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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:35 AM
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Flight school, Med, Nursing school, where is the school for Presidents??
We send plumbers to Plumbing schools, even the brick layers must learn their trade at a school.

But for our leaders in America.... no need to have a certificate of passing a Presidential school or any kind of a "Leadership school" except that of a Military Institute like West Point. We suffer so much from this LACK of SCHOOLING...essentially, We RISK amateurs breaching the thin filters in place.

MBAs don't cut it as we look at Bushies wandering around the forest of new made up words and actions. Logic and Reason escapes the man, a classic sign something amiss.

I wonder:: How would Bush do in a 3 year program to produce LEADERS of this Nation from the Office of Mayor(Pop 1 mill +) and up? I wonder what kind of GPA would he get?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:37 AM
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1. Hell I'd be satisfied with a standard intelligence test.
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:45 AM
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2. some would say New Haven...
others Cambridge.

I want one from U of Michigan or other similar state school
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 12:25 PM
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3. I've always said this.
When I went for a job, I always was tested for my skills and knowledge. Then my past work experience was checked. Then and only then did I get an interview. We need to do this with our elected officials as well. No candidate should be allowed to throw their hat in the ring until they have been screened for competence to do the job, I think. Many disagree with me and says it will cultivate a class of privilege, like du-oh all I see are white men as Presidents up until now anyway. If we have to have a white man for President, at least let us get one who can do the job.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 08:59 PM
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4. In Honolulu Fire Dept, candidates must pass a written exam,
a physical endurance test called C Pak, an Interview, a Physical, a drug test, then a training period of 7 months learning apples to zenophobias(A to Z) all the while treated like the rookies they are. Not all make it in. Recent classes show a 10 percent expulsion rate.

I wonder if Bush would be among the 10 % if he was to apply and be accepted in the program?

If the Nation is far more important in terms of Value, what are we doing with testing our FireFighters much harder for their positions than the President by a huge disparity....? Why is this allowed to remain in our system.....looked at as acceptable and the notion of improving is rejected as UnAmerican????? Something stands in the way... that would be greed and selfishness.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 09:57 PM
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5. Zero. Point. Zero.


The best that can be said about George Walker Bush is that he is a drunken coke-whore whose addled moronic mind enabled deep psychoses to emerge as megalomania and sociopathy. I met a guy who said the Army tested his IQ during World War II and told him his was 91. That man is a BILLION times smarter than the smirking crazy monkey ever will be.



Regarding a school to help prepare people for the Presidency: Yes, that is called the school of life. Most everyone with parents who have the means to care for their families can be matriculated. What's needed are caregivers who cherish and nurture the development of an intense curiosity for life and all the wonders of creation and one's fellow human beings and creatures in a child; help them discover and appreciate the power of learning and scholarship and then encourage him or her to continue to develop the critical faculties throughout life; instill by example in them an appreciation and understanding of the value of real work and giving one's best in all matters great and small; know how to follow through on commitments and have an intense love for one's country and a deep belief in public service; and last, but not least, know and use the powers of self, belief and prayer.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:32 PM
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8. Octafish, wise words indeed. School of life......yes, attempt to train/
inspire/instill these thoughts you mentioned...somehow, if we can get it to an academic format for quicker consumption/digestion/
Comprehension/retention.......
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:02 PM
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9. Yours is an excellent idea: Find a method to cure his mindlessness.
The pukes have been trying with the little turd from Crawford for a long time before Selection 2000. Remember all of Poppy's advisors huddling around him trying to get him to remember, let alone pronounce, Musharaf's name.

Perhaps future presidents can attend an Academy. Like West Point. The thing is, when it comes to knowledge and learning, nothing for that turd will take.

Still, we need to try something. Perhaps...



A self-adminstered Vulcan mind-meld.

Brother Opihimoimoi, what do you think? Can all the arts of war, logic, adminstration of government, knowledge of law, understanding and vision be taught in a few years? You know, seeing it written down doesn't sound like all that bad an idea!

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:13 AM
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13. With an open mind...those who apply / accepted to Leadership Institute
will learn the principles of how to run a large city, a State, and a Nation...... in ways that produces a good living for their people.

On the surface, things look good in America but when we see the homelessness and the unemployed, the underemployed, the crime, the frustration, etc.,.....one has to wonder if we can do better.

Oasis, Kamaaina, and I are working on a book describing, among other things, efforts to minimize Dummies in the White House.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:15 PM
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6. Here
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 10:17 PM
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7. Many of our Presidents went to law school...
often useful for those that are making and enforcing laws.

We also had several that went to military academies...

Bush is the one and only MBA President.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:04 PM
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10. Many people feel "Law" is good but not quite enough. We deserve MORE
from those in charge.

We desperately need Leaders who have a wide and diverse knowledge base, especially in terms of benevolency and altruism. These kinds of leaders have better odds of making correct decisions and less of the counterproductive ones.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:11 PM
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12. I agree
Whatever the degree, we need leaders who've asked themselves the Big Questions; leaders who are not afraid of questions; leaders who are true intellectuals with broad knowledge. When did it become fashionable to ask "Who'd you rather have a beer with?" (Changed to "barbecue" for the Chimp...?) I want someone *smarter* than me as president, not somebody with all my limitations and certainly not some idiot who'd be "fun" among yahoos at a barbecue -- even with that question, I'd prefer somebody with something real to talk about, worth listening to.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:10 PM
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11. Gubernatorial Office. -NT-
Jay
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:04 AM
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14. Famous Reagan quote: " Everything I needed to know, I learned
in kindergarten. Academic intelligence is dismissed by the right as liberal, atheistic claptrap, because it enables us to see through their shell game.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 10:06 AM
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15. Republicans come from the school of Whose Your Daddy. eom
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:19 AM
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16. Republicans, as a whole, hate/fear things complex.
They want Simple Bush cause he talk like dem, tink like dem, and lie cheat steal like dem.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:29 AM
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17. As much as I'm loathe to defend MBA's...
...* isn't a particularly fair test of it. Most MBAs acquire some sort of practical experience after graduation. The efficacy of that is certainly open to debate, but * didn't get ANY. He just hopped from one figurehead, glad-hand-but-ignore-the-details position to another. I remeber at least one article noting how his approach was that of a fresh-graduated MBA (circa 1973, and exacerbated by his "gut"), not of an experienced businessman.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 11:31 AM
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18. Sheridan wrote about it...
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