Pastor TD Jakes on CNN's American Morning 12/24

[Patsy Stone]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/american.morning/

Pastor TD Jakes will inspire you with his reflections on the holidays. Tune in starting at 7 a.m. ET

WHY????

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Somehow I think I would not be very inspired

if I were to watch in the first place. Which I won't. :puke:

[EX-CONservative]

2. Is Jesus Broke Again?

Jeez, Jesus sure needs a lot of money thee days!

What is old JC doing? Cheating on Mary Magdalene with PARIS HILTON?

:-))

[ClintonTyree]

4. Christians sure can't handle money very well....................

they're always begging for more. What ever happened to the Religious Conservatives? The same thing that happened to garden variety Conservatives I guess. They've been co-opted by the neo-cons in the name of Party loyalty. Christians are being co-opted by the Fundies in the same fashion. Neither one of them can handle money very well. They always want more, more, more. There are courses they can take to educate them on the subject. Something tells me they're not interested in learning though.

[TWiley]

3. I know why

Because God tortured and killed his only son to inspire himself to forgive everyone else for being the humans he created?

[Enraged_Ape]

6. Wow

That's the most succinct summary I've ever read of the "born-again Christian" line, and it illustrates quite briefly and effectively the problems I've always had with that.

[TWiley]

13. I have largely found their arguments to be incoherent.

I do not believe that I have ever heard a reasoned response. I have only heard verbiage from tracts and televangelists. Their ideas seem to fall apart under the scrutiny of even the most delicate and sincere questions posed.

I guess this is why it must be accepted as truth through faith alone.

If this belief genuinely improves the life of the individual, then I suppose it is a good thing for "that" individual. If it becomes the goal of conservative organizations to inflict these arguments upon our nations children in schools, then it becomes an entirely different matter.

[JNelson6563]

10. Not very "all-loving, all-knowing", is it?

I'd like to think the most enlightened being ever would be able to come up with something less gruesome. Play to people's good and love within, not inflict major guilt trips through slaughter of the supposed only true innocent to walk the face of the earth.

Julie

[TWiley]

12. Maybe it is a "sacrifice" story.

Human, plant, and animal sacrifices were common during the holy old days. Maybe it is told like this because it is in a context the barbaric would understand.

[xultar]

5. TD Jakes is one of the three horsemen who told the Blacks in ATL

to vote for *.

He's a false prophet.

[Jazzgirl]

8. Xultar, you are being much too kind.

I live in the DFW area. I know many people "blinded" by this a**hole. Someone that used to be a good friend of mine got caught up in the Jakes Revival scene. We trained (bodybuilding) together for a couple of years before this. I had done a little reading up on TD and also had some friends with close ties with people who worked for him. He is an opportunist and a con-artist. My friend and his wife constantly badgered me to go to the church with them but I wouldn't. It ended up costing the friendship.

JG

[Ezlivin]

9. DFW = Buckle of Bible Belt

When I lived in Memphis I thought I was in a theocracy, but DFW is way ahead of those boys and girls.

This place is saturated with Prosperity Gospel Fundys like Jakes. I think they breed them in Dallas, then put them on the range. We've got the nutcases like Kenneth Copeland (with his private jet and airport just outside of Fort Worth), "Dr" John Avanzini, Jerry Savelle and the special cocksucker Mike Murdock.

The only time these guys get their dues is when they are caught with their cock in a hard place; even then, they often "repent" and are back on television in days (see: Jimmy Swaggart).

[JNelson6563]

11. Special points if you can tell me who

filed a brief with the SC on Swaggart's behalf. Hint: They claim to have no part of "the world" yet will go to court to keep their publishing business tax-free. In other words, high in the ranks of "Christian" hypocrites.

Julie

[Patsy Stone]

7. Rod Parsley

That's who the should have had on if they wanted to spread hate in God's name.

I didn't watch, but I wonder how much did TD Jakes sweat?