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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:51 PM
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Levitra... Ask your Doctor for a free sample,,, If an erection lasts for
more than four hours... Christ, I'm getting sick of this shit.

I've known smack dealers that weren't as bold as America's drug companies today. The only drug out there with no record of killing anyone is illegal because Squibb can't put their name on it and it can grow basically wild negating any reasonable way to tax it.

Every day, we are hawked drugs that admit they will fucking kill a percentage of the people who take them. And just about every ad ends with "Ask your doctor." They have turned physicians into dealers. Pay your co-pay and get your drugs.

Is it just me, or is anyone else sick and tired of these companies that spend billions annually on ads for RECREATIONAL drugs and then bitch and moan because we want to buy the drugs that we need to stay alive from a price controlled country?

End of rant.

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:54 PM
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1. I am
What they are doing are creating markets for drugs with no markets to begin with. They think up problems that we do not really have.

It is all about the profit machine.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:08 PM
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10. the profit machine is in creating life long treatements instead of cures..
it is like charging you rent on warding off your disease.. fail to make a payment and you die or suffer horrably.. like if you go one day without being covered by insurance your condition becomes "Existing".. and you pay premium or have to pay it all yourself.. or they just wont accept you.
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InformedSource Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:17 PM
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14. I'm waiting for the Vioxx-like side effects to kick in
Maybe used long term they cause cancer of the crotch or some such thing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:54 PM
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2. I couldn't agree more
And it pisses me off that the price of prescription drugs has risen dramatically at the same time these commercials have taken over our televisions. Anyone else out there tired of paying for the ad budgets of the pharmaceutical companies?
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Be Brave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:54 PM
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3. When drug companies say they spend a lot of money on research,
say BS! I bet they spend much more money on advertising and marketing.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:03 PM
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5. actually is saw a report that said it is about equal to their profits..
our tax money pays for the research.. so it is basically all gravey.. i figure they own the media thru sneeky corporate means.. so they get a large part of it back.. 5 billion can buy a lot of offshore leverage
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:45 PM
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20. Now, now. You know you can't mount a good ad campaign
without doing market research first.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:59 PM
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4. why do they call it "Recreational".? if u are working minimum wage, living
in crack town, with no hope... it is freek'n Essential !!!
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:04 PM
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6. If erection lasts for more than 4 hours
call a bunch of friends over and have a party.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:06 PM
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8. there must be a pill to get rid of erections too...
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:10 PM
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11. *searches for photo of Barbara Bush* (n/t)
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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:12 PM
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13. but why would you want to
it would so impress your friends and neighbors and they would be all jealous.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:42 AM
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29. Atenolol, a beta-blocker used for high blood pressure.
Atenolol kills the libido. For that reason, the ED drugs (Levitra, Viagra, etc) are very appropriate for males on beta-blockers. I say that with some modicum of authority on the matter.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:05 PM
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7. If my erection lasts more than...
... 4 hours, I'm not calling a doctor.... I'm calling the media and everybody I know!!!

Actually, my sweet wife asked me what I was gonna do with the leftover 3 hrs, 59 minutes of a 4 hour erection.

Seriously, there's two issues here... the crooks and theives in the drug business, and the sick view of sex in this country.

I'm growing to look at this country like one would look at some strange planet in another galaxy.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:08 PM
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9. good rant.
The very first time we had the (dis) pleasure of hearing about the 4 hour hard on was during the Super Bowl last year. (that entire broadcast was quite a spectacle of American Christan Morals, huh?) My eldest son, an EMT, was home to watch the game with all of his younger siblings... we just sat there -speechless- until he said, "Man, I hope I never get that call."

yep, we are SICK ( no pun intended) of the sanctioned drug pushing.
-Jude
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:11 PM
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12. I had a conversation with a neighbor who is quite wealthy
about the advertising and health care in America, in general.

I am appalled at the ads I must suffer through when trying ot watch some program.

His answer was that if it were not for the ads, the "people" would not know of the drugs. :shrug:

He owns stock.

I counterpunched with the fact that I thought it should be doctors and pharmacists that should be targeted for knowing about these drugs and not the lay person.

I notice a whole lot of ads for penis enhancing drugs on the teevee.

None for birth control, and none for females who want to control thier family.

There must be a whole lot of males who are having a problem.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:21 PM
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15. Billions on advertisments, and then
saying "no" to price controls because they need money for "research and development," even though they spend next to nothing on that and spend fortunes on the commercials. Yes, I think I'm a bit pissed, too.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:35 PM
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16. Another thing is those same types of commercials...
showing people dancing outside, or some other cheezy shit, by the end, you have no FUCKING clue what the hell its supposed to treat, or what it does at all. What the fuck is the point of that?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:17 PM
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41. Also notice how
they slip in at the very end all the side effects...like these drugs can cause blood diseases, allergic reactions and even DEATH! They stick it in so fast and at the end so that people get so excited and turned onto the drug that the warning disclaimer goes right over their heads. :argh:
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:37 PM
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17. We have a major "erection" in the White House and
it won't go away so I don't really appreciate hearing this crap in drug commercials......and speaking of crap, until all of these prescription drug commercials started airing I had no idea that so many drugs had diarrhea as a major side effect and I don't really appreciate being educated on a daily basis with such bowel knowledge......sorry, I have had a bad day.
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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:37 PM
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18. The Levitra woman makes me cringe.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:57 AM
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27. Me too..."He LIKES the 'quality of response' he gets..."
Aw bullshit, lady, YOU like the fact that now he can plow you like a John Deere prairie buster for 2 hours instead of you having to settle for "69"...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:39 PM
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19. Levitra...
erraaa... ok...
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 08:47 PM
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21. There are anti depressants in the frikkety fish!
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:15 PM
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22. Okay, I have now donned my asbestos undies
>Is it just me, or is anyone else sick and tired of these companies that spend billions annually on ads for RECREATIONAL drugs<

Has it occurred to anyone participating in this thread that yes, there are physical conditions that would require the use of a drug like Levitra to simply have a sex life with one's spouse? Has it also occurred to the same folks that men have a difficult enough time visiting the doctor on a normal cold-or-flu visit, let alone telling one's doctor about what's not happening at home? I don't care for those commercials, either, but having guys like Mike Ditka and professional baseball players actually advertise for it means that there are lots of guys who aren't popping Viagra/Levitra/Cialis just because they wanted to "try it".

If you didn't know, one of the side effects of diabetes, for instance, is impotence. The rate of Type II diabetes has exploded in the United States due to a variety of reasons. There are also other conditions that bring about impotency. Whether or not the parties involved "deserve" to have a sex life is really none of our business. Sex is a fairly important part of a happy marriage. While couples can improvise and try other ways of pleasing each other, I would hazard a guess that most guys like the ol' fashioned way.

IMHO, YMMV.

Julie
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:03 AM
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23. Do you really think that these ads are not trying to target a much wider
base than the people who "need" a hard on?

The market became aparent when viagra was first introduced. And froem the spam I get, you would think that every man in America suffers from EDS.

(No flames)

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teamster633 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:36 AM
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24. Particularly when he's had too many of the beers...
that are invariably advertised on either side of these ED commercials. Yep, get falling down drunk and still be a stud. You really can have it all.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:56 AM
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26. I agree with you, Julie
Having worked in the healthcare profession, there are many, many diseases/disorders that cause impotence or ED. There is a significant quality of life issue for these patients. I don't know many doctors who would prescribe an ED drug just to 'enhance' someone's performance.
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HippieCowgirl Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:37 AM
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35. Word.
I love my fella. But he takes several medications that cause erectile "side effects."

I mean, how would you feel if your sex drive was all revved up into the red zone but no power was getting to the axle? That's what the "little blue pill" is for. It's for restoring a bit of normality to an otherwise screwed up system.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:11 AM
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25. The cure for the 4-hour erection
A painful erection that won't go down is called a Priapism. The cure for it is to read this page:

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2900/2908.asp

in which they describe inserting a needle into the corpus cavernosum and aspirating the excess blood, then using intracavernal injections of muscle relaxants to free the venous sphincters.

The second you find out they stick large needles into your dick to make the hard-on go away, it subsides on its own.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:18 AM
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32. Yikes
I'm not even a guy and it was painful to read this:

Ice packs: Ice applied to the penis and perineum may reduce swelling.
Surgical ligation: Used in cases where an artery has been ruptured, the doctor will ligate (tie off) the artery that is causing the priapism in order to restore normal blood flow.
Intracavernous injection: Used for low-flow priapism, during this treatment drugs known as alpha-agonists are injected into the penis that cause the veins to narrow reducing blood flow to the penis causing the swelling to subside.
Surgical shunt: Also used for low-flow priapism, a shunt is a passageway that is surgically inserted into the penis to divert the blood flow and allow circulation to return to normal.
Aspiration: After numbing the penis, doctors will insert a needle and drain blood from the penis to reduce pressure and swelling.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 09:59 AM
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28. Since more people are Tivo-ing through this crap,
the programs are incorporating more of it into their scripts, which really pisses me off. Before long, entire plot lines will be wrapped around dish soap, Pepsi, Hummers, air fresheners, tampons, and viagra.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:07 AM
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30. The bigger question is why is it important to give middle-age men...
..teenage-like raging hard-ons, but it isn't THAT big of a deal to find a cure for cancer, or AIDS, or MS, or diabetes or....or....


Anybody else think they've got their priorities screwed up?



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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:06 PM
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40. I agree
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 07:20 PM by Piperay
sometimes nature knows best and sometimes we slow down because we are meant to slow down. It's like the stupid ads for crap that lets 'you eat like a 20 year old' even when you are 70. Uh maybe you shouldn't be eating the same kind of crap at 70 as you did at 10 or 20, just cause you don't get heartburn doesn't mean that your old body can digest everything anymore. x(
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:11 AM
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31. How about the ads that don't even say what the hell the drug treats?
Just a woman running through a field, a kid with a puppy, then the disclaimer and side effects.

I envision folks running to their phones to ask their MD if they need to take xxx pill or xxx tablet. "Are you sometimes depressed?" Duh, who isn't. "Are you a little over or underweight?" Yup, like anyone on the planet. "Do come in for a lookover and 3 or 4 new scripts."

Not all docs are like this, I know. Some are, and that's bad enough.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:19 AM
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33. Yet another reason why I don't watch TV.
And for the record, I have seen the Levitra woman ONCE and she was so smug I wanted to slap her.

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Turley Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:25 AM
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34. A polite quibble
Levitra is made by Bayer, a German Company.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:38 PM
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37. Oops, Theyll probably sue me.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:45 AM
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36. Not only that but these ads take time away from the accident
and personal injury ads that the little man needs to see!
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:40 PM
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38. Ask your doctor. Hmmm..think about this statement
with Bush doing the Tort Reform Tour suppose a bill was passed with the wording (in very fine print) If the drug was not physcian suggested, and the patient asked for it, No liability. When the drug fails years down the road, like Vioxx, there will be less pain & suffering awards.
It works for the tobacco industry with the warning labels.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:44 PM
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39. Four hours huh..thats a long time. n/t
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