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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:20 AM
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**Election: has everyone here contacted their Reps? If not...PLEEEEZZ
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 09:20 AM by G_j
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If you are not already one of the many who have spoken out to our representatives in government about your level of confidence in this election, please consider using the one click form at

http://www.thepen.us/contest.html

Unless we speak up it is not our leaders who have failed us, it is we who have failed them, by not giving them the support they need to fight for the justice we demand. We cannot depend on the courts or biased secretaries of state, who can be expected to drag their feet and then say it is we who waited too long. Make your voice heard now while it can still count.

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The People's Email Network Update Newsletter:

We are calling on all participants of The People's Email Network
to speak out to their members of Congress on whether the
election should be contested there. Ukraine has already had
their contest, their ruling and their new election and yet for some
reason our country cannot seem to even manage starting a
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heretheycome Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:29 AM
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1. not to rain on your parade
but this is futile. Ukraine not only had a majority of the people protesting, but the courts found fraud within the election. The election workers complained of fraud. Hundreds of votes where falling out of peoples A$$es.

We are not the majority of America on this board, although many wish we were. There was/is no pr oven fraud in any state. We pick on Ohio cause that gives Kerry the presidency, but come on.

I know long lines for the poor, but those long lines where there in the Clinton error also. Regardless of who is running for president the poor always have shitty equipment and long lines.

We should be putting our energies into 2006 and 2008. Building support and winning elections from the local levels on up.



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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:33 AM
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2. and how much 'energy' does it take
to call or write your Reps?

:shrug:

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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:35 AM
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3. I'm on it.
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heretheycome Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:38 AM
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4. I just think we should work for the future
and we need all of our energy for that.

When you call or write your Rep, what will you say. Hey our elections were fraudulent. I know cause everyone I talk to say they voted for Kerry.

Response, get to know more people. I hear only speculation. I see no proof of fraud.

I feel for you and me and us all, but give it up. Work for tomorrow
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 09:52 AM
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5. read Conyers' letter
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml

Video Supporting Ohio Vote Fraud Claim Revealed
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Report

Thursday 23 December 2004

Truthout has come into possession of video from Hocking County, Ohio. The video was recorded by a documentary film crew that was reporting on the Ohio election. The crew interviewed a technician from Triad Systems. In a report released by truthout on December 15, 2004, we reported on an affidavit filed by Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy director of elections. In her affidavit, Eaton stated:

On Friday, December 10 2004, Michael from TriAd called in the AM to inform us that he would be in our office in the PM on the same day. I asked him why he was visiting us. He said, "to check out your tabulator, computer, and that the attorneys will be asking some tricky questions and he wanted to go over some of the questions they maybe ask." He also added that there would be no charge for this service.

He arrived at about 12:30PM. I hung his coat up and it was very heavy. I made a comment about it being so heavy. He, Lisa Schwartze and I chatted for a few minutes. He proceeded to go to the room where our computer and tabulation machine is kept. I followed him into the room. I had my back to him when he turned the computer on. He stated that the computer was not coming up. I did see some commands at the lower left hand of the screen but no menu. He said that the battery in the computer was dead and that the stored information was gone. He said that he could put a patch on it and fix it. My main concern was - what if this happened when we were ready to do the recount. He proceeded to take the computer apart and call his offices to get information to input into our computer. Our computer is fourteen years old and as far as I know had always worked in the past. I asked him if the older computer, that is in the same room. could be used for the recount. I don't remember exactly what he said but I did relay to him that the computer was old and a spare. At some point he asked if he could take the spare computer apart and I said "yes". He took both computers apart. I don't remember seeing any tools and he asked Sue Wallace, Clerk, for a screwdriver. She got it for him. At this point I was frustrated about the computer not performing and feared that it wouldn't work for the recount. I called Gerald Robinette, board chairman, to inform him regarding the computer problem and asked him if we could have Tri Ad come to our offices to run the program and tabulator for the recount. Gerald talked on the phone with Michael and Michael assured Gerald that he could fix our computer. He worked on the computer until about 3:00 PM and then asked me which precinct and the number of the precinct we were going to count. I told him, Good Hope 1 # 17. He went back into the tabulation room. Shortly after that he (illegible) stated that the computer was ready for the recount and told us not to turn the computer off so it would charge up.

Before Lisa ran the tests, Michael said to turn the computer off. Lisa said, " I thought you said we weren't supposed to turn it off." He said turn it off and right back on and it should come up. It did come up and Lisa ran the tests. Michael gave us instructions on how to explain the rotarien, what the tests mean, etc. No advice on how to handle the attorneys but to have our Prosecuting Attorney at the recount to answer any of their legal questions. He said not to turn the computer off until after the recount.

He advised Lisa and I on how to post a "cheat sheet" on the wall so that only the board members and staff would know about it and and what the codes meant so the count would come out perfect and we wouldn't have to do a full hand recount of the county. He left about 5:00 PM.

My faith in Tri Ad and the Xenia staff has been nothing but good. The realization that this company and staff would do anything to dishonor or disrupt the voting process is distressing to me and hard to believe. I'm being completely objective about the above statements and the reason I'm bringing this forward is to, hopefully, rule out any wrongdoing.

The video of the technician buttresses her claims, and further reveals that the Triad representative acted in the same manner in several other counties besides Hocking.

The revelation of this video has motivated Rep. John Conyers, ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, to post a letter to Brett Rapp, President of Triad Systems. In the letter, Conyers states:

I have just reviewed a tape prepared by the documentarian Lynda Byrket of the hearing held by the Hocking County Board of Elections on December 20, and based on that tape I have more questions and concerns than ever about the conduct of your firm in connection with the Ohio presidential election and recount. In particular, I am concerned that your company has operated - either intentionally or negligently - in a manner which will thwart the recount law in Ohio by preventing validly cast ballots in the presidential election from being counted.

You have done this by preparing "cheat sheets" providing county election officials with information such that they would more easily be able to ignore valid ballots that were thrown out by the machines during the initial count. The purpose of the Ohio recount law is to randomly check vote counts to see if they match machine counts. By attempting to ascertain the precinct to be recounted in advance, and than informing the election officials of the number of votes they need to count by hand to make sure it matches the machine count is an invitation to completely ignore the purpose of the recount law.

The mounting evidence of election tampering by Triad representatives has motivated 2004 Presidential candidate John Kerry to join with Green Party and Libertarian Party representatives in their Ohio recount effort. John Kerry will file today, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, papers in support of the Green Party/Libertarian Party recount effort. Specifically, Kerry will be filing a request for expedited discovery regarding Triad Systems voting machines, as well as a motion for a preservation order to protect any and all discovery and preserve any evidence on this matter.






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heretheycome Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:09 AM
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6. you do know William Pitt
is from the Boston area and worked in the Kerry camp, so his writings tend to be one sided.

Looks like comm-air could have used triad systems last week., (joke)

The fraud seems to be in the cheat sheet. Throw out the cheat sheet and start counting. Is that being done or is this something we are trying to get done? If we are trying to get it done then I will do what you originally asked.

Please explain
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:21 AM
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7. not much by Will here
just Sherole Eaton's affidavit and Conyers letter.

Besides if it is Will or anyone else revealing factual information it shouldn't matter who the messenger is.

I suggest going to the 'Election 2004 Forum' to glean more info.
But certainly it can't hurt to let congress know we are not comfortable with what has been going on.

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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:25 AM
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8. Thanks GJ. And for those who want to contact key senators...
to request that they oppose certification on January 6th, check out the list (of "best bets") and contact info found in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=202643&mesg_id=202643
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 01:11 PM
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9.  thanks lostnfound! n/t
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