cheaper. I buy everything I can from local sources, but it's hard. Often, I can't even FIND anything like I need made in the US b/c it's all outsourced. If I don't make sales, I go under.

My motto is to shop small business. Your $10 doesn't mean crap to Walmart, but I definitely appreciate it. They do more sales through one register on one day during one shift than I do in a month's time.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:23 PM
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17. "Your $10 doesn't mean crap to Walmart, but I definitely appreciate it."
You hit THAT nail squarely on the head! Not only will I take your $10, but I shall be genuinely appreciative of the fact that you chose to do business with me, and will make every effort to ensure that you do so again.

:hi:
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:26 PM
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19. And I'll shoot the bull with you and offer you a free cup of coffee!
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:27 PM
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20. Exactly!
I'll also let you pet the store cat.

:)
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:30 PM
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21. You too, LOL! Mine is named Cotton
and she spends her day sitting on the side of the minnow tank waiting for one to swim too close to the top.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:34 PM
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25. Ours is named Merlin.
He spends his being a layabout, a killer of all winged insects and a loving, very affectionate mooch. :P

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:31 PM
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22. And this is why I, as a comsumer, WILL INSIST
on American Made Goods... shoot I may have to make some myself, oh well


(Kitchen utensils such as kitchen spoons, the wood ones work and quite honestly I am tired of getting crap at wally mart)

Now that is why the montana action was so important, people went to wally mart and screamed buy american buy local.... and I still remember when wally mart had the proudly made in the US for all their goods. Sam died and the kids outsourced EVERYTHING so it will give them a peny or two extra in profit per item.

Sooner or alter nobody will be able to buy tehir crap either, but that is ok...

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:32 PM
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23. Buy used.. well, most things.
That's the environmentally correct thing to do.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:33 PM
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24. good luck. Hope you've got good walking shoes
cause you're gonna need 'em.

Anybody know of a website that lists American-made products? That's what I want. I need to buy a new coffeemaker, for instance, and want to buy American.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:39 PM
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26. ask and yuo shall receive
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:51 PM
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28. cool! Have you started a thread with that?
because if you did, i missed it
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Ms_Mary Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:38 PM
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34. Thank you. That list is greatly appreciated.
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:49 PM
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27. U.S. Stuff - product List and Index, Products Made in USA
found this site.....

http://www.usstuff.com/

plenty of links to merchandise MADE HERE...

http://www.usstuff.com/prodlist.htm

hope it helps
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:56 PM
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30. that's cool, thanks! n/t
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:08 PM
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33. here's a link
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:51 PM
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29. Can't even till where most food comes
from these days in most markets. Big agribusiness doesn't want labeling - too busy chopping down forests in Brazil, fertilizing the soil to make room for megamansions in the US on our fast vanishing toplands.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 03:57 PM
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31. Whole Foods does. But they ain't cheap
We have one right near our house, and I it's great but the cost of everything seems pretty high. If you don't mind that, I highly recommend them.

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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:03 PM
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32. be mindful -"American" can include Northern Marianas Island sweatshops or
prison labor!

http://www.sweatshopwatch.org

another really informative person is Jim Keady-
he gave up his coaching job when he found out how terrible Nike's factory conditions were.

http://www.educatingforjustice.org/
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