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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:26 AM
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Franken's Book: He's Gotta Be a DUer!
I'm halfway through "Lies..." and I swear, it's a friggin' litany of DU anti-BFEE gripes! This guy (along with 'Team Franken') doesn't miss a thing. I'd love to see him tete-a-tete with Hannity or O'Reilly now--of course, that'll never happen. But, I'd sure love to see Coulter or any of the other RW pundits he skewers try to refute Franken's methodically catalogued list of their lies.

How many other DUers have read this brilliant book?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:27 AM
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1. Harry it's been the talk of the town
for the last week--whereya been?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:56 PM
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12. Just got it in the post from Amazon yesterday...
...I'm a little slow on the draw, I guess.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:36 AM
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2. I'm picking it up today
After all of the buzz I've seen here, I can't wait. I have two $25 B&N gift cards. Anyone have any suggestions on what else I should pick up?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:57 AM
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10. I got mine at Target......
It was 30% off. I think I paid a little over $17.00. There was only one left then and that was Monday.
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Narraback Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:06 PM
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16. Me to. I bought mine today at Target.
It was the last on one the shelf.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:15 PM
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31. Costco
$14 and change. I just started it-funny as hell!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:04 AM
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11. Conason or Alterman
best facts for refutations
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:59 PM
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13. The Clinton Wars
by sydney blumenthal

LONG but SO well written. it will infuriate and educate.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:03 PM
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14. Got mine yesterday
And I am psyched to read it. The second chapter is titled Ann Coulter: Nutcase. There is also a copy of O'Reilly's voter registration card. :kick:
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Fixated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:39 AM
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3. ...
I've read it twice now, the second time to try and absorb the facts a little more. Who has read Conason's "Big Lies"? I'm about to pick it up and I'm wondering about it's goodness.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:45 AM
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9.  Get Big Lies - It's grrrreat and one more not to be missed
book is Jerry Hightower's 'Thieves in High Places'. Hightower's book is red meat. I'm reading it now. He really nails the BFEE.

I've read just about every book written by the left in the last 2 years and these are among the best. Oh, almost forgot Alterman's 'What Liberal Media'.

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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:35 PM
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20. I read Big Lies first.
It basically covers the same issues with more depth and without so much funny. Actually, Franken thanks Conason for writing a book that he just had to add jokes to.

"Big Lies"- Highly recommended.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:40 AM
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4. I just finished it this morning (Lies that is)
Fantastic book.

I'm starting on "Blinded by the Right" now.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:49 AM
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25. Blinded by the Right
I read it. although there is good info and insight in the book and I do recommend it to people.... I found that the overall "tone" whined a great deal about how he was "duped"
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:07 PM
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28. alot of people were "duped"...
...and only a few were big enough to admit it. I admire David Brock because his was a tough struggle, $$$ or truth. You'd be surprised how many choose $$$...
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:42 AM
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5. it's very good
but it's just funny to me how mainstream sees franken as some left wing nutcase and to me, he's a sarcastic moderate who sees the bush cabal for what they are... i don't see him as a leftist... ESPECIALLY since he supported the war...
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:08 PM
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29. me too Newsguyatl
It's funny that he considers himself a liberal--I think he's more a left-leaning moderate. He's probably reacting to the contrast effect we've all experienced, where we've been made to feel "extreme" by people who are extremely right wing.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:42 AM
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6. If not him...one or more of the members of "Team Franken"
Or so it seems.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:43 AM
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7. Anyone here read Scott Ritter's book? n/t
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:03 PM
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27. Endgame?...yes i read it...he has a new one coming out though
a good read it was too
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:44 AM
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8. I have it on hold in the lirary as of yet
Can't wait though!
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:06 PM
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15. I finished it two days ago.
Definitely one of the best. My second best anti-RW read was "Blinded by the Right" by David brock.
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Impeach Whistle Ass Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:06 PM
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17. Only buying it because franken's so damn funny
Certainly not buying his book for information or education. It wouldn't tell me anything I didn't already know about Bush, Fox News, and reTHUGlicans.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:16 PM
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32. I remember an Al Franken SNL Weekend Update skit from 1988...
...which combined a "bar bet" stunt w/ wishful thinking. The "bar bet" stunt was the ability to draw the US (by individually drawing each of the 48 contiguous states) in under 2 mintues (which he did), combined with a commentary on how Dukakis would win the election electorally because of liberal affiliations, et. al...

Searching for the SNL transcript now...
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:08 PM
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18. I am haflway through it myself...
and have loved every word....it's funny and yet as I read I want to cry.

As far as some type of debate, I would love to see Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity et al challenged by "Team Franken" of some sort..it would be a ratings blockbuster!!!!!!!!!!!1
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:32 PM
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19. Little local bookstore in Seaside, Florida,
Sun Dog Books. Reading it now. It is a hoot. My niece also bought one.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:36 PM
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21. Franken and debates
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 02:42 PM by Hamlette
I don't think it's his style. His humor doesn't work in a debate and that's what he's best at. IMHO.

The debate I'd love to see is Conason and ANY right wing loonie.

As for other books don't forget the oldies but goodies: The Hunting of the President and A Vast Conspiracy. Everyone should know the history of what the right wing did to Clinton.

And yes, Blinded by the Right and The Clinton Wars are must reads.

I'd also like to think that Franken is NOT a DUer. That way I know lots more than just us are picking up on all the crap.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:41 PM
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22. I think he reads DU, too.
He actually credits bartcop in his book, so he might just read that. :shrug:

There are tons of funny parts that we've discussed, but remember from the Hannity chapters when he's ridiculing that ridiculous chart from "Let Freedom Ring" that supposedly proves that Clinton was anti-military? He lists the number of new tanks requested by Clinton and Franken points out that after the Cold War, the need for new tanks was much less and he designs a chart that compares how many horses Reagan requested (3) and how many Lincoln requested (hundreds.) See? Reagan was anti-military, too.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:43 PM
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23. I just finished reading it
There are too many good books out.

My next is WRP - The Greatest Sedition is Silence

I still need to get books by Alterman, Blumenthal, Hightower, etc.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 05:31 AM
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24. I think so too, Harry
The book is packed with logic that is sourced and funny as hell. It reads like a good DU thread.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:00 PM
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26. Franken's book is great! Iran is the BFEE's next target you must read
"All The Shah's Men" by Stephen Kinzer...about the Iranian coup of 1953 and how our CIA and Kermit Roosevelt did their dastardly deeds on the Iranian people...reads like an exciting page-turning spy novel...except it all real .....it deals with the hard issues of today!

Brit's and we Americans should blush with shame
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 02:10 PM
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30. I liked the part about the pig shit
page 334
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