Bush has a one in a million chance for real peace with honor in Iraq now

[NNN0LHI]

He could say to Ayatollah Sistani (I mean his minions could say, because he would screw it all up), listen, we would really like to stay here in Iraq and continue liberating you Iraqis, but we have got a big problem on our hands. We have just had perhaps the worst disaster in modern times occur with this tsunami. Many have died already and if we don't get more help there quickly many more are going to die. And our military is stretched so thin we just can't handle both of these things at one time. Plus you guys are shooting at us and those guys are happy to see us.

So, (got to say this real fast) we are going to leave Iraq. We are calling for an immediate complete cease fire with all you Iraqis until the election. At that point you either can vote or don't vote. We don't really care. The day after the election the US will begin pulling its troops out in an orderly fashion, and should have it all wrapped up within three months. We still have the billions of dollars allocated for reconstruction and those monies will be paid to the new Iraqi government(s) as the reconstruction proceeds if you agree to this offer. We have been very happy to be of help to you, and its been real, we wish you all the best, hope to stay friends, but we are out of here. See ya.

What do you think?

Don

[disillusioned1]

1. Peace isn't profitable eom

[TheKingfish]

2. Nonsense

Sistani is not fighting US soldiers, he is using them as pawns in a civil war!

[NNN0LHI]

8. You got to turn the place over to somebody. He would be the logical guy nt

[nostamj]

3. i think...

that we are never leaving Iraq.

14 permanent millitary bases and the largest embassy in the history of embassies.

powell said today that the tsunami devastation was much worse than war. so, Iraq, compared with South Asia, is really doing pretty well!

:eyes:

[LynnTheDem]

4. WHY YOU...YOU...YOU BUSH LOYALIST!!!

GEEEZ just tilt the odds a wee bit MORE to bush's favor already why dontcha!

One in a million! Everyone KNOWS it's only one in a trillion!

Sheeeeesh!!!

MODS!!!!!!! We gotta live one!!!


:D :D :D

[politicaholic]

10. LOL!! n/t

[TheKingfish]

12. Its like Jim Carey in Dumb and Dumber

"So yoooouuuu're saying ive got a chance?"

[Bouncy Ball]

5. He would NEVER do something as sane as that.

Never.

You reminded me of a dream I had last night. There were all these people, ordinary citizens of countries all over the world, including the US, just begging and screaming for a cease fire in Iraq.

Well, this weird guy came out of nowhere (didn't recognize him at all) and said "If there is no cease fire, what has happened up until now in Iraq will look like a Sunday stroll in the park."

Well, bush didn't agree to calling a cease fire and the rest of my dream was just deaths, deaths, more deaths, Iraqi deaths, US deaths, on and on and on.

No more Nyquil for me.

Anyway, I like your idea, but he'd never do it. It's not profitable.

[ProfessorPlum]

6. You are assuming that Bush wants out of Iraq

all signs point otherwise.

[LynnTheDem]

7. That would be about the last possible way out w any "honor" so to speak

but I too think we're going to be Iraqmired for many mroe years to come. bushCartel just want that geopolitical (and oil) base far too much. And we already know they don't give a damn about our troops...they're FUNGIBLE anyways. :eyes:

[politicaholic]

9. Um, that's a realllllly bad idea.

The US has a lot more at stake there like:

There's a heck of a lot more oil left

The GOP would be cutting their constituants like Halliburton, Bektel, and Worldcom off at the knees. That means no "Jeb in '08" posters.

The police were trained in policing, but weren't trained in living through a car bomb.

Most of the government officials up for election had ties to Saddam's regime. Ooops, people like the 'media' keep on forgetting that.

The people of Iraq see how well Iran is being run and though they had a war that lasted off and on for 50 years with them, fundamentalism looks like it works a LOT better than democracy at this point.

Sure, pull out. Then, let steep like turkish coffe and reinvade in 15 years.

[LynnTheDem]

14. *SNORT*

rotfl!!!

[FreeCajun]

11. Kerry would've done it.

Face saving and effective, added some outreach to the Iraqi people, brought them on board, and helped them up out of the mess. Now, we're F*cked. B*sh is such a p*ssp*t we'll never be out of there.

[PurityOfEssence]

13. I always hated that term

Peace with honor just reeks of Nixonian vindictiveness, and in many ways, Junior is the same sort of petty and small-minded score-settler.

It's "honor" and ego that get nations into idiotic wars so often, and making sure our manliness isn't questioned sustains us in idiotic situations. The thought of how many people have to die and get hurt so we can stand tall as big swaggering cowboys is sickening.

There's a pretty good argument to be made that the major reason we went there in the first place is to puff up and strut to show the world that we'd smash anyone who bugged us and that we meant business. Junior is a classic example of a truly small person who revels in bossing people around and bending them to his will.

Enough of that, though. We're not leaving Iraq. We'll be there until we've sucked the last drop of oil out of the ground, and we'll use it as a base to muscle everyone else in the area and sustain Israel.

Don't underestimate the fundamentalist mindset: it will be seen as an even more noble endeavor as it goes to hell. Don't those people know how nobly we're spilling our blood and treasure out of the goodness of our hearts? The worse it gets, the more altruistic and godly we are.

These guys truly feel that they can bring the world to heel like a bad dog, and they'll twist and lie to any extent they need. They're so firmly convinced of their god-given superiority that they simply can't fail. That's how the Nazis lost.

[NNN0LHI]

15. "That's how the Nazis lost." Didn't do the Romans much good either n/t

[PurityOfEssence]

16. Boy, ya got that right

History is littered with peoples who thought they were genetically or culturally superior, and it just goes on and on. The South in the American Civil War is another. The Japanese in WW2 also fit the mold. The British have done it lots of times.

Once again, it's amazing how conservatives, who are so madly in love with the past, never seem to know their history.