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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:54 PM
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Why do freepers hate the UN?
They seem to have a viscous hatred of the United Nations, on general principle.

Does anyone care to guess why this is so?

It was exacerbated by the lead-up to the Iraq war, but it was there before that; it was even there before Bush.

Other than right-wing nut jobs who were paranoid about the One World Government, the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, etc., why would non-nut job right-wingers fear and hate the United Nations?
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:55 PM
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1. Rush told them too.
They aren't exactly free thinkers.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:55 PM
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2. because
some other right winger told them to

righties have little ability to reason
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:56 PM
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3. I don't know much about religion...
but aren't a bunch of them eagerly anticipating the rapture? And doesn't it say something about one world government being in place before this happens?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:58 PM
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6. In that case they would LOVE the UN
whatever can help bring about "the Rapture" is embraced by RWers.
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:07 PM
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13. They really are nuts.
They don't give a damn about the environment and will have it destroyed before all the pieces are in place. What happens if we all die before rapture? lol
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:16 PM
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15. That was exactly the seeds of their paranoia about
the UN. However, they fail to realize that in their zeal to destroy the UN, they are actually substituting the power of an American Empire for the possibility of one world government under the UN. Crazy, huh?
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:49 PM
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21. not so crazy that is the plan
It is all about control, their control. Strict father figure you know.
The whole world must do what say, the way they say when the say.

KL

War Is NOT The Answer
Fear Not
Respect the Troops... bring them home

KL
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:57 PM
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4. Because the US can't control the whole shooting match
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:58 PM
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5. Racism, Paranoia, and the UN not playing yes-man to the U.S.
Racism - Our white, christian nation should never have to get the approval of darkies, towel heads, and heathens

Paranoia - The black helicopters are on their way!

Not playing yes-man - The U.S. is the richest nation in the world, the UN just needs to sit down, shut up, and do whatever we say. It's the golden rule: we have the gold, so we make the rules.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:00 PM
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7. It's not all white...too many darkies and slants...
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:02 PM
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10. They don't count
n/t
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:01 PM
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8. They think it is a step towards world government.
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 03:02 PM by tasteblind
A world government would take precedence over U.S. policies, and we couldn't have that, now could we?

Whether or not an international federalism is a bad idea is a huge can of worms, but most people eye the concept with a healthy degree of skepticism and promise. Everyone says the UN has no teeth, and we refuse, time and time again, to give it teeth by joining the ICC or playing ball on various accords.

Republicans think the concept is inherently evil.

I'm sure there are other people out there infinitely better qualified to take this on, though. I invite those of you out there to do so.

Edit to note: Clinton's legacy may well turn out to be that he pushed the US and the world away from a nation-state paradigm and towards a more global perspective.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:36 PM
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16. UN = Rest of World = Bad
New World Order = US Empire = Good

I think that explains it in a nutshell.

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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:40 PM
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17. Nice summary.
Sounds about right.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:01 PM
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9. Freepers like power and they don't like to share. They were bullies in
grade school and never grew up.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:04 PM
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11. The UN refused to let themselves be bullied into an unnecessary war
They said NO to ignorance and arrogance...they looked at the facts...and didn't do what Bush told them to.

They hate anyone who opposes that ignorant and incompetent moron they call President. And they hate anyone who is smarter then them. That is the reason they hate us, too.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:05 PM
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12. It's a John Birch Society Tradition
They've been bad-mouthing the UN since the 1950s.
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EmpireWeAre Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:14 PM
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14. Like everything else on the Right it's
the product of a well oiled propaganda machine. Hatched in the bowels of a well funded Right Wing Think Tank and disseminated through the thousands of Fascist media outlets, over the years it poisons the minds of the weak, gullible and stupid.

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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:41 PM
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18. Because France is a member
And they have to hate France. Why that is, I don't know. But I did see this on a billboard outside of Chatanooga: "14,500 Americans died at Normandy. Think about that and boycott France"
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:44 PM
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19. They are just
echoing all the rightwing hate spewers like Hannity, Limpjaw, and Ann "the man" Coulter...they were told to hate the UN so that's what they do...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:48 PM
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20. the UN is perceived as an ineffective obstructionist global bureacracy...
...that promotes cooperation with nations of darkies that the freepers would far rather nuke outright.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:20 PM
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22. The roots BEFORE the RW came to power
were laid probably by corporate interests and people hating the Cold War division of the UN. In any event the newest hate, before it became a dog to kick, was the fear that the liberals planned some UN of the World to take over all our sovereignty etc. Fear hatred and intrusion into their me-centric universe, but the opposition to the UN was probably the same as to the League of Nations. Convenient popular isolationism mixed in with not wanting some global overseer to police(or even expose) rotten national adventures and business interest abroad, raising up rivals rather than colonial markets.

How they rope in the goofballs is with isolationist and brave new World fears yet the fear leads them to those same dangers and much worse in the hands of corporate globalists.
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