Doctors are in it for the money - who cares about the patient

[devilgrrl]

Just calling a spade a spade.

The push for reforms to medical malpractice suits makes that fact abundantly clear. Many medical doctors could give a flying rats ass about peoples physical health. They just want to make money - end of story.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Not my doc, but then I live in a small town so we all know each other

She did have to give up delivering babies though, because the insurance was too high.


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[BlueEyedSon]

2. Yeah, and lawyers too. And stockbrokers. And computer programmers

and waiters. They all do it for the money. BASTARDS!

[devilgrrl]

5. We're talking about doctors

Keep with the subject!

Also, why shouldn't I jump to a conclusion such as I did? It's hard not to when one is presented with the likes of Bill Frist.

[comsymp]

18. Why shouldn't you jump to a conclusion such as you did?

How 'bout, gross generalizations are invariably incorrect?

If I dig up a story about Mike Tyson's "difficulties", does that mean that all African-Americans are thugs?

Or Fred Phelps - are all Christians loons?

How 'bout Ann Coulter - are all hermaphrodites deranged?

Or look at the recent brouhaha over Faux/NYT & DU - are we all tinfoilers?


For context, I spent 18 years in the healthcare field, working directly with doctors and nurses in hospitals and private practice. Some are appallingly greedy, some are altruistic to a fault. Kinda like any other profession.

[devilgrrl]

22. Republicans are evil...

that's not a gross generalization - it's a fact.

[comsymp]

24. Thanks, I'll be sure to mention that to my "evil" Republican parents

:eyes:

[BlueEyedSon]

25. 3 out of 3 doc I know personally (friends & family) are dems & hate

Bush. 2 are veterans. 1 was career Navy.
Take your unsubstantiated opinions about physicians elsewhere.

[KurtNYC]

23. Did you factor this group into your conclusion

http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/

MSF was founded in 1971 by a small group of French doctors who believed that all people have the right to medical care regardless of race,religion, creed or political affiliation, and that the needs of these people supersede respect for national borders. It was the first non-governmental organization to both provide emergency medical assistance and publicly bear witness to the plight of the populations they served.

A private, nonprofit organization, MSF is at the forefront of emergency health care as well as care for populations suffering from endemic diseases and neglect. MSF provides primary health care, performs surgery, rehabilitates hospitals and clinics, runs nutrition and sanitation programs, trains local medical personnel, and provides mental health care. Through longer-term programs, MSF treats chronic diseases such as tuberculosis, malaria, sleeping sickness, and AIDS; assists with the medical and psychological problems of marginalized populations including street children and ethnic minorities; and brings health care to remote, isolated areas where resources and training are limited.

[comsymp]

26. Greedy bastards

They're even worse than some of the monsters mentioned here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=physicians+volunteer

[Bridget Burke]

3. Quite a few of them do.

The ones who don't have time to appear in a Bush photo-op. The ones who are busy with patient care, research & fighting the insurance companies for permission to treat their patients.

[koopie57]

15. amen eom

[devilgrrl]

20. Shame we won't hear a thing from them about this latest scam...

courtesy of the Bush Crime Family

[Steve2525]

4. Some do, and there are some that are in it for love of medicine

having worked with many doctors it isn't hard to tell the difference.

it is true that malpractice insurance is a huge cost for docs, and the actual cost of malpractice suits is a small percentage of real health care costs.

nobody likes being sued, for docs it makes it harder to get insurance and they have to list it on every credentialing form they fill out whether the suit has merit or not.

real health care reform has to address all aspects of health care: docs, practice patterns, patients, insurance, etc.

but there really are some that love medicine.

[devilgrrl]

7. That's why said "many doctors" not "all doctors"

:shrug:

[Steve2525]

9. Got it! Agree 100% n/t

[Mika]

10. Not your thread title. It says "doctors are in it for the money"

flip flop?

[devilgrrl]

12. No - FLIP OFF!

git!

[Mika]

16. Flip flop

Your title and your post body are contradictions


Flippity flop


btw, I'm a Dr

[devilgrrl]

17. So what.

[Catchawave]

6. Read John Edwards' "Four Trials"......

..should be required reading for all DUers :)

[Mika]

8. Yer with us, or yer agin us

black or white

end of story

:puke:

[devilgrrl]

11. Yeah, Bill Frist! He so cares for humanity!

NOT!

[koopie57]

13. I work in the lab

at a local hospital for a group of pathologists. I am in contact with surgeons, oncologists, etc. There are some who I would not trust with my care, but there are some very find and dedicated doctors. I hear the discussions, concerns, worries, plus they also need to make sure their decision is sound enough to not get sued, for insurance to pay, etc. Some are doing their job, the bare minimum, but those who go above and beyond, you would be humbled.

[devilgrrl]

14. I'm glad to hear that...

now let's hope they stand up to assholes like Bill Frist and that jerk that displays that Democratic graveyard over Halloween.

[Mika]

27. Using Bill Frist as THE standard of doctors is ridiculous

black or white - using a broken measuring stick

Its downright insulting too

[devilgrrl]

31. Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly!

The reason I make these outrageous accusations is that I hope that I'm proven wrong and that it incites action against people - in any profession - that are strictly involved for greedy purposes.

So there, many thanks to doctors that truly do care about their patients and humanity in general.

[ernstbass]

32. I also work in a hospital and I agree w/ you -

some of the docs I work with would do anything for their patients and others are motivated by the almighty dollar. Most are somewhere in between.

[radwriter0555]

19. This is why I try to only see female doctors. Men are far more likely to b

be in medicine for financial gain -- one of the reasons I NEVER go to a male ob/gyn, them mens just shouldn't BE there! -- and I have historically found over the years that female doctors spend more time with patients and just... care more. We're natural care givers.

[Cleita]

21. Many are. I know because I have worked for them.

However, most of even the most money mad still take pride in their work. The difference between compassionate doctors and the money mad doctors is that the former will still treat patients regardless of their ability to pay. The latter are only interested in your insurance plan and will often refuse Medicare and Medicaid patients, as well as those with no insurance.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. There Are The Mendacious Among Every Group

eom

[tsuki]

29. When I was diagnosed with Ovarian Cancer, my doctors went the extra mile

even though most of them had no idea who I was. I met most of them after the diagnosis. This year, 15 years free. I cannot believe that a doctor would go to school for as long as they do, and shave approximately 10 years from their life span if money was all they cared about.

I have noticed that after a while a certain "hardening of the heart" takes place. But as an oncologist, how can you watch your patients suffer and die without distancing yourself somehow?

I had no insurance; I got the best of care. It took me ten years to pay back the debt, but they never thought I would last that long. I went in with 15%.

Of course, now they fete me. I am the longest stage 4 they have ever had survive. I am one of their successes.

I love them.

[flobee1kenobi]

30. in ANY profession

weather its football, law, medical, whatever-
If you are there with profit as goal#1
all the other goals WILL suffer

If a Lawyer lets financial gain trump the clients rights--BAD
If a doctor lets financial gain trum patient health--BAD
If Pfizer lets financial gain trump producing quality drugs--BAD

If you study to be a doctor in order to become a millionare and NOT to help the Ill-I don't want YOU as MY doctor because my health is not your primary concern, which is why I would see a doctor

[idiosyncratic]

33. Some are. Some aren't. It is hard to find the really good ones

IMHO.