In Your Heart of Hearts - Where Does Your Faith in the USA Stand?

[bobd]

[The Zanti Regent]

1. America is dead.

and Jesusland is out of control.

[HuskiesHowls]

2. One way or another...things will get better

Just check my sig:

[Ron Green]

3. America was a great idea and ideal, and we came pretty close at times to

realizing that ideal. But as with all things, there must be an end. Along with the decline of literacy there must be a decline in critical thought, and we're now leading the way in the dumbass parade.

I think the best we can do is fight the good fight, spread the progressive message and teach our children well, not because it will save us but because it's the right thing to do.

[Nothing Without Hope]

4. I didn't vote because the choice I looked for wasn't there

I am not sure what will happen, it could go either way, "democracy's dead" or "democracy will eventually prevail."

That uncertainty is no reason to give up. In fact, it's what is done that will determine what eventually happens. I have no doubt that unless the administration and its cronies are opposed, democracy will be uttlerly killed. It's certainly in bad shape now. But if the push for truth and the rule of constitutional law are pursued as far as needed, then a new flowering could be the result. It's worth the struggle.

If "democracy's dead," then there's no reason to fight, which I think is a mistake.

[DBoon]

5. We are Rome post-Caesar

We were once a democracy, but have gone too far to go back.

[noamnety]

6. my faith is gone

The environmental damage alone is enough to do us in, in the long run. The balance is too fragile to have years of mercury, arsenic, DU (the uranium, not the forum), lead, etc. thrown about recklessly, without permanent consequences.

Our health care needs and expenses alone have become so catastrophic that people are panicking, they've turned into the Iks. There is no more government for the people, there is now a desire for government for me, not those other people. That is why the republicans don't care if there was election fraud, they only care that they got what they wanted, not the right or wrong of it. That's why the democrats are having a hard time of it, because we are trying to explain to people why our policies are good for people worldwide as a whole, and we assume people care about such things. Like Lewis Thomas wrote back in the 70's, as nations, we bawl insults from our doorsteps, defecate into oceans, snatch all the food, survive by detestation, and celebrate the death of others. And more and more we do this as individuals, not just as nations. *cue Fred Phelps*

And the ability to reason logically and take action goes to hell when you get enough chemicals pumped into you, either through pollution, processed foods, or our government sponsored prozacfest. We're like a nation of cats, caring only about ourselves, and fapping at lint. I love (and by love I mean tolerate) my cat, but at the end of the day she's much better at eating tinsel and throwing up on the carpet than she is at running a democracy.

[FDRrocks]

7. My general faith in any government is gone...

When the going gets.... constantly dishonest, I get.... very goddamned cynical.

[driver8]

8. My sentiments exactly, FDRrocks... n/t

[susanna]

9. A short aside to the following poll-voters:

"Things are fine by me"

AND/OR

"Things have never been better"

Please check your meds. Thank you.

[Selatius]

10. Now some of you probably understand why so many don't vote anymore

There are plenty of people who simply don't care, but that's a problem in all representative governments, but there is also plenty who've grown disillusioned and simply turned it off out of disgust. The disenfranchisement has probably done as much as apathy to kill people participation in the US. The uglier and more disconnected politics is made, the more people stop participating. The only ones left are the holdouts and the ideologues and the monied interests. The rest don't care anymore.

If there is no change, if the nation does not change course, then this republic's days are numbered. It'll end like another great republic 2,000 years ago when it was transformed into an empire.

[raysr]

11. Throughout

this countries history, it has commited unspeakable crimes against humanity and allowed crimes of the same to occur.

[amjucsc]

12. The worse things get, the harder you need to fight to make then better

We live in interesting times. Get used to it.

[mcscajun]

13. I believe things will get better...

I'm just not sure it will happen while I'm alive

:::sigh:::