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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:20 PM
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If Children Could Vote...
How much different would politicians act? I have personally advocated lowering the voting age to at least 16.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:23 PM
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1. They already ignore most of the sub-25s anyway... so 16 isn't low enough
Strip the voting age completely.

My son would probably Vote for "The Wiggles"... I'd have to counter his vote with one for "The Teletubbies"...

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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:28 PM
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2. Children would most likely vote as their parents vote
Now, how many children does the average liberal couple have? How many children does the average conservative couple have? Well let's see, no birth control, no abortion, "go forth and multiply" no concern for overpopulation and the environment. Hmmm...disaster is what I'm thinking! I'd rather wait until children are a the stage of forming their own opinions. 16 sounds about right but younger gets a bit tricky. I've know 14 year olds with insight but I've also known 14 year olds who think that Beavis and Butthead are intellectual comedy.
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:42 PM
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3. Beavis and Butthead ARE intellectual comedy
and I'm able to vote. ;)
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:00 PM
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9. I love Beavis and Butthead
and I can vote
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:19 PM
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13. I've known ten year olds with insight...
I was one. Of course, many don't have insight, but then again, Bush is far above 18.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:44 PM
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4. Have you ever talked to a 16 year old?
Many, not all, still think in "black and white" terms. Heck, there are even college students who still think this way. I think it would be a great thing for Republicans.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:50 PM
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8. Thank you. </sarcasm> (n/t)
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:52 PM
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5. Let's see...
...more money to colleges, less to schools, no chance at all of a draft, long-term increase of birth rates.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 01:54 PM
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6. I don't think so.
They would probably vote how their parents told them to not what they think is best.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:29 PM
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15. Incorrect...
by ten, I was already forming political ideas and choosing which candidate to support. I did not listen to my parents when it came to that.
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userdave2061 Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:16 PM
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23. Perhaps you are an exception
But most teenagers are not mentally able to make an informed decision such as how the country should be run.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:38 PM
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24. And adults are?
Regan was elected, after all. So was Bush Senior. And Junior, though he wasn't elected, got almost half the votes.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 02:12 PM
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7. If kids voted some *sshole like Schwartzenneger
would be in politicol office. Think adults vote on name recognition and popularity? Flood afternoon TV with your former movie star turned neo-con candidate and bang! instant officeholder.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 04:02 PM
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10. I wouldn't vote for Schwartznegger unless he was running against *
Could we avoid the broad generalizations here, folks? :grr:

(And since you're new, I'll inform you now that I'm 16 and I'm not even the youngest member of DU.)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:03 PM
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11. You are right
that was uncalled for. 16 year olds could probably make better decisions than our "more experienced" populace. Please forgive the wide brush.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:13 PM
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12. No problem (n/t)
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:32 PM
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17. Goobergunch
I didn't make a "broad generalization" in my previous post. I said "not all." There are definately certain development steps that take place as human beings grow. Many people go through them more quickly than others. I suspect you are one of those people, so please don't take offense.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:34 PM
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20. I noticed
That wasn't directed at you. I agree that there are many of my age that probably shouldn't vote...I know some of them personally!

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:36 PM
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21. yes. And if there were only a way to make people reach a certain "mental
age" before they were allowed to vote, then we'd be in good shape!
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:37 PM
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22. There are many THREE TIMES your age that shouldn't vote...
it has little to do with maturity, more to do with political awareness.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:24 PM
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14. This is a stupid argument
While perhaps appealing in theory it would be in effect representation without taxation.

And since someone will bring up a "teenagers work hard also" argument I will throw in the lack of legal rights, inability to be drafted or drink alcohol. No having it both ways...all or nothing.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:29 PM
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16. sales tax? (n/t)
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:33 PM
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18. Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon
have no sales tax at state level.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:33 PM
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19. Hell, WE couldn't vote at 18!!!
Imagine it's 1968, and you are 18, and you are not allowed to vote until you are 21! But you have already HAD to register with the selective service, and you have a draft card which you HOPE will say either II-S, or 4-F. And Vietnam is going full speed ahead, the Tet Offensive is just a few months old.

Would Nixon have won, had we been able to vote??? I doubt it.
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