Meanwhile...over at Freerepublic...

[EMunster]

To: Mike Fieschko

"I just think they are sore losers and money and time (for the recount) could be spent on other things."

Pretty much sums it up!

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To: Mike Fieschko

"Canada's only a stone's throw away... Don't let us stop you..."

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To: SandyInSeattle

Isnt tomorrow officaly set, game, and match? As if Nov 2nd wasnt.. but still...

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To: Mike Fieschko

No papier mache heads or street theater. Losing their creativity.

Like the song says

Who's in the White House?

Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush.

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To: Mike Fieschko

If you do not go away, we will taunt you a second time.

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To: Next_Time_NJ

Yes, and if I'm not mistaken the Ohio SecState already certified. So how that barking moonbat can say this is an "illegitimate gathering" is beyond me.

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To: Brilliant

"Canada's only a stone's throw away... Don't let us stop you..."

It is 47 miles from the Ohio-Michigan state line to the Ambassador Bridge.

I'll help them pack.

8 posted on 12/12/2004 7:57:18 PM PST by GoBucks2002
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Isnt tomorrow officaly set, game, and match? As if Nov 2nd wasnt.. but still...

After tomorrow, it will be in the hands of the House. No court in the country can stop it.

9 posted on 12/12/2004 7:57:19 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Mike Fieschko

"L'Estrange of We Do Not Concede"

Hhmm. Sounds like a FRENCH name to me.


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You can steal votes, but you can't steal THIS kind of sharp, on-the-ball wit. Believe you me.

for a little more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300079/posts

[ClassWarrior]

1. "...money and time (for the recount) could be spent on other things."

Like what?? More tax cuts for their beloved billionaire overlords??

LOL

NGU.

[Erika]

4. They are indeed a pathetic group

Kind of like the paupers who believed they belonged in paupers prisons while the elitists never lived higher. The idiots.

[wrate]

11. Killing more Arabs maybe. This freepers seem to enjoy that. n/t

[AllegroRondo]

50. Like investigating Clinton's sex life again?

no problem wasting money on that!

[IAMREALITY]

2. LOL LOL It's so funny how unprepared/uneducated they are over there!

It cracks me up so much that they actually think they can breathe a sigh of relief tomorrow like that's the final straw LOL Just shows they have NO idea how this process works.

Funnier thing is some of them actually know that it then goes to the house, but they are stupid enough to think that if Ohio DOES send an additional set of electoral votes after Dec 13th because they found that Kerry did in fact win Ohio, that the house would just ignore them! They don't understand that if the evidence shows that Kerry won Ohio and an additonal set of electoral votes is sent that the House would NO WAY accept the original slate, whether they are republican controlled or not!

That is what cracks me up, they think they don't have to fear after tomorrow, when tomorrow is the day they should start to fear like they've never feared before!!!!!!

ALL HAIL PRESIDENT KERRY!

[Gman]

13. You fail to consider one crucial fact of life since 2000

That is the fact that we are now, and have been since January 2001 living under a right wing revolutionary government of which the House is part. That is to say that the right wing overthrew the United States government in 2000 and that revolution was perpetuated last month. So, even if it is shown that Kerry won Ohio and the presidency, do not expect the House to accept the slate of electors that will vote for Kerry. They fully intend to reinstall Bush for a second illegitimate term. That's the way dictatorships work. We now live in one. Dictatorships do not give up that easy, just because the opposition wins an election.

If Kerry is shown to have won Ohio and the election, and if the House refuses to accept Kerry as the rightful, legal president (as was the case with Gore), you and everyone else here need to decide what we are going to do about it. Start thinking now.

Rule of law? The Constitution? Ha! Don't be naive.

[belab13]

14. kick!!!

[sundancekid]

3. I no longer recognize my own beloved country in the freeper comments

OMG, grant us both justice and mercy in Ohio

[Zookeeper]

5. Hey Sundancekid....

You're at 999 posts. How do you feel about that? ;)

[liberalhistorian]

51. Anyone wondering how

Hitler was able to take control and do what he did, and why he wasn't stopped sooner, should take a look at Free Republic and the AOL and Yahoo message boards. There's the answer right there. And how frightening and disgusting that this country is filled with hateful dumbnut fuckbubbles like that.

[IAMREALITY]

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NAH NAH NAH NAH......NAH NAH NAH NAH.....HEY HEY HEY.. GOODBYEEEE

KERRY WON FREEPERS, GET OVER IT!!!!

[spoogly]

7. Freeper Land Has Become A Comedy Site

I get some of my best entertainment over there lately. I have bookmarked it in my "political comedy" topic.

It's better than watching Barney Fife on the Andy Griffith show. So authoritative yet so...well...vacuous.

[AnIndependentTexan]

8. They are so scared by the Kerry Letter which is hot hot hot hot

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1300055/posts

The ghost of Florida's chad has reappeared in Ohio...resurrected by a dimwit from Massachusets. Is Al Gore standing behind Kerry and making his mouth move?



8 posted on 12/12/2004 7:18:58 PM PST by MissouriConservative

[femme.democratique]

9. And this one.....*evil cackle* -- Mathematically Impossible My Ass!

"To: RtWngr
Are you serious? Do you think that the Republicans are going to allow these losers to count the ballots on their own without them scrutinizing every ballot. From the 92,000 spoiled ballots, there are overvotes and undervotes. At best 20% of these spoiled ballots will be allowed for counting.
Anyway President Bush official and certified lead is 118,775 votes over Kerry. It is Mathematically impossible for Kerry to overcome it no matter how many times they count the ballots. It is just "Mathematically Impossible", period.

This recount will be just “academic” and it carries absolutely no constitutional and no legal impact on the results of the election in Ohio.


15 posted on 12/12/2004 7:35:23 PM PST by jveritas
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[AnIndependentTexan]

12. Freepers never think with logic

To them the hardest work is trying to produce a functional thought. In their small brains they never understand logic or reason. They just play follow the leader till someone tells them to jump off a cliff. I'm feeling very good about the Kerry letter tonight and am very proud of him. He is a true President unlike the chimp. Kerry is still inspiring me even now with his strength and wisdom. I'll be proud to call him President when they overturn the election.

[Raksha]

16. Can you believe the cluelessness...

...of this bit of Freeper "wisdom"?

>>The Secretary of State of Ohio office should have filed a counter suit to stop the counting claiming the parties had no standing since they had publically said that a recount in the contest period would not change the results.<<

Can they really believe a statement to the effect that "a recount in the contest period would not change the results" has any legal standing WHATSOEVER? And that Blackwell should have/could have filed a countersuit to that effect? Absolutely AMAZING!

--Linda

[thedutch]

28. ahoy fellow newbie!

like the username. that's a 'cannibal demon' from indian mythology, right?

[Raksha]

32. "Raksha," yes I understand it means "demon" in Sanscrit.

But I chose it because it's the name of a lioness in Kipling's "The Jungle Book." It's a nickname an online friend gave me years ago, and I liked it so I stuck with it. Now I'm Raksha all over the Internet!

[bear425]

10. and they know that we know that they know...

you know...

[Kralizec]

15. Have I told you tonight how much I HATE these people?

[angrydemocrat]

17. What A Bunch Of......

Illiterate dumbasses! These people need to go back to school and learn government and politics! No damn wonder they would vote for a illiterate dumbass they are just like him!

[Straight Shooter]

18. What bothers me most of all about freepers:

They never stop to question their racism or the racism of their "leaders." It just never enters their mind that despite everything else, such as manipulation of ballots and tampering with the evote machines, that if the people of color had been given the same access to voting as the whites, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Everyone knows, whether they admit it or not, that suppression of the minority vote was the key obstacle to Kerry's lead.

Until they address the issue of their innate racism and racist policies which at times will give them an edge in elections, then I have no use for these people. None whatsoever. They are scum if they approve, either tacitly or overtly, the suppression of minorities and denial of the vote to minorities.

Let me repeat it again in case they're reading this post: Freepers are racist scum.

[Karenca]

20. yes, they are racists,:

they're afraid that if we, the Dems are the ruling party, ---
god forbid! the "people of color" might move into their neighborhoods and attend their children's schools.
Repukes hate minorities...That is also the why they hate metropolitan cities...because we are diversified, and we like it!

I always am astounded when I see some Repuke on TV who belongs to a minority.
I'm like : 'ASSHOLE- You're whole party hates you and your kind, and wants to keep your people down.....Hellooo?? Then I think, well, this loser probably has made himself a little money, has a little house, and a decent car, so he thinks that he should "belong" to a superior (in his mind)political party now. Self-hating piece of shit, he is.

Repukes are either:evil
or
ignorant.

Nothing in-between.

[Straight Shooter]

21. People like Colin Powell, Condi Rice, "Katherine" Blackwell

They are the worst.

I give the crown to Colin, because he of all people knows damn well what's going on, but still he sold his soul to serve a master who has nothing but contempt for him.

[femme.democratique]

19. The idiocy just keeps rollin' along....

The intellectual heavyweight Freeper named "Jumper", known throughout the land for his rapier-sharp wit and 5th grade spelling competency, came up with this little gem: "Someday, democrats will not accept the electrol process."

Oh, and since the freeps are lurking, someone please tell OSHA that Diebold made the optical scanning machines used in OH? Ahem, the same machines that they want to inspect?


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To: JeanS
This ploy is simply about casting doubt upon the very process that makes democracy different from the rulership by the socialist elite in Europe; part of the culture war against democracy in America. Someday, democrats will not accept the electrol process.



55 posted on 12/12/2004 9:02:08 PM PST by Jumper
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To: Mike Fieschko
Don't forget Diebold! They figured out a way to steal the election in a state that doesn't even use their machines.

56 posted on 12/12/2004 9:02:44 PM PST by OSHA (Actual DUer - Kerry Won - Get Over It!!)
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To: OSHA
Yes... Karl Rove had ALL the ballots secretly counted by Diebold. Informed sources tell us the Republican conspiracy to steal the election will be blown wide open in the next few weeks. Developing... ;-)



57 posted on 12/12/2004 9:04:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)

[PBS Poll-435]

22. Speaking of Freeperland......

I love DU! Not only does our board look way better, I seem to appreciate the company a little more.

Don't they have and abortion clinic to bomb?

:crazy: :scared:

[Diane L]

23. Diane L

The DU board definitely is professional. Their's looks, well, freeper-made. I have also noticed that democrats are better looking than "them".

[m berst]

24. we are facing some serious problems

Much of what is posted at some of these sites is very disturbing. I fail to see the humor in what goes on there at FR and I don't see it as very constructive to mock and ridicule them.

I also object to using them as a benchmark for comparisons with DU.

Posting their stuff here just gives them that which they crave most - attention.

They do not seem "scared" or worried at all to me. They seem very confident and very belligerent. Getting into taunting back and forth with them - which is what this will inevitably lead to - is merely stooping to their level.

And that's my opinion.

[Charlie Brown]

25. On the contrary,

Exposing their hate and idiocy serves an important purpose. If ANY elected Republican said any number of Freeper-like statements about Islam, integration, teachers, or minorities, they'd have to apologize or face the consequences (like Mr. Lott did). If anyone ever tries to pretend that Republicans are tolerant, enlightened and intellectual, simply show them a thread from freerepublic. I guarantee you that at the bear minimum, they'll have to admit that a fair number of conservatives are backward. At the maximum, they'll jump on board with the progressives. No fault in exposing hatred and intolerance to the masses.

[m berst]

26. I disagree

Exposing their hate and idiocy serves an important purpose. If ANY elected Republican said any number of Freeper-like statements about Islam, integration, teachers, or minorities, they'd have to apologize or face the consequences (like Mr. Lott did).

That is equally true about much of what is said here.

anyone ever tries to pretend that Republicans are tolerant, enlightened and intellectual, simply show them a thread from freerepublic. I guarantee you that at the bear minimum, they'll have to admit that a fair number of conservatives are backward. At the maximum, they'll jump on board with the progressives. No fault in exposing hatred and intolerance to the masses.

To whom should we be showing this, and how will that help anything? The people there are not representative of anything. There are many, many conservatives who long since got disgusted with them and left over the years.

In any case, it is no news to anyone here, and I don't think it is news to the posters on this thread. It is merely an excuse to get into a bash "them" session because it feels good to do that for some people.

They desperately crave attention over there. The more attention they get, the more outrageous they become and the more power and influence they have.

[Charlie Brown]

29. I think it's useful to know your opposition

I spend a lot of time observing what is posted there and taking note of the divisions.

The biggest thing that separates Democrats from elected office for the past ten years has been the talk-radio phenomena, of which Freerepublic has much in common. I want to know what makes their "base" tick, what divides them, and what we can use to our advantage.

I would hope that by igniting threads like this, we can brainstorm on what tactics to use, or how to reach people in our communities (local fundraisers, newsletters, or what have you). I guess my hope is that some good will come by alerting people of how these neocons think.

[m berst]

30. they aren't the opposition

The opposition is the ruthless tyrants that have seized control of the government. That is my point. This is a distraction.

[T Town Jake]

31. Whenever I encounter a "distraction"...

...at DU that I don't feel much like paying attention to, I usually ignore it. Is some sinister exterior force compelling you against your will to read this thread? To participate in it, even? :shrug: I thought not. Last I heard, DU had some handy tools to fix such a problem as you are apparently plagued with: just "hide" the thread. It works, I promise. You oughta try it.

[m berst]

33. around and around we go

I usually do ignore them, but for the sake of some new people who may have been sucked into the FR bashing without thinking it through, I thought I would offer an alternative, We can get silly with this, because I could say that people who tell other people to put people they disagree with on ignore rather than respond to them should themselves be put on ignore etc. ad infinitum.

See what I am saying? People get into accusing the accusers and being suspicious of the suspicious and on and on. Eventually no one will be able to post anything, and no one will ever be able to counter anything anyone else posts. We will all either be so suspicious of each other that it is a constant flame war, or we will all have each other on ignore.

I made one comment here and would have let it stand at that if someone hadn't responded, Since someone did respond, I saw no harm in making my point more clear for the benefit of those who are reading and may find value in that.

[T Town Jake]

35. Reading this post I see that you make...

...an excellent point, and find myself agreeing.

Damn, I just hate it when that happens... :grr:

Your larger, more general assertion is quite correct, and I call Peace. :hi:

[m berst]

36. no wait!!!

I didn't want to win! I am a Democrat! :)

Peace to you as well TTJ :toast:

[Old Mouse]

37. I sort of agree

I do not agree we should not monitor, and occasionally post for review their comments, but I do think everyone here is seriously underestimating the danger these people represent.

They hate us with a passion that equals their inability to follow logic. They have invested all of their personal sense of self in their cause of defending the self contradictory tenants of the bush faith. Even if Bush, Rove, and both Republican houses of congress go away, these guys will still be here, and madder than before.

It's how the Klan was created. These guys will be worse.

[T Town Jake]

27. The mindset is simply unbelievable...

...and disturbing. :thumbsdown:

[Charlls]

41. Sometimes is told that the main reason Europe joined forces

with Stalin, is that, even if capitalist west has profound political and philosophical differences with the "communist" east, apparently both sides perceived that, relative to the mindset that nazis represented, they at least shared a common conception of world and ethics, even despite each side applied them in radical different ways. Nazis had the particular notion that magic was the main energy that moved the world, and that energy manifested itself in the world in the form of polithical power & rethoric. Then, its not surprising looking at these facts, that EU and URSS joined against them, right?

Its something interesting, and also very disturbing to think about

[T Town Jake]

43. Well...perhaps.

...I don't buy it, for one, but perhaps. The analogy breaks down because the "freepers" aren't goose-stepping through the streets in a bona fide fascist nation, but rather posting horseshit on an internet message board in a democratic country, however flawed.
They're "disturbing" only in the sense that I believe their politics suck, and that most of them are Morans. We're not nearly to Wiemar, at least yet.

[Charlls]

44. Most people dismiss quickly the analogy with fascism

because freeper-fundamentalism menthality doesnt seem to fit well with the semi-pagan germanic nazi. Try better with the phalangist mentality from the franquist Spain. They main motto was "with Christ and the King"

[T Town Jake]

45. Franco-inspired Christian Nationalism...

...that's closer to the mark, for sure, than the precision formations the mid-twentieth century fascist regimes were able to assemble. For one thing, most "freepers" probably couldn't have fitted into those close-fitting uniforms.. :evilgrin:

[neebob]

34. What's a moonbat?

They seem use that term a lot over there, in relation to DUers.

[DemonFighterLives]

46. I think it is supposed to desribe tinfoilhatters

It is a label that is supposed to cut dems. down, but it doesn't seem to hurt.
You know sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me -

[Undercover Owl]

38. question about secret FReepers

Have a lot of secret Freepers been exposed on the DU recently?

Do they pretend to be democrats and then suddenly lash out at sincere D.U. people?

Or are they mostly in-your-face pesky & argumentative?

[T Town Jake]

39. I have no earthly idea...

...how about you?

[Undercover Owl]

40. oh well,

it was probably nothing. A couple of people posted on another, old thread, that they suspect all newbies of being freepers.

Maybe they were just blowing hot air.

[T Town Jake]

42. Here's something you'd better pick up quick...

...there are certain posters around here who will accuse anyone who disagrees with them in the slightest - whether a first day "newbie" with 3 posts or a 1,000+ poster with a star who has been around since 2001 - of being a "freeper." They use it as a cheap way to dismiss those who say so much as "boo!" in opposition of any given opinion they might have posted in a thread.
As long as you're not a real "freeper," I wouldn't worry about it in the least. It just comes with the territory. And welcome to DU, BTW.

[sockpuppet]

52. Hello and Thanks!

This is my first day. I have been a little nervous about posting because of the attacks that I see on newbies. Your post makes me feel a little better about jumping into the mix.

[m berst]

49. that is not true

In the thread you posted on, the op clearly said that he was joking.

[m berst]

48. how many times are you going to ask this?

You have asked this one way or another a few times now. Might want to give it a rest.

Friendly advice.

[Tsiyu]

47. And you can bet your progressive little bootie

that these same goons would be frothing at the mouth for recounts if * had lost the initial counts.

They know this thing was stolen. They're just like little kids burning down their own house and blaming Mommy cuz she got pissed.