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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:26 PM
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Catholic school angers parents by admitting gay couple's sons
http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=2754484


I've had it with "religious" people attacking gay and lesbian families. These monsters who are attacking innocent children and seeking to have them thrown out of school should be a little more consistent.

If they believe all this crap they spew about "sin" then they should also throw out every kid who's parents are divorced (Jesus hated divorce) every kid whose parents have ever cheated (Jesus hated adultery) and every kid whose parents are fat (Gluttony - one of the seven deadly sins).

Which would leave the Catholic schools empty.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:28 PM
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1. Please remember that this is the parents, not the Church doing this.
Just want it clear who the bad guys are in this brouhaha.

:)
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Boy Interrupted Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:43 PM
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6. thats true.. it is a credit to the school to have admitted the student
to begin with. At the end of the article...

School officials have rejected the group's demands and issued a new policy stating that a family's background -- quote -- "does not constitute an absolute obstacle to enrollment in the school."

Well done. I don't know that the church itself is even involved in this.
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electric-eye Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:30 PM
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2. It would leave most religious schools empty
or nearly empty

of course, a gay couple's child would never make it into a baptist school to start with
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:34 PM
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3. I'm so sick of the RW'ers trying to take over the Catholics now.
It used to be the fundamentalist Protestant churches and it is now moving into the Catholic Church also.

It was always against abortion but was also against the death penalty, for helping the poor, against war,etc.

The Catholic Church is not "Republican" in its teachings - at least it did not used to be.

Now there are some wacko Bishops and a segment of the congregations that are trying to politicize everything in the church and turn it to the right.

It is really disgusting.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:37 PM
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4. As a lifelong, devout Catholic, I agree.
It's just a handful who are currently doing this in our Church, but it was also just a handful who did it to the Republican party at first, too.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:49 PM
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9. I know and they are becoming more vocal and aggressive. We really
need to start fighting back.

The values I learned in Catholics Schools is why I am a Democrat and why I am sending my kids to Catholic Schools.

I went to some of the (elementary grades) school masses and they are still teaching the same basic principles that I want my kids to learn.

I graduated from a Catholic HS and I swear I never heard a word about abortion or homosexuality.

I wish these RW Catholic's knew how their fellow Republican RW'ers view Catholicism. I don't think they would be quite so cozy.
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MLE Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 05:02 PM
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16. exactly
I'm a Catholic, and I always make sure to clarify and I often refer to myself as a Liberal Catholic. And one of my teachers, who is also a friend of my mother's, claims it is impossible to be a Liberal Catholic. She say it contradicts itself. Yeah right, this coming from someone who is Wells Lutheran, which tends to be super conservative. But to her credit, as a teacher she at least had enough sense not to vote Democrat and she doesn't really care much for b*sh.
But from what I've heard, at this particular church, there can't even be a meeting unless a man is present. I'm not totally sure, but it's a disturbing thought nonetheless.

And not that I have anything against any religion, just the brainwashing they do.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 08:30 PM
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17. Hi MLE!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:02 AM
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22. agreed...I wish the Jesuits would take the church back from Opus Dei..
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:39 PM
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5. I'm all in favor of allowing religious schools to discriminate, ONLY IF...
1) They don't accept "faith based" money.
2) The don't accept any kind of government grants or scholarships.
3) They don't accept vouchers.

If a PRIVATE Catholic school wanted to limit enrollment to baptized kids with blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin and devoutly religious Republican heterosexual white parents , I say more power to them, so long as they meet the above criteria.

And in return, all I ask is that they keep their big fat hypocritical busy-body fundamentalism COMPLETELY the hell out of our PUBLIC schools.

It sounds like a fair deal to me.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:44 PM
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8. Actually, the school is taking the kids' side in this.
:)
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:56 PM
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10. It sounds like you are blaming the school. Why?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:01 PM
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11. Um---the school is NOT discriminating in this case.
Some of the parents are.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:12 PM
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12. Exactly.
This is one instance where the Church (or one Priest, I should say) stood up to a group of bigots.

I wonder if this story will have legs in the media. It gives a black eye to the cultural rightwingers, so my bet is it won't.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 02:43 PM
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7. You are right on target!
If the parent's adherence to Catholic doctrine is the criteria for admission, that school'd be pretty empty!
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Undercover Owl Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:23 PM
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13. they should be thinking of the students.
I don't see how having gay parents can be relevant. The kids aren't gay, so what's the big deal?

That gay couple may want to reconsider joining such a judgmental community.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 04:50 PM
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14. Sorry, I meant to acknowledge the school's fairness, but...
I wanted to criticize those other schools who see things differently.

If the parents had not made such a stink, most of their kids would not have known what "gay parents" means.

"Oh, we have to protect our children. So we're going to make a big issue about it so all our children have to hear about it."
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:11 AM
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18. Nice to see a school responding with courage and compassion.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 08:48 AM
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19. INTOLERANCE
IS NOT a moral value.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:49 AM
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20. what a bunch of assholes
n/t
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RUDUing2 Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:01 AM
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21. please remember that catholics are people..there are good ones and
bad ones..there are liberal ones and conservative ones...tolerant ones and intolerant ones...
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RiDuvessa Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:26 AM
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23. Blaming the kids
Besides the intolerance of the opposing parent's stance, which is unacceptable, there is also the fact that they are trying to punish the kids because they don't like something their parents are doing.

Good on the school for standing up to this intolerance.
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