Dangerman
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:52 PM
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If Al Gore were in the White House, would 9/11 would have not happen?
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democraticrevolution
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:55 PM
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1. To answer your question |
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If Al Gore were in the White House 9/11 would have probably still happened. It's how you deal with it after that may have been different. Alas, this is all speculation and we deal with the reality of what the current President as done.
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:56 PM
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9/11 was planned for YEARS... what makes you think Al Gore would have stopped it?
Does he have a crystal ball and a magic cape?
No one saw that coming - not during Clinton's administration nor in *'s.
IMHO... no one saw it coming - because no one could imagine such carnage. Remember how you reacted that day... stunned...
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:04 PM
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6. 2001 had SEVERAL warnings. Clinton warned STUPID Bush about the Taliban |
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Bush ignored the evidence. Planning takes years, but does not come onto the radar screen until they get ready to attack. Ashcroft is on tape as saying, "I don't want to hear anything about terrorists" he ignored the warnings.
Ashcroft will hopefully rot for eternity in hell...because his soul already lives there.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:12 PM
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9. Bush had several specific warnings |
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"No one saw that coming - not during Clinton's administration nor in *'s."
BWA HA HA HA HA HA LOL LOL HEE HEE HEH HEH HEH WHEW!
Clinton talked about terrorism non stop since the Oklahoma City bombing. Clinton was gathering an anti-terrorist coalition at the UN the very same day the corporate media broke the Monica Lewinsky scandal. He attacked Bin Laden TWICE, while the Republicans screamed "wag the dog". Democrats screamed and shouted about the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. He bombed Saddam Hussein on numerous occassions.
Fuck this revisionism - I was there. I still have all the damned newspaper articles.
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TwentyFive
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:57 PM
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Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 08:58 PM by TwentyFive
9/11 was a huge undertaking, and the WH had planty of advance warning...even with clues as to WHO was planning it, and HOW they planned to do it...flight schools and everthing.
WH ignored all the evidence. I think it was deliberate because it would give Bush the perfect excuse for going to war.
In Bush's defense, I don't think he believed it would be as big as it was. Bush probably wanted a smaller scale attack...but his friend Osama surprised him. In fact, even Osama was surprised at how successful the attack was.
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:58 PM
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4. I think 9/11 had been planned for several years; |
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had Gore been prez, the results would have been a helluva lot different. OBL might have been caught, Iraq wouldn't have been attacked, we might have had some friends around the world.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:24 PM
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13. The pieces didn't get moved into place until summer. |
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So if by planned, you mean that they had been toying with the idea for a few years, no doubt it is true. But the nuts and bolts of it, the meat, if you will, played out during the spring and summer.
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babylonsister
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:55 PM
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15. I know that, but the original question was whether |
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Al Gore would have made a difference. I think not, because this action had been planned and executed regardless of who was in power at the time. Does not dispute the fact that Condi and the Smirker might have made a valiant difference if they had done something, ney, anything different than what they did. My contempt is inestimable.
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Sun Dec-26-04 08:58 PM
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5. Well, the United States certainly had enough bad karma |
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stored up by 2001 to make it possible, Bush or no Bush.
However, if you believe it was MIHOP, the answer quickly changes.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:05 PM
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Bush was installed so 9/11 could be exploited.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:15 PM
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11. 911 happened the week before the Florida recounts were to come out |
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I was searching the newspapers everyday for months before, waiting for the results of the WSJ/WP/NYT/LA recounts. The day after 911 the papers reported that they would suppress the study, because, quote, "no one cares anymore".
If I was the suspicious type, I'd be suspicious.
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Mon Dec-27-04 01:28 AM
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911 happened almost one year after the election. Was someone still doing a recount that late?
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Minstrel Boy
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Mon Dec-27-04 01:31 AM
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The media consortium recounting Florida was due to publish its findings, and after the attack decided not to.
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Sun Dec-26-04 11:59 PM
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16. maybe 911 was to coverup the bush 'installation' aka coup |
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we think like the movies teach us to think, that there are wise, though evil, men behind so much that's going on....kissinger, for example, is shown as a vain stupid pretentious bully who had all the blessings of birth education etc...yet what has he done except advance the cruel wasteful neocon agenda? same with oldbush, and characters like reagan goofball george shultz? or richard melon scaife, rupert murdock, you could name bigshots for hours and the fact remains a petty crook who even common labourers can honestly despise sits in the white house, having lied and killed to get there, w/out a peep from a class of pigs who need to be shot, nothing else
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:10 PM
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8. It most likely would have happened...... |
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....but the invasion of Iraq almost certainly wouldn't have happened.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:12 PM
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10. Even if the attack still did take place, |
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I do not believe that
1)President Gore would have sat frozen with indecision in an elementary school for half an hour.
2)Vice-President Lieberman (hard to wrap my brain around that one) would have been down in the bunker giving out orders.
3)Secretary of Defense would have been out playing Florence Nightingale rather than making sure he was constantly accessible by phone.
4)National Security Advisor would have been more concerned about the President's initial message to the nation than securing any planes still in the air.
5)Chairman of the Joint Chiefs would have been shut up in a meeting with strict orders not to interrupt.
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:21 PM
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fundamentalist Islamic terrorism was issues NUMBER ONE.
under Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft, it was not even on the radar.
and worse than that, funding was cut AND agencies were told to back off investigation of Saudi nationals.
an expedicted visa program, only for Saudis, was established quickly by Bush/Cheney allowing Saudi terrorists to easily enter the US.
would Gore/Lieberman have prevented 9/11, impossible to know. but, it is NOT impossible to know that events WERE prevented under Clinton/Gore and that 9/11 happened under laxed focus on the terror threat until AFTER the strikes.
and remember always, WHO BENEFITTED from 9/11?
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Sun Dec-26-04 09:35 PM
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14. I've been reading a lot about 9/11 lately. |
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Al Qaeda terror cells responsible for the 9/11 attacks made several glaring mistakes in the months leading up to that day. The likelihood of Gore's attorney general granting a search warrant for Mossaui's computer would have been greater than for Ashcroft. This would have led the FBI to the core of the terror cell. In my opinion, Gore would have taken Clinton's advice and made thrwarting terrorism a priority. I don't think it would have happened under Pres. Gore.
The FBI having arrested and convicted the original masterminds years earlier, but never bothering to question them specifically on the future plots they had planned for NYC, is something that a Gore administration could not have fixed.
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