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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:53 PM
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Something..to ponder for the people hurt
at Abu Gharib,


http://web.syr.edu/%7Ejisincla/killing.htm

"The hangman’s knot, the guillotine, the electric chair, the gas chamber, and the lethal injection were all designed to make deliberately inflicted death less painful to the victim. But I’ve never heard the inventors or the users of these technologies hailed as great humanitarians. I’ve never heard them praised for their great empathy toward the lives they’ve ended."


This message is so simple and so true..
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:57 PM
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1. The inventor of the gas chamber based it on the nazi death camps.
That's not a coincidence. He was one of the original "holocaust deniers." He was a real enthusiast for the subject. And the nazis didn't invent their gas chambers for empathy towards human suffering, they invented them to be more effecient than mowing people down with machine guns. The nazis weren't exactly great humanitarians.

What this has to do with Abu Ghraib I haven't the foggiest. The soldiers at Abu Ghraib had their prisoners bled to death from dog bites. Seems like a pretty painful way to go.

So I don't see how your message is either simple or ture.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:34 PM
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2. If you respect life
DO NOT KILL IT.
Don't torture living beings or abuse them if you RESPECT the living. Look the Iraqis are people similar to us just a different culture and way of doing things,they have emotions,loves,lives.But the dominator's of the world will not stand for pluralities. Especially ones that are not submissive.The Iraqis' country is occupied by our troops,who are confused don't want to be there,coerced or just brainwashed..a few might be sociopaths whether they are military or not(England for instance)All this death and suffering for some sick ass rich people's arrogant desire to be king of the world,(IMF) to harness it cage it,break it and use it up. The Iraqi's resources are being stolen from them,their museum was looted and artifacts sold to RICH MEN collectors.Iraqi culture is being twisted against their consent,by commercialism,invasion,reactions against too swift of a cultural shift(reactionaries)and these people resist us like any occupied threatened person would in that situation where their lives might be ended or they could be tortured and raped..Iraqis do not deserve torture ,Really no one does.
And if you can't figure out life does not want to die, Than I would argue some spark within you is lacking maybe..I put this article as SYMPATHY because I understand they do not want their lives and identities snuffed out, for satisfying the rich and powerful's desire for a one "normalized: hierarchically culturally everyone must be all the same a mono cultural planet under their domination and control..I don't understand what you don't get,did you just read the excerpt and not the link?

Please read the link and realize no one deserves to be tortured life resists being snuffed out,and life now in Iraq is being snuffed because the powerful find it uncomfortable,also life is being snuffed to get the powerful what they want,total domination over the world and it's peoples..
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