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Fed Up Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 06:27 AM
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Joe Lieberman hails Iraqi elections

I saw on a CNN crawler that (paraphrase) "Joe Lieberman hails upcoming Iraqi election as one of the greatest chances for democracy and freedom the world has ever witnessed." Who is he, Bush's speechwriter?

Joe is useless, like psoriasis, a wart, an appendix or tailbone, or tits on a boar hog. Good riddance when he bolts this party.

Al Gore bet the farm on this guy, instead of Sen. Graham of Florida and victory. What a damned shame.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 07:52 AM
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1. Overlooking Graham was one of Gores REAL mistakes
Graham would have known the ropes in Jebworld and had a greater affect in Florida 2000. We needed the Jewish vote but I think it was ours without Lieberman. Now he is Zell Lite.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:01 AM
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7. Gore's margin would have been too great to steal it
if Graham had been the man. All this crap would never have happened.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 07:57 AM
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2. i think joe lieberman has become about as discredited as colon powell
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:14 AM
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3. joe l. doesn't give a fuck about democracy in iraq.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 11:29 AM
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18. Exactly! lieman is an empty shell of
of what he used to be. Iraqi blood is on his hands as much as the carlyle candidate's.
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Calvinist Basset Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:22 AM
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4. Don't you know that "freedom is on the march" in Iraq?
Oh sure, 700 election officials resigned in Mosul together; too much violence in the country tempts the U.S. to withhold voting in certain areas; people continue to die from terrorist attacks; our troops are woefully underequipped . . . and . . . and . . . well, freedom is on the march, don't you see?

:eyes:
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:41 AM
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5. I love Bush's s* * * -eating grin when he says it .......
"Freeeedum izzon the marrrchh!" (3-second pause for effect)
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:06 AM
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9. That's exactly what I was going to say!
If the entire election official commission, 700 members, resigned, how the hell do they plan to have an election in 30 days?

There has been no training of poll workers...no education of the populace in HOW to vote...no way to ensure security for those hardy souls who even ATTEMPT to vote.

BTW, what the heck happened to the ten million dollars that Bush gave the wives and other fancy-shmancy Repub women who were supposed to teach Iraqi women how to vote? Haven't heard one word about what they are doing. I guess they all went Xmas shopping with what would be a petty cash windfall to them.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 08:54 AM
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6. Lieberman is a loon
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:05 AM
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8. All you are doing is
pointing out the fact that the 2 parties need to be better delineated.

There are more shites than Lieberman who call themselves Democrats.

Hold me back, because if this doesn't change soon, I am seriously joining some sort of progressive/labor coalition.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:08 AM
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10. Lieberman, Al From and their ilk are
Republican plants in the Democratic Party. I believe they are well-paid by the RW corporations to MAKE SURE that the Democrats NEVER win.

At least Zell Miller came out of the DINO closet - even though he seemed drunk as hell when he did.
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Elise Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:12 AM
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13. too simple
I just don't believe that.

Remember the Republican Party was once the 'party of Lincoln' and the Democratic Party was once the 'party of segregation proponents in the South' ....................... again, the parties need help and, when things smell, it starts at the top.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:38 AM
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14. If it don't change soon
I'll start spending my time with Progressive Democrats of America, and do all I can to fight the DLC.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:11 AM
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11. Maybe he can become an election worker over there
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:11 AM
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12. Joe Lieberman & John Negroponte drinking tea and plotting
on how to control the folks in Iraq like Negroponte did in Nicaragua in crushing the Sandinistas government by setting up death squads. During his ambassadorship, human rights violations in Honduras became systematic.

Negroponte supervised the construction of the El Aguacate air base, where the US trained Nicaraguan Contras and which critics say was used as a secret detention and torture center during the 1980s. In August 2001, excavations at the base discovered 185 corpses, including two Americans, who are thought to have been killed and buried at the site.

Fuck you Joe Lieberman!
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:43 AM
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15. Yes, but do any of the Iraqi candidates have Joementum?
If any of them do, they are doomed.

Or perhaps Mr. Lieberman is trying to find a country with more poorly run elections?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 09:45 AM
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16. Neocon sympathizer and Zionist liason....
Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 09:48 AM by Al-CIAda
AMAZING VIDEO SERIES -This four part series should be MANDATORY viewing, imo-

Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.?
Published: 12/12/01 FOX News.
These items have since been removed from the FOX News web site:
BRIT HUME, HOST: It has been more than 16 years since a civilian working for the Navy was charged with passing secrets to Israel. Jonathan Pollard pled guilty to conspiracy to commit espionage and is serving a life sentence. At first, Israeli leaders claimed Pollard was part of a rogue operation, but later took responsibility for his work. 

Now Fox News has learned some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S., who may have known things they didn't tell us before September 11. Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron has details in the first of a four-part series. 

PART 1-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
PART 2-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7544.htm
PART 3-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6480.htm
PART 4-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5133.htm

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Carl Cameron Reports
Wednesday, December 12, 2001
What did the Mossad know in advance about September 11 (and not pass on to USA allies?)
Transcript of 4 part series-
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/Israelis/spies1.html

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AIPAC Spy Case involves Intelligence on Iranian WMD

Juan Cole

09/06/04 -- James Gordon Meek reports that both FBI investigations of leaks from the Pentagon concern in part secret US intelligence on Iranian weapons of mass destruction programs. The FBI suspects that this intelligence was leaked to AIPAC and the Israelis on the one hand, and to Ahmad Chalabi on the other. Chalabi in turn is suspected of passing the information on to Tehran, playing the role of double agent. Although the FBI seems to be keeping the two inquiries separate, there is strong circumstantial evidence that there was a behind-the-scenes connection between Chalabi and the Israelis. That is, the information circuit may have been ingrown among the Neoconservatives, the Israelis and Chalabi's people.

It should be noted that Chalabi, the Neoconservatives, and Israel's Likud Party were allied in wanting to get up a US war against Iraq. But they were divided on the next stage, which was to get Washington to attack Iran, as well. Chalabi hates Saddam, but as an Iraqi Shiite has strong ties to Tehran, so he was not actually on board with Stage Two, and may have helped derail it, for which he is now hated in some Neoconservative circles.
Con't-
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6869.htm
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Crazy Like a Fox
Neocons go bananas over AIPAC spy scandal, but there's a method to their madness
by Justin Raimondo

...Anonymous," a currently serving CIA analyst, writes:"One can only react to this stunning reality by giving all praise to Israel's diplomats, politicians, intelligence services, U.S.-citizen spies, and the retired senior U.S. officials and wealthy Jewish-American organizations who lobby an always amenable Congress on Israel's behalf. In an astounding and historically unprecedented manner, the Israelis have succeeded in lacing tight the ropes binding the American Gulliver to the tiny Jewish state and its policies; as Anatol Lieven has written, the Israelis have been so successful that Israeli nationalism 'for many Americans has become deeply entwined with their American nationalism.'"
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=3583
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Leak Inquiry Includes Iran Experts in Administration
FBI counterintelligence investigators have in recent weeks questioned current and former U.S. officials about whether a small group of Iran specialists at the Pentagon and in Vice President Cheney's office may have been involved in passing classified information to an Iraqi politician or a U.S. lobbying group allied with Israel, according to sources familiar with or involved in the case.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60497-2004Sep3.html?nav=rss_nation
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If you have watched the 4 part FOX series, the following "art student' cover can be put in context-

The Israeli "art student" mystery
For almost two years, hundreds of young Israelis falsely claiming to be art students haunted federal offices -- in particular, the DEA. No one knows why -- and no one seems to want to find out.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/05/07/students/index_np.html
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Israeli Drug Smugglers' Global Monopoly On Ecstasy -2002
http://www.rense.com/general24/israelidrugsmugglers.htm

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Fri Sep 17,2004
LOS ANGELES Thirteen people are facing federal drug charges in Los Angeles for allegedly taking part in a cross-continent Ecstasy smuggling ring.
Investigators say about 300-thousand doses of the club drug -- with a street value of nearly seven (m) million dollars -- were seized in raids over a two-year period.

Dubbed Operation Money Man, prosecutors say the investigation of the European ring began when U-S immigration agents learned that a group of mostly Israeli nationals were selling Ecstasy in the L-A area.

Authorities say the ring shipped more than seven (m) million Ecstasy tablets from the Czech republic to the United States, Australia, Poland and Russia over the past year.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=2312570
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US to sell Israel bunker-buster bombs
The Age Australia -September 22, 2004
The US plans to sell Israel $139 million ($A200 million) worth of air-launched bombs, including 500 "bunker busters" able to penetrate Iran's underground nuclear facilities, Israeli security sources said yesterday.
The newspaper Haaretz quoted a Pentagon report as saying the procurement sought "to maintain Israel's qualitative advantage and advance US strategic and tactical interests". The US embassy in Israel had no comment, referring queries to Washington. Israel's Defence Ministry also declined to comment.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/09/21/1095651323300.html?oneclick=true
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 10:25 AM
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17. All I can say is...
WOW!

It is not only politically incorrect to speak out about or question anything regarding Israel, but now it seems almost criminal.

They have done their work quite well. Where will it all lead?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 12:14 PM
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19. Useless political HACK.
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