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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:39 PM
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Official Guy James Show thread----3pm -please keep kicked!!!!!!!!!!!!
visit www.theguyjamesshow.com and listen live. Show starts at 3pm eastern. Call 1-239-530-1660 and let us know whats on your mind. Michael is back today and he got a nice mention in the "Republican Love segment." We need your calls!!!

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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:45 PM
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1. Guy, please ask your listeners to call CNN and MSNBC...
and ask why they are not reporting the Dean/Davis statements on the California recall. Dean made some remarks about the GOP trying to undermine Democracy, and layed out 4 specific examples.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:18 PM
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21. Thanks for working so hard for Dean, unfrigginreal!
I've seen you on a few threads rightfully sticking up for Dean in the Best way! :D
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:55 PM
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55. Thanks zidzi! Time for you to make the call...
I forgot to mention this when I called the program earlier...it's your turn! And they really make you feel welcome! Please call :bounce:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:20 PM
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62. I'll call one day....but I'm working my way up there!
I know I will call but I also know it won't be today! :-)
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 06:31 PM
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84. I waited to post this after the show...
zidzi, we are in for the fight of our lives to reclaim this country...we do not have the luxury of waiting until we're ready, we MUST speak out now!

I don't mean to be condescending, I just feel that you would be a GREAT speaker based on your posts here. Please reconsider for next week.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 06:35 PM
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85. c'mon.... it is SO easy with Guy and Michael....

p.s. I never called a show (well, once on a local show but it was silly) and WAY before GuyJames.

they make it SO easy.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:56 PM
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92. You should hear me at a bar <hic>.
Thanks! It doesn't hurt either that the DU callers are all so well informed and confident!

We, well at least me (Guy is a Pro at this game, I'm not.), make it easy for you guys because you guys are so good.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:47 PM
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2. YAY !!!!
My favorite part of Saturday :bounce:
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 01:49 PM
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3. Yay, Michael is back
Excellent work filling in for Mike Malloy last night, Guy! I look forward to your show today. Kick :kick:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:01 PM
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4. so, where are all the usual suspects ???
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:20 PM
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24. One of the usual suspects checking in!
I had to work last Saturday (bleah) and haven't been on much due to overwork and fibro, but with a new doctor (yay) and a day off, I'm raring to go!

Guy, Michael, you guys are a sound for tired ears!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:28 PM
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29. Another usual suspect
checking in sir.
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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:04 PM
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5. Hi all!
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:05 PM
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6. I'm not getting any sound.
Is anybody else?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:07 PM
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9. loud and clear
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:08 PM
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10. Never mind. It was on mute!
Don't know how my windows setting got screwed up but they were. sorry.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:16 PM
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18. Feed loud and clear for me
n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:06 PM
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7. kick
:kick:
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:07 PM
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8. I've got it. Loud and clear.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:10 PM
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11. Here's one of "the usual suspects"!
Love the website!

:kick:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:11 PM
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12. Guy's as great as usual.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 02:12 PM by JudiLyn
Need this Democratic fix every weekend!

On edit:

Emitt from Naples, a Floridian who's becoming a Democrat. THAT's refreshing, isn't it?
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:18 PM
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20. Welcome to the party Emitt
Glad you have seen the light.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:12 PM
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13. Yay Emmet is a Democrat now!!!
Guy makes a difference!
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:12 PM
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14. Hi all!
Yay, a new Happy Democrat!
:bounce:
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:13 PM
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15. Did Guy just say that he thinks that Dean has fooled a lot of people?
WTF? What does that mean?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:15 PM
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17. I thought I heard that but then I thought ..."no!" that can't be!
SAy it isn't so!! :-)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. missed it....
call in and ask him! (or, wait for the show to be in the archives)

I really really doubt he would intentionally dissed any Dem candidate
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:19 PM
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22. I do, too! Doubt it!
So we'll find out for sure!! :-)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #22
37. Missed it, did you get it clarified?
Just now getting the sound.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:38 PM
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43. Yes! Hi Madflorida!
Guy said "Dean fooled a lot of People" and he meant in the context of "Surprising" them! :-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:22 PM
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25. Oh I see what he means...is that you, unfrigginreal?
From North Carolina?!
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Yeah that was me...hope I didn't sound too stupid...
first time on radio.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. bravo!
you did fine! don't they make it easy ???
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:33 PM
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36. You didn't sound nothing but Good! I like your "accent"!
And I liked it that you talked about Dean and somethings you like about him!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #30
41. Good job, unfrigginreal.
You seemed very relaxed. Congratulations.
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:30 PM
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32. Fooled as in Suprised!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:34 PM
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39. Yeah! So we heard right we just weren't used to that expression..
in the context! :-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:14 PM
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16. A defect! a repuke changes his "party affiliation"! Thanks to the
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 02:15 PM by zidzi
"Guy James Show" talkin' about the real issuues and this man wants to "take back the White House"!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:20 PM
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23. Just noticed Guy has a link from his page to the Mike Malloy Show
He says he will be doing that show during the week of September 11th.

Very interesting.

Good luck to Guy.

I could only hear Guy's show for around 5 minutes last night, during which a mother of a soldier called who was genuinely broken up, and desperate about getting her son back. It was so intense, yet I had to leave right then, and couldn't stay.

It sounded like a very serious, important moment. I'm sure Guy handled it well, although I couldn't stay to hear.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. only heard the first hour and a half...

too tired. hope it will be archived though...

I think he's on monday and tuesday
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. Yeah, ARCHIVED! That's a thought.
Thank you.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #23
27. It was very Sad and Guy did handle it and said this is why we
want to bring the troops Home!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. That was the first time in radio
I ever heard someone call a show directly from the heart of pain. Very sobering.

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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. Where's MandyKY?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #35
48. I've been missing her, too!
:-(
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #35
91. I'm here - been sick
I missed the first half hour of the show, sounds like I missed a bunch.
Finally starting to feel somewhat better, hope to be able to do more than lurk this week.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #33
40. I know it was like an historical moment!
It was chilling! :-(
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:31 PM
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34. Glad Michael is Back...I like they way they riff off each other!
Voices, I grown to feel very comfortable with! :-)
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:34 PM
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38. sweet! Great job filling in for Mike, too!
:toast:

I didn't get to hear the first half, but I caught the soldier's mother :-(

Guy you sounded like you were getting a little stressed there too, just like Mike did this week (and ME!)

if not for you guys, and DU, and the Bay Area DUers, I'd be insane...

ok, MORE insane! :evilgrin:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:37 PM
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42. g_b_n_c is on! n/t
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. Wow, what a quote to start with.
Mommy *, a "beautiful mind"? Gimme a break, look what she raised (Shrubbie, Jebbie and the other asshole).
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mojogeorgo Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:40 PM
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44. Whistle Ass
This was posted on the Dean blog today:

The "Whistle Ass" store is ready for anyone who is interested. Proceeds will to go the campaign of Bush's Democratic opposition in 2004.

http://www.cafepress.com/whistleass

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:42 PM
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46. Great!
"Whistle Ass Store"!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:40 PM
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45. Andy in Seattle!
barbara bush quote of not wasting her beautiful mind(sic) on thinking about the body bags"!

I had forgotten about that and it really does give insight into bush's freakin' mind!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:51 PM
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49. London Calling! With Bells On!
Scott is a screen writer,too, as well, as our London Bureau Chief!

"The Guardian" .."is it possible for blair to be brought down?"

Alistair Campbell resigned ..so the end of spin!

2500 more UK troops in Iraq!

Power and water still not on in Iraq yet!

Stunned Mullet! Geof Hoon!

9/11 attacks were known about by bushwa! Story written by Michael Meecher in Briton!

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:51 PM
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50. Scott from London does a terrific "Jesus Haaaaates Yewww" accent
Isn't he exceptional?

Whatta call.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. Scott....I want to be in your movie
:yourock:
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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:53 PM
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51. Malloy shows archived here...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #51
57. Thanks, we needed that!
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 03:02 PM by JudiLyn
Looking forward to catching the Friday show when it's available.

On edit:

UH, OHHHHH.

I'll bet "Republican LOVE" is coming up soon. Hope other D.U.'ers are wearing their seat belts, and have their various talismans and charms to keep them safe!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:53 PM
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53. I love the reports from the London Bureau
Scott is just great. Sorry I can't satisfy his wish for republican hate mail, but I am not that good at faking idiocy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:54 PM
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54. Support Congressman Rob Wexler!
Wexler is working on not using the voting machines that can be manipulated!

I like Wexler, too! From 2000, also! I'll never forget him!

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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:55 PM
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56. Loving Kick

Go Guy!!!

:kick:

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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:00 PM
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58. Anyone have link to Babs Bush interview?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:06 PM
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59. Here's the quote, from Buzzflash
(snip) "He sits and listens and I read books because I know perfectly well that - don't take offense - that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about the news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. But why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I mean, it's, not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? And watch him suffer." (snip/)

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/04/07_barbara.html

However, there are 309 entries in google for "Barbara Bush" + "beautiful mind" so it looks as if a lot of people have been hacked off about this besides us DU'ers!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Barbara+Bush%22+%2B+%22beautiful+mind%22&btnG=Google+Search

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Frank_Person Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:08 PM
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60. Thank you VERY much.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:18 PM
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61. OMG! Those Repuke letters are just too funny!
n/y
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:23 PM
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63. I don't care what your critics say, Guy and Michael
You guys are WAY better than Rush.

Well, I guess the bar isn't too high on that one, but you know what I mean. ;-)

:hi:

Great show and I'm looking forward to next week.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:41 PM
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64. Nostamj! "A little bit of Dust"?
Jeff giving us a better description of what went on in New York City and 7 miles away from the WTC than the bushwa said with.."A little bit of dust"!

The stench was unimaginable!

Firemen have lost more Firemen due to work on the pile or as equal to.

Masks were needed.

The Hell with the People!

An epidemic of low birth rate babies from Women who were exposed to 9/11 debris.

chrisy whitman has No scrupples..my words.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:42 PM
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65. Jeff!
:loveya: :yourock:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Outstanding insight to the REAL situation in New York
describing airborn, previously solid matter hovering in the air for days, as far away as 7 miles..............

Excellent information to follow the phone call from Mr. "I been around asbestos and mill dust for years" who should put a sock in it! (I think it may have eaten away some of his brain!)

Great call, "Nostamj."


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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #66
78. thanks thanks thanks...
I REALLY was going to take a day off. (I was on last night too!)

but that 'little bit of dust' just TICKED ME OFF

and the bit about the firefighters 'cashing in' :nuke:



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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. I used to travel to Lower Manhattan weekly
I sell to financial services firms. The air was terrible, especially if the wind was blowing off the Hudson.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:51 PM
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67. Johnny from Toronto!
Toronto correspondent!

Meacher article!

Pnac revealed. website.

I don't write it off as a conspiracy theory! I put nothing past them!

Peak oil situation. Event will occur. 2050 - 2070 ..

Grab the resources Now! Grab everything Now! bushwa mantra.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:02 PM
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73. Hi Zidzi
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 04:31 PM by JohnyCanuck
Hi Zidzi

The problem is that Simmons (the Bush/Cheney energy advisor I quoted) said back in the 60's they thought that we would have until 2050 or 2070 until the affects of Peak Oil were noticed and therefore there could be a time to develop a "plan B". However, it is becoming more apparent that oil production could very well be peaking right now or within the next 10 to 15 years or so. That leaves us very much in the lurch and our options for developing a "Plan B" or a means to a viable non-petroleum based economy completely in the lurch.

For anyone interested in finding out more about this issue, check out www.hubbertpeak.com or just type: "peak oil" into google and follow the links.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:05 PM
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76. Thank ya for the website!
:-)
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:46 PM
Original message
If Hubbertpeak.com seems overly technical
check out these links.

The first link is to the transcript of an Oct 2002 interview of Colin Campbell PhD (a petroleum geologist and former oil industry exec and consultant). It gives a brief summary in straightforward, non-technical terms as to how the peak oil proponents see the situation today.

FTW: What will be the likely effects of hitting the downslope of production?

Campbell: Big question. Simply stated: war, starvation, economic recession, possibly even the extinction of homo sapiens, insofar as the evolution of life on earth has always been accomplished by the extinction of over-adapted species (when their environmental niche changed for geologic or climatic reasons) leaving simpler forms to continue, and eventually giving rise new more adapted species. If Homo sapiens figures out how to move back to simplicity, he will be the first to do so.

FTW: How soon before we start to feel the effects of dwindling oil supplies?

Campbell: We already are -- in the form of the threatened U.S. invasion of the Middle East. The U.S. would be importing 90 percent of its oil by 2020 to hold even current demand and access to foreign oil has long been officially declared a vital national interest justifying military intervention. Probable actual physical shortage of all liquid hydrocarbons worldwide won't appear for about 20 years, especially if deepening recession holds down demand. But people are coming to appreciate that peak is imminent and what it means. Some places like the U.S. will face shortage sooner than others. The price is likely to soar as shortage looms, which itself may delay peak.

If the U.S. does invade there will likely be a repeat of Vietnam with many years of fruitless struggle in which the U.S. will be seen as a tyrant and an oppressor, killing all those Arabs. It can't hope to subjugate the place in perpetuity as the people don't surrender easily -- as the Palestinians have shown. So when the U.S. has finally gone, Russia and China will likely be welcomed there to produce whatever is left in the ruins.


More at: www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/102302_campbell.html

This link is to a Real Player video of a University Lecture by Campbell in Clausthall, Germany. He discusses in non-technical language the problems that we could be facing in a very few years when oil production peaks (lecture is in English).

www.rz.tu-clausthal.de/realvideo/event/peak-oil.ram

Finally here is a link to a transcript of the address by Mathew Simmons, the Cheney task force energy advisor.

www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/061203_simmons.html

The uh, I think basically that now, that peaking of oil will never be accurately predicted until after the fact. But the event will occur, and my analysis is leaning me more by the month, the worry that peaking is at hand; not years away. If it turns out I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. But if I'm right, the unforeseen consequences are devastating.
But unfortunately the world has no Plan B if I'm right. The facts are too serious to ignore. Sadly the pessimist-optimist debate started too late. The Club of Rome humanists were right to raise the 'Limits to Growth' issues in the late 1960's. When they raised these issues they were actually talking about a time frame of 2050 to 2070. Then time was on the side of preparing Plan B. They like Dr. Hubbert got to be seen as Chicken Little or the Boy Who Cried Wolf...





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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:46 PM
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82. If Hubbertpeak.com seems overly technical
check out these links.

The first link is to the transcript of an Oct 2002 interview of Colin Campbell PhD (a petroleum geologist and former oil industry exec and consultant). It gives a brief summary in straightforward, non-technical terms as to how the peak oil proponents see the situation today.

FTW: What will be the likely effects of hitting the downslope of production?

Campbell: Big question. Simply stated: war, starvation, economic recession, possibly even the extinction of homo sapiens, insofar as the evolution of life on earth has always been accomplished by the extinction of over-adapted species (when their environmental niche changed for geologic or climatic reasons) leaving simpler forms to continue, and eventually giving rise new more adapted species. If Homo sapiens figures out how to move back to simplicity, he will be the first to do so.

FTW: How soon before we start to feel the effects of dwindling oil supplies?

Campbell: We already are -- in the form of the threatened U.S. invasion of the Middle East. The U.S. would be importing 90 percent of its oil by 2020 to hold even current demand and access to foreign oil has long been officially declared a vital national interest justifying military intervention. Probable actual physical shortage of all liquid hydrocarbons worldwide won't appear for about 20 years, especially if deepening recession holds down demand. But people are coming to appreciate that peak is imminent and what it means. Some places like the U.S. will face shortage sooner than others. The price is likely to soar as shortage looms, which itself may delay peak.

If the U.S. does invade there will likely be a repeat of Vietnam with many years of fruitless struggle in which the U.S. will be seen as a tyrant and an oppressor, killing all those Arabs. It can't hope to subjugate the place in perpetuity as the people don't surrender easily -- as the Palestinians have shown. So when the U.S. has finally gone, Russia and China will likely be welcomed there to produce whatever is left in the ruins.


More at: www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/102302_campbell.html

This link is to a Real Player video of a University Lecture by Campbell in Clausthall, Germany. He discusses in non-technical language the problems that we could be facing in a very few years when oil production peaks (lecture is in English).

www.rz.tu-clausthal.de/realvideo/event/peak-oil.ram

Finally here is a link to a transcript of the address by Mathew Simmons, the Cheney task force energy advisor.

www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/061203_simmons.html

The uh, I think basically that now, that peaking of oil will never be accurately predicted until after the fact. But the event will occur, and my analysis is leaning me more by the month, the worry that peaking is at hand; not years away. If it turns out I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. But if I'm right, the unforeseen consequences are devastating.
But unfortunately the world has no Plan B if I'm right. The facts are too serious to ignore. Sadly the pessimist-optimist debate started too late. The Club of Rome humanists were right to raise the 'Limits to Growth' issues in the late 1960's. When they raised these issues they were actually talking about a time frame of 2050 to 2070. Then time was on the side of preparing Plan B. They like Dr. Hubbert got to be seen as Chicken Little or the Boy Who Cried Wolf...





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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:52 PM
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68. I hope Guy posts the Cheney energy task force docs on his site
Talking about the Klayman docs.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:52 PM
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69. Who was the caller from Canada?
I missed his name. He provided PNAC information. Great call.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. well, canadian... could be
Dudley_Duright ???

fess up!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:05 PM
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75. Nope, not me
I have now retired to Bush occupied FL! Thanks for thinking of me though.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:03 PM
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74. That was me, the one and only JohnyCanuck n/t
n/t
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:56 PM
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71. this repuke idiot!

as IF I said that BushCo *wouldn't* get the masks.

I said they DIDN'T get the masks.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:59 PM
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72. LOL! What a MORAN!
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northofdenali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:06 PM
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77. Can't resist, nothingshocksme..................
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:31 PM
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79. KICK! KEEP THE CALLS COMING!!!!
<this is michael logged on as guy>
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:35 PM
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81. c'mon! calling in is SO easy....

i did my thing already...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:57 PM
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83. It's so Sad that our Soldiers had to Die to make bush polls go
South! :-( Those Soldiers Are Heros and Martyrs!

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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 07:26 PM
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86. Our DU callers are just getting better and better! Thanks!
We had a great show today thanks to our DU friends. Nowhere on the net is there such a great group of well informed political activists. You really helped to make today's show a good one.

My Best,
Guy
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. Want to know something funny?
The DU callers that we got are WAY better than I would be!

They really kicked ass today and that really helped a show with no biggie guests lined up shine.

Maybe one of the better ones to date.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 07:56 PM
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88. give yourselves some credit.....

you make it easy to call and always keep the calls focused and yet free-wheeling.

no matter how good the callers, it's the synergy with the hosts that *make* the show.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:26 PM
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89. I worked all afternoon.
:(

So I missed the show. Glad to hear it went well!

:hi:
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AnnabelLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 09:44 PM
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90. I was busy doing housework
but I listened to the show while I was working. Great job, Guy & JanMichael, & all the DUers who called in, too!:hi:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 11:32 PM
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93. Additional shows coming up, from Guy James' website:
Guy's Show Update
Guy will be hosting the Mike Malloy Show the week of Sept. 11th, 9PM-12AM and Radio Free Speech Zone Sept. 16, 3-5PM.

http://www.theguyjamesshow.com/


DU'ers, take a look at the great shows you can hear in Guy's archives:
http://www.theguyjamesshow.com/archives.html

We've been STARVED for any Democratic radio at ALL, and getting Guy James, a real professional, who is so well-informed, who really gives a fig is almost too enjoyable!
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