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Wed Dec-22-04 01:14 AM
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Was today the tipping point? |
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Is today the day that the insurgency really takes hold? At what point is the US "winning" again? Are we going to level Mosul the way we leveled Fallujah? Did we even level Fallujah?
IMHO, We're fucked.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:17 AM
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1. Doesn't really seem to matter to the bush lovers who, what and how |
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:33 AM
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7. REPUBLICANS DO NOT GIVE A F*** ABOUT THE MILITARY |
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Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 01:40 AM by Skittles
NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL
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Wed Dec-22-04 02:54 AM
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14. They sure don't...matter of fact they'd rather drop a nuke instead |
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of Paying for soldiers and equipment........
Hey, maybe they are LETTING things go so afoul so they CAN suggest a "final solution"???? Gawd knows the majority of Red/rethugs WANT to "dispatch" muslims anyway :scared:
I'm 'afeared' things may have turned a corner, but not so certain what will happen next, ya know....... =o/
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:23 AM
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2. The BushCo Inc. Imperial Occupation Forces are fucked..... |
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They are about to get their asses handed to them, big time.
It will be reminiscent of the choppers getting the last of the "dead enders" off the roof of the U.S. embassy in Saigon.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:24 AM
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3. The American people have to understand that this is a process. We are |
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so stupid. I only looks like a massive fuck up that is killing our friends, neighbors, parents, children. I we could just see the big picture as the president sees it, we could understand that death and torture are the surest and quickest path to profit...er... freedom.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:25 AM
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4. Nah. Today was just a particularly bad day in a string of bad days in a |
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string of bad months in a bad situation.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:27 AM
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5. In a particularly nasty game of whack a mole |
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who's the next mole after mojul.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:32 AM
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Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 01:33 AM by Must_B_Free
I'm sure they will damn the torpedoes, but it felt like a TET moment.
Todays attack was brazenly more damaging than anything so far. I am sure the numbers are higher than we're hearing; it was probably 20 soldiers dead on the spot and others lived long enough to get them in the air to Germany so they don't count in that statistic.
The fact that all they did was fire an RPG at a mess tent and it was the biggest attack makes you wonder, what's to stop them from doing it again tomorrow somewhere else. We're ducks on a log out there. It didn't even take a suicide...
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:38 AM
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9. Yes, Iraq's TET moment! |
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Iraq, where every move may be your last.
Welcome to Bush's new America.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 AM
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10. I think the Tet moment, actually, was Al-Sadr's first declaration of |
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open rebellion and the first time an organized insurgency seized control of several cities.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:37 AM
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8. No, maybe the tipping point might be |
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when we all walk away from our computers and do something about it. I'm not an organizer, but I'm more than willing to be organized. Where do you want me that will make the biggest, loudest commotion, because I think it's getting down to that.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:54 AM
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11. I've been wondering; if Bush's next 'Reichstag' event |
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happens to the military, instead of here in America to civilians, maybe even wiping out a significant number -- will it immediately motivate the draft?
He's catching more and more flack these days. The 'inauguration' is possibly on shakey ground. We've all been wondering "what's next?"... expected a major event even before Nov. 2. The October Surprise either naver happened as we feared, or else it was the dubious OBL tape, which was basically a dud.
It's not beyond them.
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Wed Dec-22-04 02:04 AM
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When you win an election by just over 1 percentage point, and when you go into it with a sub-50% approval rating, and when a month after re-election you still have a sub-50% approval rating, I wouldn't say anything that was popularly seen as slightly boosting you was a flat-out dud.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:56 AM
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:36 AM
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15. My Repub neighbors are all in shock. |
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"How could this happen?, " etc: "We'll get those dirty commies, or "towelheads." (or whomever it is we're fighting). Most of them have their heads so buried in the bible they dont know what reality is. Their mindset is that the "insurgents" are a group of about 20 or 30 deranged guys and we will surely wipe them out soon so that Achmed and family can vote republican and be materialistic like us. Racist pigs! They will NEVER be convinced the war isn't "winnable." After all, to them Bush is God Himself - infallible!
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Wed Dec-22-04 04:35 AM
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16. They are in shock because... |
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Our god is more powerful than their god and because of that, we cannot be defeated. It is right vs. wrong -- we are always right and they are always wrong.
Damn, you would have thought that this country would have learned something after Vietnam.
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Wed Dec-22-04 04:54 AM
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Wed Dec-22-04 04:56 AM
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After the Iraqi elections don't turn out like Afghanistan's elections did the Amerikan people will start getting negative about the situation in Iraq. Gutting Social Security, Medicare and plunging the states into a distressd economies will wake up the populace and they will start agitating their Congress critters. The Dems will start making noises about bringing the troops home and so will a large number of Rethugs. They don't want to lose their nice jobs. That's one posibility.
The other one is that the U.S. will remain in Iraq for another 4 years and the Amerikan people will mostly whine, softly.
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Wed Dec-22-04 05:03 AM
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19. BushCo did to Fallujah what Putin did to Grozny.... |
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When the truth comes out about the mass, indiscriminate slaughter...
There's going to be HELL to pay...
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Wed Dec-22-04 05:08 AM
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Most Amerikans don't give a damn about any Iraqi deaths, torture or maiming. They are almost all terrorists and the ones that were killed or maimed that were not terrorists were unfortunate in the wrong place, wrong time.
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Wed Dec-22-04 05:20 AM
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21. America did not countenance "Mai Lai" when that story broke... |
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What happened in Fallujah is on the scale of the rape of Nanking, the fire bombing of Dresden and the violent German put down of the Warsaw uprising in 1944.
The American Media is actively hiding the whole horror from the public.
I have faith in the goodness of Americans when they're properly informed.
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Wed Dec-22-04 06:55 AM
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22. I dread Christmas Day. Consider how precise and capable they |
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are getting inside the green zone and at the bases. It wouldn't take much for them to hit us all over the place on our holiest calendar day. I think things have changed but it will take a few more of these to make it permanent. UNFORTUNATELY.
RV, finding out today the tenth person I know who is going to Iraq.
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