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Mon Dec-20-04 11:22 AM
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"They" must pay a price. "They" are all Arabs. "They" are all the same. That is why most voters voted for George Bush the last election. They supported Bush going after "them". When he said you are either with us or with "them", the people knew what he meant. Just as he divided the American people by Party, he divided the world into Arabs and everybody else. And the majority of Americans went along with him...because "they" attacked us.
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:25 AM
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Sometimes I think utter annihilation would do the human race some good.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:21 PM
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14. I hope they get the right targets next time... |
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..Should we draw them a map to the mini me Hitlers?
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:25 AM
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2. and "better we fight them over there then over here" |
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as if those are our only choices.
grrrr.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:26 PM
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17. Had a RW friend of mine say that.. ARRRRGGG!!!! |
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Mon Dec-20-04 01:52 PM
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29. I did to, and I told him "Well, you better get your ass over there, then" |
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If this war is so right, and if these terrorists will be fighting us in the streets of the US if we don't stop them in Iraq, then why the hell wasn't he over there defending this country?
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:42 AM
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3. Yep. I think anyone who voted for Bush is either motivated by |
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Greed and racism
Fundamentalism and racism
Fear and racism
The only way anyone can stomach what is happening in Iraq is if they've completely dehumanized the men, women and children of that country - projecting all their hatred and fear onto "the other"
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:44 AM
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4. Yes! It's so blatantly racist!! |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 12:15 PM by OnionPatch
I wonder why no one seems to talk about this aspect of the Iraq invasion. From the very beginning, to me, it was glaring, blatant racism! Would they have been able to say "Al Queda attacked us so we're going after.....the Slovaks" ? No! I hear people saying things like "We should just go over there and wipe them off the face of the Earth." I ask them, who are "they" and they will come right out and say, the Arabs, or Muslims. This is the most sickening aspect of our response to 9-11. I am saddened (not to mention embarrassed) that so many Americans are such racists.
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:45 AM
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5. I am afraid that "they" |
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 11:46 AM by G_j
to many, also includes "liberals".
edit... oh and the French too... :-(
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:47 AM
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6. I'm fearful that you may have a point... |
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:50 AM
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7. I know everyone will get angry at me for this... |
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but I can still remember 9/11 like it was yesterday and what happened afterward, when we were all just Americans, not separated by parties or any other preferences. I cried for a week. I was sitting there when the president said you are either with us or you are with them...he meant those who had just flown airplanes into three buildings and killed, at that time, untold numbers of our own people. And I agreed with him, anyone who says they weren't doing the same, to me, is lieing.
"They" were and are "terrorists", they DID attack us, and we have struggeled every day since then to make the peaceful Arabs and Muslims among us know we don't hold them responsible, many of them grieved as Americans right along beside us.
And to further anger some, I saw the division as it was comming back between us in America, it was brought on by both parties IMO.
Please everyone, don't make the loss of the lives of those innocent people, and some who were truely heroes, on that day any less of a tragedy than it was.
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Mon Dec-20-04 11:56 AM
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8. I think you missed the point of the post |
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"they" are not all Arabs, which is the dangerous ignorance the poster was trying to address.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:15 PM
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9. When Bush said " They attacked us " and he was trying |
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to make a connection between Iraq and 9/11 he lost all credibility in using the phrase.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:16 PM
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10. Then why did we attack Iraq? |
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:17 PM
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11. I'm confused...how are you defining "they"? n/t |
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:17 PM
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12. Apparently you don't remember it as well as you say you do. |
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Because if you did, you couldn't support the murder of 100,000 people in Iraq and the bigotry behind it.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:20 PM
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13. Brought On By BOTH Parties??? You Are Out Of Your Fucking Mind |
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Bat shit crazy. Give me one example of how the Democrats did anything except roll over for Bush after 9/11. They reached out and got their hands bitten off and steamrolled. They gave new meaning to the word pander and you say BOTH parties are responsible for the divisiveness??? Fuck that.
Don't even fucking talk to me about 9/11, I was there.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:22 PM
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15. when Bush said "you're either with us or against us" |
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many, many people very much disagreed with him, including me.
You are pushing the bogus notion that has achieved consensus in the ridiculous mainstream media, that "everyone" was behind Bush after 9/11.
DU is not a good place to push this crap, go back and look at the archives from that period, dissent was indeed alive and well, thank god.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:27 PM
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18. Not Angry At All! You Have My Sympathies |
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If you think the solution to what happened on 9/11 is to bomb the easiest targets in the Middle East, then vengeance and misplaced patriotism have fully clouded your judgement.
That doesn't make me mad. It makes me feel sorry for you. The Professor
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:37 PM
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21. You'll just have to nurture your assumption that people who didn't |
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agree with Chucklenuts are lying. I know it comforts people to believe that all Americans were joined as one during those days but it's a BIG FAT myth perpetuated by the media and the Bush administration.
Some of us were actually worried about the aftermath more...sorry, but true. Some of us were more concerned about how Shrub would use this tragedy to further his agenda. This doesn't mean we didn't grieve over the deaths that day...it just means we knew Shrub would use those deaths to attack America in his own way. So, no, I didn't feel connected to those Americans calling for revenge or embracing an illegally selected president like he was some kind of savior...not one particle of connection to them. Still don't.
"I was sitting there when the president said you are either with us or you are with them...he meant those who had just flown airplanes into three buildings and killed, at that time, untold numbers of our own people. And I agreed with him, anyone who says they weren't doing the same, to me, is lieing." - Mabeline
I didn't agree with him. He was wrong then and he's wrong now.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:46 PM
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24. It's not the people on this board making a mockery of the loss |
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of "innocent" life and heroes on that day.
You might want to google peacefultomorrows.org to see what the families of those lost innocent lives and heroes think we should be doing in response to what "they" did to us.
Their words and actions speak loudly and clearly regarding the "us vs. them" mentality that your president promoted in the immediate aftermath of that tragedy their tragedy more than anyone else's and still does to this day.
Oh, but I guess they're lying.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:56 PM
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25. Exactly who are the "terrorists" |
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And do you have proof/evidence of exactly who flew the planes?
If so, would you kindly present it in this thread, as no one here has ever seen or heard of such evidence.
TIA
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:07 PM
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:08 PM
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 02:10 PM by Jesus H. Christ
The first step in recovery is admitting you're a racist.
On edit: I guess the first step backwards is pretending you didn't just admit being a racist.
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:10 PM
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33. Awww, he nuked his own post |
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rather than all those Ay-rabs that had it comin' anyway.
Unless that was a miracle you performed right here in GD. :o
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Mon Dec-20-04 02:17 PM
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Edited on Mon Dec-20-04 02:19 PM by TyeDye75
ps this is my 100th post
I suppose I was racist for a short while
but id say it was also an emotional and confused response. As I originally said people were throwing around figures like 50,000 dead.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:24 PM
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16. yes, but don't speak of this |
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not nice to accuse god-fearing red-staters of bigotry.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:32 PM
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19. Nor is it nice to accuse the 45% of Shrub voters from blue states |
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They're all bigots in my book.
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:35 PM
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20. Attn: Repub Lurkers on DU |
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EXECUTE PLAN BLUE
EXECUTE PLAN BLUE
VALIDATE AT VRWC HQ AND ACKNOWLEDGE.
52-HH-KP
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:40 PM
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Mon Dec-20-04 12:58 PM
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26. Everyone needs an underdog to blame for "their" own troubles |
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Growing up in a big city you would always hear someone say "them, they, those" people on a daily basis.
My family came from the south and many of times people would refer to them as those damn hillbilly's are ruining our neighborhood. Which comes back to my, mine, ours vs them, their and those. If you ventured into another section of town and you would hear about those damn guys in that bath house are ruining the neighborhood. Still comes back to mine vs their way of life. Then you would travel a little bit over to the west and the people from Mexico would be blamed for one thing of another and their goes the neighborhood all over again. Mine vs Them. Go up a little bit further south and "them" well you know what I am getting to.
If people that are inadequate don't have someone else to hold accountable for their own misguided way of life they will invent someone and refer to them as "those" people. That way it makes it all better and they feel safe that way.
I still can't believe that half of the country is down right naive, prejudice or dumb. It's BBV because we don't have that much hatred in this country do we? :D
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Mon Dec-20-04 01:18 PM
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27. A matter of basic revenge and racism.... |
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Nuke 'em! We need to teach them a lesson they'll never forget. They will never dare to attack our country again. They are all "haji". Kill 'em all! I think that was the bottom line with millions of Bush supporters.
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are some seriously sick and rabid puppies...
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