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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:13 PM
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Eisenhower is my kind of Republican!
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron."

President Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:15 PM
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1. There used to a belief in social progress.
As society develops, it better serves the interests of all, including providing necessities to the most vulnerable.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:18 PM
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2. Eisenhower was invited by both parties to run as president
if memory serves. On the otehr hand Nixon was his vice-President.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:56 PM
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13. Eisenhower owed two favors
to two people who helped him in California
one was Richard Nixon - who he named as Veep Candidate and became Veep
The other was Earl Warren who he named as the Chief Justice of the United States.
Now image how different our Country would have been if Warren had been Veep and Nixon as Chief Justice.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:18 PM
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3. A far cry from the idiots today who say that...
...we need to quit investing in wasteful social programs and dump all our money in the military industrial complex. Well, we have been doing that and guess what. We have the biggest budget deficits ever.

Eisenhower was a good man. The last good Republican president.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:18 PM
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4. Eisenhower was not the darling you think.
And he let the Dulles brothers pretty much sow the seeds for our current damnation.
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:20 PM
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5. I'd take him over dumbass any day of the week!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:48 PM
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16. You are absolutely correct...
particularly about the Dulles brothers
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Goathead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:21 PM
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6. We should claim Ike as one of our own
He also warned of the threat of the military industrial complex. Those most certainly are not freeper values. If Ike were alive and said that yesterday, he would be branded as a traitor by the freepers. Those stupid ignorant fucks, they are destroying this country.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:49 PM
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11. Yeah, but the reason Ike knew of the dangers of the MIC,
Is because he encouraged it to grow. It was because of his urging, and his fascination with all things military that we created a permanent standing army that was always on war time footing, even when we were at peace. The Cold War, though not started by Ike, increased military spending exponentially under his tenure.

Just because Ike gave a nice going away speech preaching peace(probably as a concession to his guilty conscience) doesn't mean we should give the man a pass. He was one of the most virulent war hawks in our nation's history.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:27 PM
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7. "I like Ike?" Never. Nope. Nada. Zed. Zero. No way. . .
although he did give America a great interstate highway system; which, in turn, opened up the floodgates of Detroit placing one car in everyone's driveway/garage across America . . . which, in turn, meant that we would be sucking the teat of mideast oil for decades too. Plus gas emissions that choke inner cities giving us all that well-pronounced "orange sky" appeal . . .

Yeah. I was around when Ike ran against Adlai. I voted for Adlai. And never regretted it.



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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:33 PM
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8. Ike didn't practice what he preached
His Secretary Of Defense was "Engine Charley" Wilson, the president of General Motors. You couldn't find a better example of an unholy alliance between big industry and big government.

Wilson became most (in)famous for a remark during his confirmation hearing: "I always thought that what was good for America was good for General Motors. And vice versa."

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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:37 PM
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9. who ran against ike both times? Ike began Reaganomics cuts in tax
ike a mixed bag, like clinton.

truman's tax structure had a top rate of ninety percent... the best.. all worse since.. so ike must have begun the horrid cuts that began reaganomics by other names. Now, top rate is a pathetic one third of that ninety. Pathetic.

Friends, the tax pool is the key to our programs . Without it, they vanish. Ike began the vanishing. His ideas would have ended up with us at peace, but with the extreme poverty we see today. 100 000/yr dead from homelessness' heat, cold, and rat bites.

who ran against him both times?
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:55 PM
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12. Adlai Stevenson . . .
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KSAtheist Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:54 PM
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18. This begs the question:
Do you have a car?
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:12 PM
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19. LOL . . . n/t
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:41 PM
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10. Is this quote genuine or farbed up?
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 03:43 PM by Union Thug
This came across a mailing list I'm on. I've never heard of it before. Can anyone authenticate? I suspect it's fake, but thought I'd throw it out...

"Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H.L. Hunt and a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

President Dwight Eisenhower, writing to his brother, Edgar, in May 1956.

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scarlett1 Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 03:58 PM
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14. Eisenhower said:
"We have never stopped sin by passing Law"
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:47 PM
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15. Mine too...dead
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 04:50 PM
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17. not to mention he knew what it meant to go to war
unlike the chicken-hawk we have running the show now
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:37 PM
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20. Dead?
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