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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:11 AM
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New Zogby...Bush approval just 45% ...reelect 40%...GREAT NEWS!!!
Check it out! Nothing but bad news for the Thief in Chief!
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President George W. Bush’s job performance ratings have reached the lowest point since his pre-Inauguration days, continuing a steady decline since a post-9/11 peak, according to a new Zogby America poll of 1,013 likely voters conducted September 3-5.

Less than half (45%) of the respondents said they rated his job performance good or excellent, while a majority (54%) said it was fair or poor. In August Zogby International polling, his rating was 52% positive, 48% negative. Today’s results mark the first time a majority of likely voters have given the president an unfavorable job performance rating since he took office.

A majority (52%) said it’s time for someone new in the White House, while just two in five (40%) said the president deserves to be re-elected. Last month, 45% said re-election was in order, and 48% said it was time for someone new.

--more--

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=732



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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:14 AM
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1. And this is with MAXIMUM propping-up
Zogby probably had to run six different "random" samples to come up with even these pathetic results.

Mr. Rove's not gonna like this.
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:10 PM
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15. Zogby is a registered Democrat
Why would he run six samples? He's an honest man.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:32 PM
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30. James Z. part of Gore's campaign
I just read this yesterday, and wonder what the connection is between John and James Zogby.
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:39 PM
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34. I can explain it to you
John Zogby is the head of Zogby Polling, I believe. James Zogby is the head of the Arab American Institute.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:46 PM
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35. They're brothers
eom
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:14 AM
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2. Wow!
I'm eager to see the various other polls. I'm waiting for the majority of them to show approval and reelect both below 50%.

If and when that happens, will the press continue to refer to him as popular and unbeatable? Will the continue to sneer at or dismiss the Democratic candidates? For a while, I suppose, but at some point they'll have to give that up.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:57 PM
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22. MSRNC reffered to him as popular today.
I almost shot the TV. CLinton had a 67% approval rating at the height of impeachment, and not once did I hear the right wing media refer to Clinton as popular.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:44 PM
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31. Now we know that when they say "popular" they mean
popular with me.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:50 PM
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36. They're so out of touch
I imagine they'll shed puddles of tears if their boy Chimpy loses.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:16 AM
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3. This is GREAT, but
who thinks Bush and Rove will stand still while their support plummets?
If you look at raw poll data, Bush spikes across the board after a war. This poll is bad news for countries like Syria and Iran. I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't put it past them.

In the meantime, WOO HOO for a poll that shows only 2 in 5 would vote to re-select Bush!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:16 AM
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4. It's To The Point, It Would Be Embarrassing
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 11:16 AM by otohara
to admit you'd vote for the guy.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:17 AM
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5. It won't matter
A propoganda movie and another terrorist attack will bring those numbers right back up.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:22 AM
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8. Very sad and very very true.
IMO we will be at war for a very long time. Folks who wish to avoid the draft should start seeking treatment for chronic illnesses now To avoid suspicion.

Feeling blue, how about some Prozac? That cough getting worse, you definitely need to get that asthma medicated before you end up in the ER. The beauty is that you can flush these meds until about a month before your physical.
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:25 PM
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20. I don't think it will work.
We're not seeing any yellow or orange alert dealies anymore, because the public started to feel they were being used. After Bush launched the war with iraq, he recieved a bounce. It wasn't that big, maybe 10 points. After Uday and Qusay died, another bounce. Even smaller, 5 points. If he tries something now, I don't think it will work, and it might even work against him.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:21 PM
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33. Yes, people don't like being killed to further someone's ambitions.
Given enough time and dead lemmings strewn all about the Bush precipice even the most dedicated wingnut will get a self-survival clue (or two).
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:19 AM
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6. no wonder the idiot is giving a speech
wonder if he's planning on taking "questions" again?
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:39 AM
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43. I can see it now:
"Mr. Bush, do you have time for any questions?"

Yes. Bring em on.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:21 AM
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7. One Orange Alert, coming up . . .
. . . any day now.
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:27 AM
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9. Fan
fucking-tastic!!!!!

:toast::bounce::party:
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SnohoDem Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:31 AM
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10. Expect a bounce when he announces they "found the WMD" n/t
n/t
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:41 AM
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12. GMTA
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:40 AM
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11. I should be jumping for joy, but....
considering that when the fu@ker loses in '04 we are still left with the duanting task of figuring out what to do with Iraq and undoing the damage that the chimp has done to us in less than three years.

We're going to be licking our wounds for a long time to come.


The joy of the moment escapes me.

May he rot in hell.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:43 AM
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13. Calling ProfGAC! Calling ProfGAC!
RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! CONGRATS!
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:55 AM
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14. He was right. I will never dout him again
Oh, thats right. I damn near forgot. I never did dout him. Must be something about them guys like ProfGAC who live in Illinois. :-)

Don

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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:38 PM
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21. Approval rating been dropping since Sept 02
64%
54%

53%


52%








45%

Time for buildings to fall and/or people to die in another illegal invasion to prop Chimpboys numbers back up.

David
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:10 AM
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46. Who, what, is ProfGac?
I want to know who was right before his/her time... if that is what you mean.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:13 PM
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16. I'm grinning so huge right now.
That is great news!
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:15 PM
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17. This explains his propaganda speech on Sunday..
It also explains why Condi is making the Sunday shows rounds.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:20 PM
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18. And we have no one to thank but ourselves
Drip drip drip--It seems like a decade ago when I first read that phrase here. But now there's been enough drips to form a quagmire too deep and too dirty for the Pretzel-Dunce to get out of with just a speech or a photo op. Between the UN not knuckling under in the wake of the bombing and the PR failure of his Labor Day speech, he realizes that he's at a critical turning point. Even if he was to announced they found WMD on Sunday, he'd still have to convince they were deployable to the U.S. within 45 minutes?


rocknation

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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 12:21 PM
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19. Niiiice.
:-) Lowest. Numbers. Ever.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:00 PM
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23. Like Father....Like Son.....
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:13 PM
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24. WOW!! 40% reelect!! That's unfrigginreal!!!
:7
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:14 PM
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25. Zogby's polls are the most accurate, I have found.
:)
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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 05:00 PM
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37. Wasn't the Zogby poll closest to the actual results in 2000?
Well, before the Fab Five appointed *.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:36 PM
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26. It won’t be long until they call out the BBB.
Baker, Babs and Boyden. When things really hit the fan they call out the heavy artillery grown-ups to fix things.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:49 PM
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32. LOL! Heavy artillery indeed!
If it wasn't for my respect for NSMA, I'd have a term for Babs...anyway, funny post!
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DeaconBlues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:45 PM
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27. Oh-oh, time to pull the body of one of Saddam's
doubles out of the freezer. ;-)

We sure have come a long way since Bush's numbers were a Stalinesque 92%. Maybe there is hope for this country after all.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:00 PM
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28. IT'S BEEN DONE
finally. he's below 50%.

brothers and sisters, the tide has now completely turned.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:09 PM
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29. Whatever shrub tries to do to bring his polling numbers up
whether it's starting a war, making the tax cuts "permanent", or whatever, is going to have very, very little effect on his approval rating. The public has been wiseing up, and they continue to do so. I really think he's on a one-way trip to the cellar. Except for a strong economic recovery that INCLUDES JOBS (and this is NOT going to happen), there's just absolutely no way out of this hole.
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:23 PM
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38. Kick
This is too good to let go by.
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:23 PM
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39. Kick
This is too good to let go by.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 10:50 PM
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40. That is what this speech is about tonight
Look for

FEAR

to be the hot topic!!!
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:29 AM
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41. gotta kick this!!!
:kick:
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:35 AM
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42. WOOOOO HOO!
My neighbor just came in and asked me "Why the f*** are you blasting the Hallelujah chorus at <various expletives deleted> 11:30 in the <deleted> morning?"

"Bush's poll numbers are below 50%."

"Oh. Carry on then."

I love being at a liberal college.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:02 AM
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44. Before celebrating too much take a look at Pollkatz
The pollkatz graphs of all polls show that Zogby is sort of an outlier,,,consistently showing worse numbers for Bush than the other polls.

The general trend is downward, but the "consensus" is that Bushes unfavorables may not be as low as Zogby indicates
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:10 AM
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45. As I recall,
Zogby has always been pretty accurate. Zogby has always been one of the most reliable polls, notwithstanding.

Frankly, I think they have all been fudged all along, but now they are just getting to hard to fudge.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:10 AM
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47. The same Zogby poll shows Dean leads 16% among candidates
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 11:12 AM by Woodstock
From the 9/6 release:

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=732

In the same poll, likely Democratic primary voters give a plurality of their support to former Vermont Governor Dr. Howard Dean (16%), whose campaign has been gathering support in recent polling. He is followed by Massachusetts Senator John Kerry (13%), Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman (12%), and Missouri Congressman Richard Gephardt (8%). No other candidate polled more than 3%.
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