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Sat Jan-01-05 06:00 PM
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Top 5 Americans who should have been president by never got to be? |
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Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 06:03 PM by ZombieNixon
For whatever reason; didn't run, lost election, assassinated...
My five:
1. Robert Kennedy 2. Benjamin Franklin 3. Adlai Stevenson 4. Al Gore 5. Hubert Humphrey
Who be yours?
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:01 PM
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1. Contemporary times? Why of course, Mario Cuomo. n/t |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:03 PM
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3. Gary Hard (D) CO...damn, he would have been good. |
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He's our Charles Stewart Parnell.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:06 PM
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but good subconscious misspelling
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:07 PM
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Sat Jan-01-05 09:58 PM
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33. Hey, that's what Donna Rise called him. A hard man for a |
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dangerous world! Hmmm...need to read these things before I post them.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:03 PM
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:12 PM
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Sun Jan-02-05 04:59 AM
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Another vote for Debs. Stevenson. Robert Kennedy, Tilden, and Gore
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:04 PM
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5. RFK, Ben Franklin, heck I can't top that list. |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:05 PM
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6. Adlai Stevenson tops my list. |
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Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 06:05 PM by Bertha Venation
Benjamin Franklin would've added a lurid chapter to the office's fine tradition of housing "lady's men."
Oh -- and I'd add Howard Dean, but he's a young man, and I have hope.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:06 PM
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8. Back when Franklin could have been president... |
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everyone would have known about it and no one would have cared. Remember, there was no Faux News in 1800.
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:15 PM
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28. Good point. Then, too, many were slave owners. And then there's the |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:06 PM
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9. I don't agree with Humphrey due to the war, |
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but I also would have to list R. Kennedy, Franklin,Stevenson, Gore and McGovern due to the war and the fact that Nixon was an absolute CROOK!. I'll never get over that one.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:09 PM
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Sun Jan-02-05 07:58 AM
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39. I knew his grandon. He was a pathetic falling-down drunk. |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:13 PM
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14. good reasons for some of those |
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Humphrey never came out against the war because of fear of reprisal by LBJ. His loss was in part a result of his own lack of political courage. Al Gore doesn't make my list of top five anything. Franklin was a bit of a pain, obsessed with empiricism above all else and displayed an amazing lack of compassion, particularly when it came to his own family.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:26 PM
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18. >>Humphrey never came out against the war |
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>>because of fear of reprisal by LBJ. His loss was in part a result of his own lack of political courage.
I agree, however, had he won the election, I think he would have been a good president. I'm dealing with outlandish hypothetical situations, here. I'd put my dad on the list, but he's not an American citizen.
Still, good points on your part.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:16 PM
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15. ditto, just about in that order. |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:18 PM
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1) Robert Kennedy 2) Howard Dean 3) Al Gore 4) George McGovern 5) Benjamin Franklin
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:19 PM
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Earl Warren Bobby Seale Richard Clough Anderson Jr. Will Rogers
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:37 PM
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19. I would add Dennis Kucinich to that list |
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too bad he got dumped by the "leadership"
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:50 PM
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he "got ROYALLY dumped" by the leadership.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:38 PM
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20. William Jennings Byran |
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:39 PM
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Hands down.
The US would be a much different and much better country had he been elected President.
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Sat Jan-01-05 06:44 PM
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22. Paul Wellstone or Eugene McCarthy n/t |
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Sun Jan-02-05 08:00 AM
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41. Paul Wellstone for sure; JFK Jr. soon after. |
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Talking relatively recently, of course.
RFK was my choice by far in '68 (after initally campaigning for "Clean Gene" McCarthy).
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:02 PM
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24. I would replace Hubert Humphrey with George McGovern |
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Humphrey deserved to lose for his illogical, immoral, and politically suicidal stance on the war in Vietnam.
I wasn't alive then, but my father was crushed when he saw the Democratic candidate slavishly defending Vietnam, especially since Dad had just seen several of his friends killed for absolutely nothing, and he himself was about to face the 1969 draft. He was so upset, in fact, that he voted Republican for the first and only time in his life in that election, just to punish Humphrey for betraying liberal Democrats.
Under the circumstances, I might have even done the same thing. It's easy to become a one-issue voter when you think that you're either going to die or be forced to kill someone else.
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:02 PM
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Ed Muskie and Paul Tsongas.
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:07 PM
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26. Start with Robert F. Kennedy... |
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...then, in no particular order:
George McGovern Edward M. Kennedy Al Gore Julian Bond
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:08 PM
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Edited on Sat Jan-01-05 07:09 PM by hellhathnofury
1. Robert Kennedy 2. William Jennings Bryan 3. Daniel Webster 4. Al Smith Oh and for shits and kicks, 5. Huey Long
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:30 PM
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30. Huey Long is a major thumbs down, which is regrettable |
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Huey Long was a populist and could've been an incredible governor and eventually president. Unfortunately at the same time he was a corrupt sack of shit, rigged elections to put his friends in to power, etc.
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Sat Jan-01-05 07:26 PM
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1. Alexander Hamilton 2. Robert F. Kennedy 3. John F. Kerry 4. Al Gore 5. William Jennings Bryan
not in that order though.
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Sat Jan-01-05 08:13 PM
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Adlai Stevenson Mario Cuomo Al Gore Jimmy Carter (Round II)
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Sat Jan-01-05 08:38 PM
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32. Gore Vidal, Garrison Keillor, RFK, Edmund Muskie, |
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Sat Jan-01-05 10:02 PM
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1)Al Gore, because he won 2)John Kerry, because he shoulda 3)Samuel Tilden, because he won 4)Robert Kennedy, because he was shot 5)Ben Franklin, because he seems like he should be.
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Sun Jan-02-05 04:10 AM
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RFK Charles Linburgh George Marshall Bob Kerrey Neil Armstrong
just for the record, I do not necessarily agree with the politics of these people. ... nothing special about Al Gore, Jr. , imo.
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But not Lindberg. He was too friendly with the Third Reich.
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Sun Jan-02-05 08:50 AM
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45. Skull and Bones Kerry? |
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Everyone is fighting for Kerry, and I understand it...the lesser of two evils.. but you got to remember something...Kerry is highly active in Skull and Bones. For Kerry to go into this election up 10 points just by being the candidate, and then lose it...that should say a lot.
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Sun Jan-02-05 06:47 AM
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Sun Jan-02-05 08:00 AM
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40. Stevenson, McGovern, Humphrey, Udall, Gore..nt |
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He was assassinated by the right wing corporate press machine very similar to the way Howard Dean was. The only difference is that Brown truly was a pure leftist democrat. Dean is at best a centrist. Shows you how much we've drifted to the right. I blame Clinton as much as I blame Bush. But then again, the House, Senate, DOD, FBI, CIA, ONI, will NEVER allow a true democrat to have power. The last one was Kennedy and we all know what happened to him.. (Bush Sr.)
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Sun Jan-02-05 08:46 AM
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43. This is a good question |
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In no particular order:
Adlai Stevenson Eugene McCarthy George McGovern Martin Luther King Robert Kennedy
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