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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:51 PM
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Is Al Zarqawi a Bush lie?
By John Doraemi

The Bush administration has attributed the bulk of the Iraqi resistance to a character named “Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.”

There are many people asking the legitimate question, does Zarqawi even exist? Given the credibility of Bush and company – the people who brought us phantom weapons of mass destruction, false links between Saddam and bin Laden, forged uranium documents, and a stack of other untruths – there is little reason to accept Bush’s super-boogeyman on faith alone.

As pointed out in the Asia Times (Oct. 15, 2004):

“Not a single source, anywhere, claims to have actually seen ‘Zarqawi’ since late 2001 in Afghanistan. Ask the Pentagon. Ask the CIA. Ask the Federal Bureau of Investigation. No one, on the record, is able to independently verify that ‘Zarqawi’ actually exists.”

Mainstream US corporate media has not challenged the administration on this point, nor on most of the other lies, distortions, omissions or obvious international crimes they have committed. Rather Reuters, ABC, and Washington Post have uncritically raised the phantom warrior to the status of a “Zarqawi movement.” Never mind they haven’t made the case for Zarqawi the person, alive and breathing.

"’We want to know what proof there is that Zarqawi is in Fallujah,’ Hatem Maddab, a member of a Fallujah negotiating committee, told Arabic Al Jazeera television (…) ‘Zarqawi is like the weapons of mass destruction that America invaded Iraq for,’ ‘We hear about that name (Zarqawi), but he is not here. More than 20 or 30 homes have been bombarded because of this Zarqawi and his followers but only women, children and the elderly have been affected.’"

Why doubt the official story?

Q: Just who has this alleged “Zarqawi” targeted primarily?

A: Iraqis.

Q: What is “Zarqawi’s” GOAL in Iraq at this time?

A: To trigger a civil war between Sunnis and Shi’ites.

"… ‘Zarqawi’ also released a statement - but with a different voice, saying he was determined to ‘ignite a civil war between Sunnis and Shi'is’. Curiously enough, that's exactly what US intelligence wants, a rehashing of the same old British maxim of ‘divide and rule’.”

- -Asia Times (Oct. 15, 2004)

Most people learned of the alleged existence of “Zarqawi” when Nicholas Berg was apparently beheaded in May of 2004. There are several serious problems with the Berg evidence, however.

1) The video that was allegedly put out by “Zarqawi” showed heavy editing, with a soundtrack completely out of synchronization from the images. Why?

2) The alleged voice of “Zarqawi” – a Jordanian national – did not have a Jordanian accent, according to CNN’s Arab language experts. (2)

3) The man in the video had two perfectly good legs, whereas the actual Jordanian Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was reported to have had his leg amputated.


4) Why would a man who deliberately identifies himself wear a black mask to shield his identity?

5) The “Zarqawi” in the video wore a golden ring, which is forbidden, and is a telltale sign that the killers were not Jihadists.

6) Nicholas Berg wore an orange jumpsuit – standard prison issue – so are we to believe that “Al Qaeda” fighters bring along US styled orange prison wear to clothe their victims in? For what possible reason?

7) This atrocity served the purpose of diverting media attention away from the Abu Ghraib torture abuse scandal, that had just shocked the world.


Zarqawi’s Dubious Existence Predates the Iraq War (II)

“Zarqawi” was introduced at the United Nations, by Colin Powell on February 5th 2003. Like most of Powell’s bogus information, Zarqawi’s role was also proven to be untrue.

Powell claimed that “Zarqawi” was the missing link between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. Powell also claimed that “Zarqawi” was running a poison and chemical warfare training camp in northern Iraq.

No evidence has ever come out linking Saddam Hussein to Zarqawi, or to bin Laden. Even Bush and Rumsfeld have admitted as much.

As far as the alleged chemical and poison laboratory is concerned:

“Ansar al-Islam - the Islamic group that uses the compound identified as a military HQ by Powell - yesterday invited me and several other foreign journalists into their territory for the first time. 'We are just a group of Muslims trying to do our duty,' Mohammad Hasan, spokesman for Ansar al-Islam, explained. 'We don't have any drugs for our fighters. We don't even have any aspirin. How can we produce any chemicals or weapons of mass destruction?'"

- The London Observer's correspondent in Northern Iraq, February 9 2003

After the camp was destroyed by cruise missiles, US inspectors also came to the same conclusion:

“A specialized biochemical team scoured the rubble for samples. They wore protective masks as they entered a building they suspected was a weapons lab. Inside they found mortar shells, medical supplies, and grim prison cells, but no immediate proof of chemical or biological agents.”

- - Jim Sciutto, ABC News, with US Special Forces in Northern Iraq " (ABC News, 29 March 2003)

This alleged chemical weapons story is even more bizarre than it appears. When Colin Powell tells the UN, and the world, that this camp is evidence of Saddam Hussein’s connection to Islamic terrorists, he neglects to tell us that the camp was in the Kurdish “no fly zone”, and not controlled by Saddam’s forces at all. The area was a US protectorate!

“Zarqawi” has been a creation of US foreign policy, a myth, a fable, the most convenient man in Bush’s alleged “war on terror.” A face for the American public to focus on now that there is no Saddam or Bin Laden conviniently available in Iraq. Much like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy “Zarqawi” is a mythical creature that leaves gifts for those in position to take advantage of them. He is a manufactured enemy, built to specifications, and his presence ensures outrage and an escalation of the conflict.

I do not believe in Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.

http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2004%20opinions/October/24o/Is%20Zarqawi%20Another%20Black-Op%20By%20John%20Doraemi.htm

http://mprofaca.cro.net/al_zarqawi.html#zarqawi
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:57 PM
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3. So you're gullible enough 2 believe the US media over 12 overseas papers?
Man, are you in a rabbit hole? I just gave you a link that has about 50 cross links to papers from all over the world. Take off those rose colored glasses and take the blue pill sniper!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:07 PM
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13. Well, when they come from the Heritage Foundation . . .
. . . one has to wonder.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:05 PM
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12. Yeah OK, I suppose London wants to knock us down too? India as well?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:10 PM
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18. Maybe you should sign up and go find out
My nephew in Baghdad tells me they really could some help. There is an average of 3 postions a day to fill.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:58 PM
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5. I've found them to be as legitimate as most Fox broadcasts.
Surely you would agree, being a connoisseur yourself?
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:10 PM
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19. I'm not a connoisseu I just hunt down my own suspicions.
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:10 PM by nascarblue
When I saw that video, the timing of it, etc. I had my doubts so Ive looked into it. You must admit it makes some valid points. Plus, Bush is so predictable with his terror alerts, bin laden videos, etc. Like how about that fake Bin Laden video that was released on Dec. 14th 2001? If they'd fake a Bin Laden video, fake a Niger Uranium report, etc. They'd fake Al Zarqawi.

I just know how much the MSM hides the truth. Hell, Democracy now's Amy Goodman has done two reports on Al Zarqawi and the high probability that he's a myth. Believe me, I've seen that in many western publications. Its not just overseas.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:23 PM
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26. Examples? I read it everyday as I do CNN, Latimes, NYTimes..
And in many cases find it quite a bit more informative. Watch a controversial topic on AJ and, quite often, wait a month and the same stories bubble up into the likes of the Guardian, Truthout, ect.

Take the Napalm issue in falluja. It first came out and now we're finding out that that was probably more than true.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:25 PM
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27. I was being sarcastic.
Sorry. snipe hunter brought it out in me.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:59 PM
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8. So you just ignore the facts? Is that it?
Come on, who's been proven to hide the truth? who's been proven to lie about al jazeera? Are you a robot? LMAO!
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:26 PM
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28. Oh come on please - show me a reliable US mainstream media source
I would love to hear this one. You mean CNN? La Times?

One rule of law in every war throughout history:

The side that started the conflict, especially in the case of colonialism, is always telling the most lies to it's people.

Public Opinion terrifies them more than anything and they will stop at nothing to keep it turned their way.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:48 PM
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31. Obviously, you didn't read my post closely
You're preaching to the choir my friend.

American media is the most pathetic piece of shit - especially in war time.

Thanks NYTimes for mentioning the voter recount congressional hearings.

Thanks a whole lot
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hangemhigh Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:54 PM
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2. Many believe OBL
has been dead since 2001. Personally, I think alive or dead, he was NOT the perpetrator of 911. Wolfowitz/Cheney et al, were.
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Osamasux Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:58 PM
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6. Whatever floats your boat.
:tinfoilhat:

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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:57 PM
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4. I don't either. Riverbend says the Iraqis laugh when they hear that
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:00 PM by neweurope
name.

You sure came up with a lot of facts, I'm impressed. Thank you!

:yourock:

And whether Osama bin Laden is alive or not - I am conviced he still gets his orders from the bushistas.

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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:03 PM
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11. Thanks, ever since I saw that fist video, I knew...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:04 PM by nascarblue
Its just so obvious. When poor Nick gets beheaded, you can tell he's been dead for awhile. They made it seem like he was still alive. And the really spooky thing is the fact that in the video, it really looks like Abu Ghirab when he's still alive. THey even had the same plastic Target chairs. And one thing they don't mention in that article is the fact that Al Zaqawi mentions the photographs. This doesn't fly with the timeline of when Nick Berg dissappeared.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 PM
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15. It's one of the oldest tricks - kill somebody and say the other guy did it
And it still works every time - well, for most people, anyway
*sigh*
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 PM
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14. al-Zarqawi is dead
"Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniyah mountains of northern Iraq during the American bombing there, according to a statement circulated in Fallujah this week (March 4, 2004) and signed by the “Leadership of the Allahu Akbar Mujahedeen.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:09 PM
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17. They have to blame somebody. They need to keep it linear
and define the problem as heros and villains. Otherwise you confuse the stupid of the USA who support this war and the chimp who caused it.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:28 PM
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22. OK you doubters, check this out...
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:45 PM
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25. GWB would rather lie than eat pretzels.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:55 PM
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30. Exactly
The al-Zarqawi Assessment:
Another Instance of 'Cooked' Intelligence?

A collection of articles compiled by the Project on Defense Alternatives



http://www.comw.org/pda/0410zarqawi.html
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:39 PM
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32. Psy-Ops
Bush and the Neo Fascists passed up three opps to assasinate al Zarqawi because he was part of their claim about terrorist ties to Saddam. They knew this was a fuckin' lie. Now if al-Zarqawi actually exists and is responsible for over 700 deaths, it is indirectly a responsibilty of the US Neo Fascists.

The CIA is infamous for dis-info and Psy-Ops. Nick Berg was a sacrificial lamb. He was killed then be-headed to offset the widespread Torture policies of the Bush Junta.
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Caledonia Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:29 PM
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33. Dunno
I haven't heard him mentioned for a couple of weeks now. Maybe they are thinking up a new bogeyman. I could never understand how the media had his name on the screen 15 minutes after an event. Saddam replaced OBL, Zarqawi replaced OBL, who's next?
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