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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:09 PM
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Well, how do you like how this administration is "supporting the troops?"
Court martial men for trying to protect themselves.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:12 PM
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1. But that's what they voted for.
Most of them.
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:12 PM
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2. Despite the rhetoric and feel good propaganda spewed by BushCo, this
administration obviously regards our troops as nothing but disposable pawns in a game of global and economic conquest. Anyone joining up with our military at this time is a fool, or suicidal.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:17 PM
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3. Radio scanners can prevent IED explosions ....
According to Stars and Stripes (Euro version)
""Knowledge is power against roadside bombs"
by Lisa Burgess, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Monday, April 26, 2004

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=21005&archive=true

""...Commercial jammers

Since at least the early 1980s, companies have sold devices that jam electronic signals for remote-controlled bombs, according to Ben Jamil, chief executive officer of Security Intelligence Technologies, Inc.

At first, the devices were all “barrage” jammers, which sent out a blast of “white noise” over a spectrum of frequencies and disrupted all radio communications, including the signal used to activate the bomb.

These weighed upwards of a ton and had to be carried on trucks, Jamil said.

Today’s jammers fit in a briefcase and use sophisticated computer algorithms and that “selectively analyze” signals in a given area, Jamil said, “and quickly make a decision whether to jam or not.”

In late January, during testimony before the House Armed Services Committee, Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker acknowledged that the Army is using jammers in Iraq to counter IEDs.

Schoomaker refused to say to what extent, and the Defense Department’s efforts to defeat remote-controlled IEDs continue to be shrouded in secrecy.

But in an April 21 hearing before the House Armed Services Committee, Maj. Gen. Buford Blount, the Army’s assistant deputy chief of staff for operations, said that “we have processed the needs statements for the jammers and those have been fielded now.

“Almost all convoys now have the capability to remotely jam the electronic detonation devices, like the garage doors or the cell phones,” Blount said.

Rep. Gene Taylor, D-Miss., said he wants assurances that all convoys will have jammers.

“Has the decision been reached to see to it that every convoy will have some form of protection against IEDs, some form of electronic countermeasures?” Taylor asked at the hearing.

“I could not answer that truthfully right now,” Blount said. “I know that’s the intent, but whether that is in fact taking place, I’d have to get back to you.”

Taylor was less than satisfied with that response.

“I feel bad that when I go to Iraq to visit the troops, someone is guarding me with that device,” Taylor said. “Doggone it, if you do it for me, you ought to be doing it for every kid that you send over there.”

Taylor, who has criticized the Army in previous hearings, saying the service is not doing enough to get jammers aboard convoys, said the cost of the jammers shouldn’t be a factor anymore.

“I’m told with some of these devices, because of the production rates, we’ve gotten it down to $10,000 a copy,” Taylor said. “I don’t think we can bury a GI for $10,000,” Taylor said.

“I do understand, before you even tell me, that once we do that they’re going to change tactics. Fine. Let’s make them change tactics. Because what they’re doing is working way too often, and way too easy.

“It is a priority,” Blount said.""
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-04 08:22 PM
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4. How much does it cost to relace a Humvee or a Bradley

disabled by a IED. It's a cost-effective proetctive measure before you even consider the loss of life.

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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:37 PM
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5. I've heard that there's 29K vehicles in Iraq and at $10,000 per
this means for around $290,000,000- $300,000,000 you could give all vehicles the ability to radio scan for those kinds of radio-controlled bombs. Or, just make sure no convoys go out without at least two vehicles front and rear with these scanners...

DoD can surely scrounge up some 'black money' for this chore !
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:45 PM
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6. ...and Super Mice can be used in bomb detection !
See the Guardian article at

'Super mice' could replace sniffer dogs'
by Richard Luscombe in Miami, Sunday May 30, 2004, The Observer

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1227979,00.html

The possiblities of detecting bombers prior to entry into the controlled Green Zone are better now.

It would be better for all, however, if Bush & Co. had given a little thought to the inevitable insurgency prior to being conned into invasion by PNAC and Chalabi. Much less expensive...
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