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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:22 PM
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'Intelligent design' plans draw lawsuit
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'Intelligent design' plans draw lawsuit

By Amy Worden
KNIGHT RIDDER NEWS SERVICE

December 15, 2004

HARRISBURG, Pa. – Almost 80 years after the trial of Tennessee biology teacher John Scopes launched the landmark battle between science and religion, a lawsuit filed yesterday in Pennsylvania might reopen national debate over the teaching of evolution.

Two civil liberties groups, representing 11 parents in a community 25 miles southwest of here, sued the Dover Area School District seeking to block its introduction next month of "intelligent design" in the science curriculum.

The suit, which contends that the teaching of intelligent design violates the constitutional separation of church and state, is believed to be the first of its kind.

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041215/news_1n15evo.html

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:40 PM
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1. they haven't got a chance
there are so many holes in the intelligent design theorum, that in a decade it would be completely destroyed.

First of all, it is a false analogy to evolution. Evolution, the science and not a religion, has been up and down the scale of peer review, and thousands of papers written by reputable scientists, for 150 years already. It stands yet--and most reputable scientists accept evolution, although the pieces and dynamics are still being debated and peer reviewed

this "intelligent design" is nothing more than a re-introduction of Paley's watchmaker argument, put forth in the early nineteenth century and it has already been refuted, logically, almost ad infinitum by people who are clear thinkers, without the gag of religion over their mouths.

http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/watchmak.htm

It is interesting to me that naturally, the push for the intelligent designer is designed to push the Christian god--the god of the west, who , of course,in the ethno-centrism of Christians, is the most intelligent of them all. <sarcasm> I would bet that those who believe this ID postulate, imagine in their minds, the intelligent designer wearing white robes, with long blondish hair,a long beard, and a halo around his head. You can bet if intelligent design nonsense is taught in the schools, no way will another different intelligent ethereal being, such as an alien, or a martian, or , heaven forbid, an intelligent member of some animal kingdom be considered. HOwever the flaws in the argument provide for that.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:10 PM
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3. Except, they really do not care about facts or science
or even logic.

This has been the sad lesson of the elections: millions are willing to vote, and, supposedly, live on theories and fictions.

Of course, they know that someplace in the NE and in the West Coast there are intelligent successful people who will provide the safety net when needed.

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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 02:47 PM
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2. Intelligent Design should be taught as an example of "bad science."
--IMM
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:13 PM
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4. I disagree.
Cold fusion would be a good example of bad science. ID doesn't even get off the starting block.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 03:52 PM
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5. LOL. I can live with that kind of disagreement.
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