Crossfire cancelled!!!

[Bush_Sucks]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050105/ap_en_tv/tv_carlson_crossfire

"I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp," Klein (chief exec of CNN) told The Associated Press.

He said all of the cable networks, including CNN, have overdosed on programming devoted to arguing over issues. Klein said he wants more substantive programming that is still compelling.

"I doubt that when the president sits down with his advisers they scream at him to bring him up to date on all of the issues," he said. "I don't know why we don't treat the audience with the same respect."

[givemebackmycountry]

1. Awwww

What's poor Tucker going to do?

[coloradodem2005]

6. I was thinking more about Novak.

Motherfucker.

[aWaKeNoW]

9. (noting your avatar: Go Broncos!!!!)

:D

[Bronco69]

24. You rang? n/t

[txaslftist]

54. ROCK ON JOHN STEWART !!!!

[Poiuyt]

59. I heard Tucker was getting his own show

On MSNBC

[Dulcinea]

65. He's going to MSNBC. eom

[ExclamationPoint]

2. Really?!

Woop dee doo.

[roguevalley]

11. Good. Stewart was right. Everyone lost their reputation on that one.

[metisnation]

3. Tucker

Piece of Shit...plan on seeing him on msrnc and faux news tabliods soon.

[candy]

7. Is Tucker still on PBS? n/t

[Eric J in MN]

23. The article says he is (nt)

nt

[candy]

27. Oops! Too quick on the trigger when posting----Thanks n/t

[bigwillq]

4. Just another way the media is trying to silence our voice

So let's not give the DEMS or left-wing supporters any say now.


edit: I know the right-wing has a few voices on that show but imo it hurts the DEMS more

[NuttyFluffers]

10. dare i say you give crossfire too much credit?

;) or was that sublime sarcasm :evilgrin:

[bigwillq]

15. Wasn't giving Crossfire all that much credit

My point is, I didn't make that clear, is that Shrub and Co are in power (sadly) so media shows do they're best to kiss the righ-wing's ass-

With Crossfire, the left-wing got a chance to express their voice
and now that it's cancelled there's one less outlet for our voices to be heard.

Does that make sense?

[Mike Daniels]

64. Did anyone in history ever learn anything watching Crossfire?

Even at 60 minutes is was a screaming match run by producers who didn't have the guts to cut someone's microphone when a person kept talking over another person trying to make a point.

[K-W]

26. That isnt fair, you dont know what new programming they have in mind.

We must not forget that alot of these people arent conspiring against us. Alot of them just believe myths with no malice.

Recent trends have shown that there is a significant liberal democraphic that can be marketed to.

Lets see what they do next before judging them on removing a horrible show that only pretended to be fair to democrats.

[bigwillq]

36. True, true

I see your point.


I don't really think that it pretended to be fair to dems or that it was all that horrible of a show, I enjoyed watching it at times.

I was just trying to say, they took away a show that gave some of us left-wingers a voice. I hope they do improve their programming and I will nbow wait to judge them after I see what they're up to.

[jdj]

47. what I hope is that they saw Olberman's ratings jump %125 when

he covered the election fraud, it may have woken people up to the fact that their is an actual audience out there to sell stuff to if they are actually motivated to watch the show.

[GreenPartyVoter]

57. Wonder if Carville and Begala will regroup and try to put together a

REAL hardhitting show for liberals?


Nah. *l*

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[NuttyFluffers]

5. i'll take this as our ignoring of CNN is working.

and i'll continue to ignore them and all all-news cable channels (except C-SPAN) until they are all money losing ventures. i invite others to do the same. ignored to death = gets their attention and their obedience.

hear that media? heel!

[K-W]

28. Actually, if you never watch, they just write you off.

They have to think they can reach you for it to be an incentive for them to change.

[jrthin]

32. I'm with you.

Haven't watched any of the cablenews since the election, and I have no plans to ever resume watching. I find that since I've gotten these whores out of my life, I feel calmer and saner.

[Cleita]

8. So what. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

I haven't watched them in a year, except for the time Jon Stewart handed Tucker's ass to him.

[Florida_Geek]

13. When it was at 7:30 at night this working person watched it

but the move to 4:30 killed the show for many.

[Cleita]

19. You didn't miss anything.

The show went downhill when they reformatted it and replaced Bill Press with Paul Begala.

[SmokingJacket]

55. I think -- I hope -- that show marked a turning point.

Carlson's assininity was on full view to the world, thanks to Stewart.

Hope it shook some people up.

[xray s]

12. I cancelled Crossfire three years ago

CNN is just a johnny-come-lately on this idea.

[HootieMcBoob]

14. Good news - I think

If they do replace it with a show that is more respectful of the intelligence of the audience it will be a very good thing. I'm not going to hold my breath though, for the last few years it's been all about who can outFox Fox.

I have to believe that Jon Stewart's appearance and all the mail they must have received afterward backing him up had a lot to do with it. Maybe also the impending indictment of Mr. Nofacts :)

[coloradodem2005]

39. They are indicting NoFacts?

That would make me happy.


Hang the motherfucker high.

[housewolf]

16. Hooo-rayyyyy! n/t

[LanternWaste]

17. Question from someone who's only seen one ep of Crossfire...

I said in another post re: Crossfire that the only ep I'd seen was the John Stewart appearance (and that was merely a streaming video link supplied by JS fans at DU).

My question: Is the cancellation simply a tweaking of the marketplace and demographic numbers of the show or did Stewart really shake up the set enough and act as a catalyst for the cancellation?

[Eric J in MN]

22. It's not because of Jon Stewart. The article says that

Crossfire's rating are down, and a new exectuive is in charge who dislikes the show.

[K-W]

29. But Stewert made himself a part of it.

That is what matters. Because stewert had guts and put himself out there he became a part of any discussion about crossfire.

[Eric J in MN]

33. OK, that is valid, too (nt)

nt

[LanternWaste]

37. That's along the lines I've been thinking

That's along the lines I've been thinking. The vast majority of my friends are apolitical, but the buzz about JS's appearance on that one particular ep had even them talking about it- and when my portfolio-oriented, gucci-branded, gel-haired friends talk about *anything* political, my jaw dropps and I begin to wonder...

Again, I tend to stay away from talk-show (whether radio or TV) and only see the fallout, rarely the eruption...

[LanternWaste]

31. Thanks.eom

Thanks.eom

[blondeatlast]

18. Happy dance! Happy dance! Happy dance!

So what kind of major league worse crap will replace it?

And worse yet, who?

And I'm NOT a cynic, so stop saying that!

[NurseLefty]

20. Besides, the art of debate is now an exercise in futility.

If you put it kindly and think of Crossfire as a show featuring political debate, what good does it do, anyway?
Republican president, republican house and senate, republican supreme court (at least leaning that way) - what is there to debate?
After subjecting myself to Meet the Press last weekend, I have concluded that MSM does not care whether half of America (OUR half, that is) tunes in.
(Of course there is PLENTY to debate - my point is that MSM is lockstepping w/ repukes.)

[Eric J in MN]

21. "Out of respect for him and his talent," we told Carlson to go!

"Out of respect for him and his talent, we thought it would be best to let him explore opportunities elsewhere." - Jonathan Klein, CNN executive.

Every channel should follow that philosophy:
Tell Carlson to go somewhere else, "out of respect for him and his talent."

Unfortunately, it looks like Tucker Carlson will be on MSNBC:

"We think Tucker is a great journalist and we're exploring our options for a new 9 p.m. show," said MSNBC's Jeremy Gaines.

[K-W]

30. TUCKER CARLSON ISNT A JOURNALIST ARE THESE PEOPLE CRAZY!

:/

[Eric J in MN]

35. A journalist puts the truth first. Tucker Carlson likes misleading

the public by saying that more people believe in UFOs than that Social Sec. will be there for them, so Bush must be right.

[NewJeffCT]

40. that's odd - Carlson subbed for Aaron Brown just last week

He was on several nights in place of Brown... seems odd that he's gone, as I'd think that was moving up?

[lovuian]

25. i stopped watching it 4 years ago It was pathetic

:bounce: Novak disgusts me!!! He's a traitor to this country and I think many Americans think that too!!! This is another point of evidence that shows You support Bush your ratings go down and your out of a job!!!

[Downtown Hound]

34. See what happens when we stop watching everybody?

They change. Everyone, quit watching corporate news, it's that simple. Write them and tell them you want better programming and not the hate filled, flag waving jingoism that's been filling the airwaves for the past few years. And watch their ratings go down the toilet. You better believe they will change then.

[Plaid Adder]

38. Aww! But I was just starting to loathe him!

Not having cable, I have been preserved from all this...but I happened to catch about 10 minutes of *Crossfire* a couple weeks ago and I was unbelievably appalled. It's too bad he fetched up on PBS, but I'm glad they've excised him from CNN. What a bloviating asshole!

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[blondeatlast]

41. Sorry you had to come so late for the party that the guest of honor

has already been "requested" to leave.

I've had the privilege of loathing him for YEARS. It's pretty easy to do, once you get the hang of it (and I suspect you already have!).

[Cobalt Violet]

42. It just clear up the time for them to put on something 100% RW

[Liberal_Dog]

43. The Handwriting Was On The Wall

When they took Crossfire out of prime time.

[onecitizen]

44. Now, Klein.......

do something about it!

[Swamp Rat]

45. Good riddance!

[Nikepallas]

46. BEST NEWS I"VE HEARD....

It was the worst show I ever saw and I truely believe degrated our political process.

[Sparkly]

48. Crossfire sort of grew out of "Spin Room" -- remember that?

That show was actually pretty entertaining -- of course it was before the Bush Regime and all the horrors they created, back when things were fairly normal and levity was easy. Bill Press and Tucker were hosts. Who else remembers it?

[Cleita]

61. I loved the Spin Room. I couldn't believe they cancelled it.

Looking back though now, I see they were trying to get rid of Bill Press, who is fairly liberal in his views. Bill also could put Tucker in his place gently without making him look bad. When Tucker was on his own, then the shrill Bush shill emerged.

[REP]

49. Jon Stewart Vindicated Big Time

Not that he needed it, but I bet there's one happy Fake News Anchor tonight! Stewart deserves some credit for this turn of events; his plea for them to "stop hurting America" was obviously taken seriously.

[malaise]

56. Not only John Stewart vindicated here

DU must also take credit for keeping up the pressure on all 'presstitutes'.

[Cookie wookie]

50. All hail Jon Stewart

He always seemed embarrassed by his standing up for the truth on the show. Oh to be a fly on the wall when he heard that news.

[King Coal]

51. I think there is a real possibility that Nofacts is in for some heat.

And CNN wants to not be associated with Crossfire or him.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

60. Novakula still has

two other shows on CNN . Capital Gang & Novakula Zone.

[Cleita]

62. Novakula Zone?

Never heard about that one. When was it on, two in the morning?

[obnoxiousdrunk]

67. Sometime on the

weekend. Not sure if it is still on. It was there in those days that I used to watch CNN.

[Buns_of_Fire]

63. Not for long...

...The network also plans to end "Capital Gang," the long-running Saturday night panel show created by Novak, later this year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52274-2005Jan6.html

(The site requires registration, but that's why Al Gore invented http://www.bugmenot.com along with the internets. ;-) )

[tx_dem41]

52. Great news for those that want reasoned, intelligent discussion n/t

[CWebster]

53. Like that sneering Dennis Miller?

How does he stay afloat?

[Dulcinea]

66. Is he even still on?

He sucks. What a waste of satellite time.

[MsTryska]

58. *lol* I love that they gave

fucker a chance to try out another role before canning him and then canned him anyway. he must have sucked.