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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:23 AM
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How in the hell are we going to overcome this.
War, bankrupt government, Supreme Court stacked with repuke appointise, whats a person to do?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:37 AM
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1. Work. Speak out. Know you're not alone. Wait.
The bottom will fall out unless * can pull some magic out of his bag of tricks. He's been so busy salivating over four more years of destruction, he has no clue what America is really about or what Americans really think.

Our Starve the Beast campaign is working. The war is not tidying itself up. People are abandoning * in droves.

Yes, the bottom will fall out of his little world and then Democrats will make it right again.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:53 AM
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3. I'll say this, I trust the democrats
but it is going to be a long, hard and rough road. I hope we are up to the challenge.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 01:37 AM
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2. become Amish
and ignore it all.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:30 AM
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4. Ignore it I won't, become Amish I will not
I am an American and I worry about my children, grandchildren to come and the world as a whole.
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Pushed To The Left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:54 AM
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5. Never give up!
Progressive causes take time, but they have a history of winning in the end. Slavery has been abolished. Prohibition was ended. Minorities and women have the right to vote. Interracial marriage is legal. All of these things were considered extremely radical at one time, but progressivism won out. What we need to do is to keep supporting progressive causes and candidates, and to band together to defeat the radical right. And we can't give up! Our persistence will pay off eventually. It usually does for progressive causes.
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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 02:59 AM
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6. I'm getting older and hoping I live long enough to see this
The difference is now there are nuclear weapons and a NUT with his hand on the BUTTON.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:11 AM
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7. We Progressives have become the new Conservatives...
...We like change to come more slowly, steadily, and deliberately than the frenetic pace set by this unintuatively activist administreation.

God, let there be a critical mass of even tempered thinkers on this planet -- as power drunken fools go where angels fear to tread.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 03:23 AM
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8. The pendulum will swing back
... and knock the PNACers and fundies on their collective asses.

The rest of the Bush supporters will eventually turn against him and it won't be pretty.
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:08 AM
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9. It will be pretty...
...when the general public realizes how badly, boldly, & calculatedly the morality imposters have deceived.

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Ironpost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:21 AM
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11. A sight to be seen,
a moment to relish in, a pretty picture indeed. welcome to DU
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:31 AM
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13. Later or sooner...
...this sweet time wil come.

Thanks for the welcome.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:37 AM
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14. You might be right. But the "general public" has no real way to
fight the administration. All they can do is make there good comments of blog sites such as DU until that right is also taken away. I think that the coup d'etat is a fait accompli. Democratic government in the U.S. is OVER.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:14 AM
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10. Win local and state elections.
Local and state elections aren't so much infulenced by the republican squak-wankers. If we can re-establish the democratic party at the local and state level, we'll have at least one weapon to bring to bear in '08. Otherwise, I fear we'll go through the same old nonsense again.

You want to build a party that doesn't accept the DLC? Do it at the local and state level. Win local elections in '06. Use it to build a party for '08. Why do we need to re-invent the wheel every four years?
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 04:27 AM
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12. You're thinking too far ahead...
...the 2006 midterm election must be fired by a new enthusiasm from the left & Independents.

Bush is now trying to fix SS 30 years before it might have a problem. He wants to allow young people to "privatize" their stake in it.

Translation -- Bush is in bed with big insurance which wants to cherry-pick low risk clients, at the expense of pooling the most at-risk folks together.

Now there's democracy at work.

Bush has been bought & paid for many times over. He's kinda' like a Denny Krane who said, "I've had my head up the corperate ass so long that the entire world looks like a colon"
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 09:46 AM
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15. Perhaps the American decline is good for the world in the long run.
Unfortunately most of us live here and will suffer for it. American-style capitalism (monopolies & the fundamentalist sanctification of greed) is as toxic for the world as Soviet communism was, if not more so. I want t believe that America can be reformed, but barring revolution or economic catastrophe, I'm not at all sure how that will happen.
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