Let's have a Re-Vote in Washington and Ohio

[Raster]

Each state one race only: Governor in Washington state and President in Ohio.

Both elections should be modeled on Oregon's mail-in election, probably the country's cleanest, fairest, best thought out election. 87% participation by registered voters. Because all ballots are signed and mailed in, "spoilage" is kept to a minimum. And once again, because all ballots are paper and mailed in, there is a paper trail readily available for a recount. And to boot, they've found that Oregon's mail-in only elections are 30% cheaper than the old 1960s-era election circuses we put up with. Oh, and one final thing, let's HAND count each and every ballot, with neutral, non-partisan election judges. No optical readers, no proprietary software. And as a wonderful bonus, there wouldn't be anymore dirty tricks at the polling locations. No more goon squads, no more poll challenges, and best of all, no more partisan poll workers.

I could live 100% with the results. If it turns out that a fair, clean, impartial and audit-able election shows Rossi the new governor of WA, great! If it turns out that bush* did not win Ohio, great! Oh and the final stipulation, no more political adds for the re-vote. We've seen enough. The only adds allowed would be to educate the citizens of the process. This could be our trial run. If this works out, we could go national for 2006.

It is time for the American people to stop waiting around for Congress or some other governmental official entity to fix the election process. They won't. They've had PLENTY of opportunity and done nothing. If Americans want fair, clean, simple, auditable elections, we'll have to let EVERYONE in Washington, D.C. know we are mad as hell and will not take it anymore. Anyone who had anything to do with our national elections knew it was a garbled mess. We, as a nation, were promised that there wouldn't be any more (s)Election 2000s.

The dirty little secret about our election system is that if our government wanted to fix our election system to make it fair, transparent and impartially auditable, we could do it immediately. I maintain that far too many persons on both sides of the aisle have no intention of fixing the election system. Wake up America.

[Old and In the Way]

1. Sounds fair to me......Republicans, are you in agreement?

{crickets}

[TWiley]

2. Unfortunately, you will have to live with bush for 4 more years.

annnnnnnd, the assholes who stole the electon in 2000 are more sophisticated, and posess more intrenched power today.

They are not in favor of free and auditable elections. The only way a few can rule the many is to gerrymander the election process.

It is a worthwhile goal, but I am not sure if we have the resourses to make it happen. Understand that the church and the republicans will fight us every step of the way.

[Raster]

3. What do you mean live with * for 4 more years?

I don't believe he won. I believe that if EVERY vote cast for US President in Ohio was fairly, impartially counted, there is no way bush* won. The same goes for Florida. Sorry, ALL indicators say bush* DID NOT WIN.

I do agree that the assholes that threw (s)Election 2000 are further entrenched and possess more power. That's why we are dealing with (s)Election 2004.

This is the paramount ISSUE. Do we want clean, fair, impartial elections that accurately reflect the will of the people? I will wager that an exceedingly large majority of the citizens of this country will answer with a resounding YES, irregardless of party or religious affiliation.

Don't believe the meme that we can't make a difference or we don't have the power. IT'S NOT TRUE!!!

[TWiley]

8. I do agree that unmolested elections are paramount..

The question is, how can we best protect all future elections?

As far as the 2004 election is concerned, I do not believe that old buttwad was elected either. I am just not sure what can be done about it.

Unfortunately, there is little support, and no effective way to remove the rodent from office. Especially when we are looking at both houses controlled by republicraps.

[demwing]

4. Why Washington?

Is it supposed to be a trade off, or do you see the Washington race as being unfair in some way?

[Raster]

6. The repug rossi lost the hand recount by 129 votes. This was the

third recount. rossi and the repug machine are calling for a re-vote because, and I'm paraphrasing here, "...the people can't be sure that this was a fair election because each recount gave a different total..." or some shit like that. My answer is FINE! We'll recount Washington state and Ohio.

[ocnbcsurf]

5. Won't happem

We're stuck with 4 more years of Bush in the White House!

[Tactical Progressive]

7. It's a great idea

Dems should go national with it.

Of course it would never happen. They and we all know that. But it is the perfect platform to hilight what the media won't touch with a ten-foot poll: ongoing Republican corruption of national elections on every sleazy front they could get a statistical advantage, from ten-hour waiting lines to paperless anomolies.

Republicans spotlight whatever distortions they want to. Dems should at least spotlight the truth, and this is a great tit-for-tat way to do it.

[Raster]

9. I'm gonna kick this because I just saw rossi on the news holding a

rally outside of Ft. Lewis, WA. He is now playing the "soldiers didn't get their ballots" card. And let's not get started about the military not getting to vote. rossi is a pig.

[righteous woman]

10. Here! Here!

I second that motion!