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Lone_Wolf_Moderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:40 PM
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Poll question: Is George W. Bush evil?
Edited on Mon Dec-13-04 11:44 PM by Lone_Wolf_Moderate
This is a serious question. I know most of us at DU disagree with his policies, but personally, is he evil? I would say no. I disagree with his policies, and I think they're bad for America, but I don't have anything against him personally, and I don't think he's evil. What do you think?
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:42 PM
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1. The Anti-Christ
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 PM
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3. Amen
.
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:33 AM
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30. Agreed
My mom has started saying "I bet if you shave his head you'll find the sixes '666'"

I wouldnt doubt it
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:44 PM
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2. He lied to start a war that's killed as many as 100,000, and he says
he'd do it all again.

Sorry, but that's why they invented the word evil.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:45 PM
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4. There is evil in this administration,
I'm just not sure where. I think Falwell/Robertson are evil. I think Dick Cheney and Carl Rove are evil.

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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:47 PM
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5. He's an evil man who uses his "stupid" facade as cover.
I wish people would stop calling him "stupid." He knows what he's doing, and it ain't pretty.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:55 AM
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19. I'm with you on that
He's as bad as they come. The whole gang is evil, every one of them. Wolfowitz, Perle, Rummy, Cheney, the whole lot of them.
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jasmineblue Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:09 AM
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25. "Dumb Like A Fox"
is what my Mom keeps saying! I'm beginning to think she's right. As long as people are appalled by and focused on his "stupidity", this provides a smokescreen for him to plan & carry out further evil.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 02:02 AM
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29. but crimes committed in ignorance are never a violation of the law..
why should ignorance of right or wrong become a standard for morality?
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Longgrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:47 PM
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6. Bush is just the puppet
want to find the anti-christ...look behind the puppet...
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:50 PM
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8. If he's allowing himself to be used as a puppet
then there is something inside him that is evil. Something that doesn't stop and consider the consequences of his actions. Someone who doesn't question if something is wrong.

There are no excuses for bush, he's either evil, or he's evil for allowing himself to be used for evil.
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:10 AM
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32. I never used to believe in the Anti Christ but I do now
Seriously, I never believed in an anti-christ, or an evil human. Not even Ted Bundy changed my mind about the impossibility of a human being infused with evil.

The GW Bush enigma is very deceptive and it illuminates evil.
It has emerged from...hmm, a pit of something very horrible, that's all my senses can tell me at this moment.

I'm only kind-of kidding, but not really.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:33 AM
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46. regardless - bush IS evil. he dances to their tune happily.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:47 PM
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7. evil (adj):
e·vil Audio pronunciation of "evil" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vl)
adj. e·vil·er, e·vil·est

1. Morally bad or wrong; wicked: an evil tyrant.
2. Causing ruin, injury, or pain; harmful: the evil effects of a poor diet.
3. Characterized by or indicating future misfortune; ominous: evil omens.
4. Bad or blameworthy by report; infamous: an evil reputation.
5. Characterized by anger or spite; malicious: an evil temper.


1) Arguable, but I say yes.
2) Yep.
3) Yep.
4) Duh.
5) :eyes:

Using the D&D definition of evil, you get something like "self-involved to the point that he would be willing to hurt others to attain his goals." That's Bush to a T.
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njdemocrat106 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:56 PM
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9. Good thing you had the Rove/Cheney option
I don't think Bush is evil, just a greedy and selfish son-of-a-bitch.
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Diane L Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:57 PM
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10. He's a fascist murderer!
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-13-04 11:59 PM
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11. Yes, and so are his puppet masters. n/t
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:04 AM
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12. George W. Bush
is both evil, *and* banal.
He is everything Hannah Arendt would hope for in a model.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:07 AM
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13. He is a sociopath. Does that make him evil? Maybe.
I am certain that the powers behind the throne are evil.
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:50 AM
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17. I agree. * is a sociopath.
He doesn't have the ability to feel the pain of any living creature. He can laugh when someone is put to death and begs for their life. He can make jokes about WMD being hidden somewhere in his office when he has sent thousands to die for a lie. I believe he is not only capable of lying, cheating, stealing, harming others and not having an ounce of remorse, but much worse; being able to laugh about it as he does it.

I think that's as close to evil as you can get, even if someone else like Rove or Cheney, who appear to me, to be power and money hungry and creepily self-satisfied with their machinations behind the scenes, are truly making all the big decisions. All three of them take great joy in not only beating their opponents, but in totally humiliating and destroying them. They thrive off the suffering of others. It's taking over of the world by spoiled, stunted mental midgets who found out that faking religious fervor is an easy way to fool several million blinded by faith Americans. Evil knows what it's doing. After all, all it is is the absence of good.
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giant_robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:47 PM
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51. Very well put
He is a sociopath. He is also evil, and dumber than a box of hammers. But inside his head, I think he really buys the "strong leader chosen by god" bullshit. In my opinion, that makes him more dangerous than someone who actually knows what he's doing is evil.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:59 AM
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21. I agree.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:11 AM
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14. Bush had a talk with Daddy and Pnac one day...
and George said; " I can do that?...then he went nuts! Bush could care less if 50,000 US. troops fought this war...all that matters is control of the oil and a permanent middle-east parking lot!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:39 AM
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15. I have a lot of problems with Bush, on a personal level
Edited on Tue Dec-14-04 12:41 AM by ComerPerro
He is a jackass. He is a pathetic, drunk, rich asshole. Without his father's name and Saudi money, he is nothing.

And how on earth can someone so stupid and so mired in failure be so arrogant.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:44 AM
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16. I voted YES
all you have to do is look in his eyes,Evil?:Yes,Stupid?:NO
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:54 AM
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18. He's a puppet. But he's an evil puppet.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:55 AM
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20. The whole administration is evil. Every one of them. n/t
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:07 AM
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22. how could it be anything but yes?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:07 AM
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23. very evil and very stupid
that's what makes him so very dangerous
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bobweaver Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:08 AM
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24. The whole party is evil. Every last one of them.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:13 AM
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26. Nah, there are a lot of good people who happen to be republicans.
It's the greedheads and fascists at the top of the dungpile making the laws and CEOing the herds who are the evil ones.

(And the high-level Dems in collusion are just as evil, IMO)
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:55 AM
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28. Then Republicans Are Guilty of Being Blind
and allowing our kids to be killed because they didn't put on their glasses.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 01:25 AM
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27. Satans seed
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 03:00 AM
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31. Evil is
as evil does
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:17 AM
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39. Yep
You stole my thunder.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 04:58 AM
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33. Bush is just mentally/emotionally deranged...his PARTY
is evil. His vp and the other neocon suplicants around him, including the whacko Pat Robertsons/Falwells, are EVIL. It's not a matter of a single individual..it's the evil of their ideology.

Somewhere along the line, these asswipes got the idea implanted(Satan?:think:) that what they are doing is a good thing..for those that know it's not a good thing, they figure: 'Who's going to stop them'? To stop them might require a bit of violence, if push came to shove. How many people want to engage in that kind of force/aggressiveness???

Pacifists are taken for granted and swept aside in this new political environment, unfortunately.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:16 AM
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34. I voted number three
bush is to stupid to be evil...
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:46 AM
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37. I see it that way...
I've always thought that to be evil -- truly and righteously evil -- there has to be a certian amount of devious intelligence involved. I just don't see it in him. :shrug:
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Ani Yun Wiya Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 05:52 AM
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35. * is an empty skinbag.
* is an empty skinbag.

And it appears that great evil resides within.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 07:16 AM
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36. "Is Geo. W. Bush evil?"
Is the pope Catholic? </rhetorical>
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:02 AM
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38. Evil is subjective. Here is how I define evil. Do you agree?
First, notice how Bush limits "evil" to people who wish US citizens harm.

I find evil to be a bit more encompassing:

* Killing another human is evil.
* Causing another human being intense suffering is evil. Examples include using avarice, greed, jealousy, and other forms of manipulation to wilfully hurt another person or that person's lifestyle.
* Having power over a group of people and committing actions that hurt their lives. Once again, greed and other selfish factors apply.
* Telling everybody how they all have to contribute, yet in return doing actions that have some people contributing less, or nothing at all. (topical example would be * giving huge tax cuts to the wealthy while telling us we all need to sacrifice.)

I would say there's a group of Americans who are just as evil as the people they are labelling 'evil'. For evil is more than flying an aeroplane into a building. It is also destroying peoples' livelihoods, sense of well being, and/or sense of self.

Even the Bible goes into the sin of greed and how greed and selfishness had led God to destroy entire cities.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:21 AM
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40. Bush is the most evil man alive
That is my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:27 AM
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41. His narcissism confirms it
Inability to admit fault is a telltale sign.

Julie
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:35 AM
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42. Bush = War = Death
One can't be more evil than that.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 09:42 AM
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43. He's being used by evil men
I'm not so sure he was born evil. He's awfully human to be pure evil, with his poor speaking skills and all. Plus, his daughters seem to like him, so he must be pretty nice to them.

If Bush had never run for public office, was just the ex-frat guy down the street who worked as a businessman of some sort, he'd probably be an okay neighbor.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:36 AM
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47. Yeah, and If Hitler had never gotten into politics
he'd be that artist fellow down the street in Austira, too.

:eyes:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 12:15 PM
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50. But, you could say that about anybody.
IIf you watch the doc. Blind Spot (Hitler's Secretary). You will hear about how sweet he was to his girlfriend and the staff. He treated people kindly according to her. That was part of the reason it was so hard for her to believe that he was such a monster. I'm not comparing the two. But it's just something to think about. A lot of despots can be nice to their family memebers and neighbors.
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:07 AM
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44. Evil, Stupid, Crazy -- His real trifecta
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:13 AM
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45. I believe in neither the Christian God or devil: however, I'm firmly
convinced of a power of evil (and of good) to which we connect in some sense. Scott Peck referred to evil as deceptive spiritual laziness ("People of the Lie"). While I agree that Bush is both stupid and a puppet, these do not negate his being evil. Personally, I would rate Bush's corruption as a higher level of evil than Gheney's greed-based genre, but that's hardly the most important point. Evil is by nature contagious and corrupting. Colin Powell may have been a good man once; John McCain certainly was. But the disease spreads through this administration to their followers as well; thus the lack of outrage at our murderous neglect of the Geneva convention (among thousands of this regime's abuses). Certainly part of this is the media, the propaganda, and religious pandering, but those are merely part of the worsening whole. Americans are be sucked into participation in a monstrosity, much as the Germans were; but in some ways even more inexplicably, as Hitler at least provided short term military and economic success. The American participation in Bush's evil to the detriment of their own self-interest, to me, is the most frightening aspect of the dilemma. To many, comparison's of Bush to Hitler and th Anti-Christ are far-fetched because of degree. Bush's butcher toll of 130 thousand (I don't know the Afghanistan figures) doesn't approach Hitler's 60 million (WWII casualties), but Bush has only begun. His total lack of any self-critical quality & belief in his personal destiny render him, and consequently, America vulnerable to any manner of future holocausts.
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Harlan James Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:58 AM
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48. Very
He is basically breaking down and destroying our govt for the profit of both his own family and those he is in partnership with.

He has reduced the United States of America to a business asset.

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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 11:35 AM
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49. Anybody voted in item 2 or 3 needs to wake up
You are all fooled!
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Ira Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 10:56 PM
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52. People of the Lie
Scott Peck in his book "People of the Lie" asserts that satanic evil exists in this world, and the way that we can recognize evil is when we see someone lying. I believe that Bush has to wear that shoe because it fits.
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