scientists, meteorologists, etc. a tinfoilhat question about the lasers...

[uncle ray]

ok, there's obviously something very strange going on, with now a number of pilots reporting having red lasers pointed into their cockpits, the terror warning about this happening etc.

could this have something to do with HAARP?

could the high frequency sound waves, cause the layers in the atmosphere to move or something, i don't know, i've come up with a few possibilities...maybe create a "sandwich" of a particular part of the light spectrum within the atmosphere? i've heard that HAARP makes a "virtual mirror" using the ionosphere? could this virtual mirror be tuned to reflect, and concentrate light? create a hole in the atmosphere, allowing some unfiltered Sun's rays to enter the cockpit? could it be manipulation of water molecules in some way, to do this? rainbows turned into weapons?

if you're blinded by a bright light, you'd be hard pressed to positivly identify the type/source of the light, calling it a laser would be the best explanation these pilots could come up with.

i know, some real tinfoil hat stuff, and yup, i'm ignorant on the subject, that's why i'm asking the questions. flame away if that's what you feel you need to do.


:tinfoilhat:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Here's something no one, AFAIK, has discussed:

"Blooming", IE: the bothersome tendency for a coherent beam of light to be rendered far less coherent by dust, pollen and humidity in the atmosphere, especially at low levels. Which also renders it far less effective.

Which also makes it a lot more possible that IF this is taking place, that it is coming from an airborne or space-borne platform.

Perhaps they are testing Star Wars Defensive stuff?

[Wilber_Stool]

2. The fuselage of an airplanes

is a fairly blunt cylinder with the pilot sitting in the upper third. It would be very difficult to shine a laser into his eyes from the ground regardless of his altitude. There must be something else going on here.
Might be something as simple as trying to get his insurance to pay for glasses. It is strange.

[sui generis]

4. it's the "scattering" that makes this so completely improbable

the beam is no longer coherent after several hundred feet.

The other funny one was having the FAA "track" the laser origin using radar. I mean really. This is just a load of bullshit designed to keep the sheeple shivering with fear.

And let's be completely rational here: it would have to be one BIG ASS laser to do anything more than skip across your focus of vision, and it would have to stay on there.

Anybody care to do a bit of trig here? If you shine a laser 10,000 feet and try to hit an object that is at most a half centimeter in diameter (the pilot's pupil in cockpit lowlight), HOW STILL WOULD YOU HAVE TO KEEP THAT LASER, also keeping in mind that the cockpit and pilot are moving at a pretty good clip in the air, and the pilot is also moving his head around too.

How big a perturbation on the target end would you get with a half millimeter perturbation on the source end? Almost certainly bigger than the entire plane.

[uncle ray]

5. was my post that unclear?

i'm suggesting, asking if it ISN'T a laser at all, but light in the atmosphere being created or malnipulated somehow. partly for the reasons you cite for a laser not being effective.

[sui generis]

7. sorry I gave an oblique reply

your post was clear - I was think-typing out loud.

[crispini]

6. Yeah, but it's more than one pilot.

This has been in the news about four or five times over the last few months. I believe one actually suffered retinal burns.

[Rick Myers]

3. HAARP is radio based and very wide scale

The lasers are reported to be green, ruling out 'laser pointers.' Sounds like a show laser, and there is a company in Cleveland with that kind of tech... I agree that a ground-based laser would not 'shine into' the cockpit.

VERY, VERY ODD!

[satori]

8. Climatic Manipulation by the US Military: The HAARP Program

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html

The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
"Owning the Weather" for Military Use
by Michel Chossudovsky
27 September 2004

The High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) based in Gokona, Alaska, has been in existence since 1992. It is part of a new generation of sophisticated weaponry under the US Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI). Operated by the Air Force Research Laboratory's Space Vehicles Directorate, HAARP constitutes a system of powerful antennas capable of creating "controlled local modifications of the ionosphere" :

Nicholas Begich --actively involved in the public campaign against HAARP-- describes HAARP as:

"A super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead." (for further details see Michel Chossudovsky, http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO201A.html )