Is John Conyers wasting his time?

[Tim4319]

After reading how the process work on what needs to be done in order to bring the voter irregularities in Ohio. Will the same thing happen this year that happened in 2000? Will at least one Senator stand-up and protest this years election? Or, is John Conyers wasting his time?



-Snip from the Washington Times-
"The election is over and President Bush won fair and square, so I don't think we need to challenge the election, but we continue to have chronic problems in our voting system," he said. "Some of the practices in Ohio were clearly illegal and disenfranchised voters and, let's be real about this, some Republicans were denied their rights to vote as well."



http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050104-102731-3798r.htm

[0007]

1. Reading the Washington Times is a waste of time.

C'mon you fucking Dems strap on your balls and get to town. Or are all of you afraid of junior?

[KaryninMiami]

3. Well said, damn it (and yes- many do appear to be afraid of Jr).

Also, well stated about the Washington Times which is not exactly, a clearinghouse of libral or even accurate reporting, given who they are...

But from what I've been hearing from insiders in the Democratic party, people just don't want to "make waves" and are indeed, afraid of the wrath of the Bush regime. Mike Malloy on AAR has said it every night that he believes no Dem will stand up because of that fear.

Not giving up hope but this is indeed, a very sad (and frightening) state of affairs.

[Tim4319]

10. Apologies if you disapprove of my source of information.

I am just trying to enlighten myself, and upon my research I came across some information I want to find out more about. Regardless of where I get this particular information from, it is still a concern that history is going to repeat itself, and this time the President has no need to look over shoulder when he is conducting his business. Luckily, there is no third. And, because the Re-Thugs control both houses, impeachment is highly unlikely. I am hoping, some Senator will stand-up and bring a lot of things to light.

[0007]

13. No apology is necessary. I understand!

[demnan]

2. No

I think the Democrats who won't stand up are wasting everyone's time. Conyers is a courageous man who wants to represent his constituents. I would be proud if he were my Congressman.

[knitter4democracy]

4. I wish he were mine

I'm stuck with Upton--the Republicans don't like him because he's too moderate, and he won't work with the Dems. What a waste of a seat in Congress. I wish Conyers had my district too.

[unpossibles]

5. a resounding HELL NO

is it a waste of time to demand accurate and true representation for the very rights that so many have fought and died for?

[Career Prole]

6. If, God forbid, the history books of the future say democracy died

because only one stood up for the truth when the opportunity arose, he'll be able to say "I served democracy".
I don't see that as a waste of time.

[fasttense]

7. Conyers is protecting your right to vote.

But really I don't care if they count your vote. See next time it wont be minorities and college students, next time maybe they target women. They tend to vote more liberal anyway. Or how about they target non-land-holding white males. They are often very liberal. Hey I own over 55 acres I don't have to worry. Then when they finally figure out I vote more liberal than my neighbor and target me and you, well no one is left voting.

[Tim4319]

11. I understand that.

But, if the groups of people you mention continuously express their displeasures with the system, and the powers that be continue to manipulate the system, without any kind of challenge, (except from one person out of two houses)how are the voters rights being totally protected? The people whom we elect in these position, seem to be more concerned about their political status than their constituents. But then again, I could be missing out on something. That is why I like reading information from the DUer's. I am constantly learning something from this site.

[Vidar]

8. Heroism in the cause of liberty is not a waste of time.

[Tim4319]

12. I understand that too.

But, my question is, is that a morale victory? The whole world knows the last two elections fixed! But, if our representatives aren't totally exhausting all resources, or standing together and putting forth an effort to get to the bottom of these issues what was so good about speaking out? There is strength in numbers! John Conyers cannot not do this by himself. He/we need someone from the other house to put their ego aside and at least present some sort of front. I remember what happen in 2000, and all one senator had to do was stand-up, and I am positive we, as a country, would not be the predicament we are in now!

[Is It Fascism Yet]

9. Isn't the Washington Times the one that is Moonie owned?

So, of course, if it is owned by a power mongering egomaniac like Moonie, who obscenely had himself crowned "Emperor of the Universe", then of course, it has no credibility whatsoever.

[journalist3072]

14. Rep. Conyers

God Bless John Conyers, he is standing up to raise an issue that needs to be on the front page of every newspaper right now, and that's voting rights.

It is absolutely inexcusable that African-American neighborhoods in Ohio had fewer voting machines than White neighborhoods. It makes no sense that while lines stretched far outside the door (in the rain, no less) in African-American neighborhoods, some voters in White neighborhoods had to wait only 15 minutes to vote.

Was that quote about Bush winning "fair and square" from Conyers? I hope it wasn't. If it was, I take issue with him on that. We don't KNOW if Bush won 'fare and square' because so many people who intended to vote were disenfranchised.