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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:03 AM
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Caroline Kennedy, Oprah, or Tom Hanks for President?
On his second interview on this morning's TODAY show, Michael Moore said that despite the fact that the Republicans claim to "hate Hollywood" their most successful presidential elections have come from running "stars," and that the Democrats have to find another star of their own. He reminded everyone that Kennedy and Clinton were both "stars" (of sorts) and that that was the kind of candidate we should be seeking. He specifically said that Bayh was NOT a star of presidential material.

When Couric (yuk)asked him for specifics he said that Tom Hanks would be his personal favorite, but also mentioned Caroline Kennedy (someone I had never thought about running before, but it makes sense if she would be interested) or Oprah. He said, "Who wouldn't vote for Oprah? (Personally, she is not a favorite tv personality of mine...but...what the hell.)

Your opinions, suggestions, feelings about "stars?"
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:11 AM
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1. Pee Wee for President!
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:30 AM
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3. Awww...come on now...
Moore was being serious! Running Pee-Wee would be like running Anna Nicole Smith. :)

I mean, the rw has Arnold...who have we got?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:28 AM
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9. He may have been serious...
but i find it a pathetically sad commentary on our society
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:00 PM
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14. Ok... You want a real New Yorker that can kick some ass? DeNIRO
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 05:02 PM by tk2kewl
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:11 PM
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17. THATS fuckin AWESOME
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:15 AM
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2. Too bad Redford, Newman, and Sheen have all said no
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Election reform can help save this country!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:18 AM
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7. I say we draft Redford . . .
Sundance for President! . . . got a nice ring to it . . .
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:08 AM
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4. Opraization vs. Arnoldization of candidates
The other day I started a thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1470793 wondering of whether these are the only candidates we should have, that carry their hearts on their sleeves.

Moore interview just confirmed it. I have always knew that Bush was just a prop for the RWers, the way Reagan was: a pretty face who would say and do what is told. And Moore, I suppose, is correct that the Republicans have good set designers, and script writers etc.

He said that the voters want a candidate with whom they can get a visceral reaction and his examples were just that, and example.

Sadly, I have to agree with him. As we have noticed too many times, the American voters distrust intellectuals, do not want to be bothered about thinking - otherwise they would know that the policy of cutting taxes and increasing spending is bad - and just want a soothing vote and a happy face.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:45 AM
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10. Exactly!
While I agree that it is a sad commentary on our governmental affairs to have to reach for "stars" because of their appeal to the masses, I think we have to understand what the public will choose and what they will reject. And there ARE "stars" out there who are also intelligent.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:12 AM
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5. Oprah
I know that Oprah is not liked by many people here, but I think she would be ideal. She is so mainstream and so well liked.....like MM said, who wouldn't vote for her? She is an amazing humanitarian and has done a lot to bring many important, taboo issues to mainstream America. She is filthy rich yet beyond generous. No one can deny that. I could go on and on. She'd have my vote, hands down. :D
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:17 AM
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6. I'll second that. Oprah or previously Phil Donahue have far better
political credentials than second-rate actors like arnold or raygun.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:17 PM
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18. Oprah "pushed" for the war in Iraq & helped get the Gropenator elected.
I've come to the conclusion that she is as dumb as a box of rocks for falling for the Iraq b.s.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:20 AM
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8. I don't think Oprah is a Democrat.
Caroline Kennedy has stated that she doesn't want to be in politics that much. Tom Hanks? Maybe, if that's what it takes, but it really won't happen.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:47 AM
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11. Hanks has also said that he
is not interested.
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:56 AM
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13. I don't think
she is a Repug either.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:48 AM
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12. horse manure
Show me a rock solid, smart, stand up, no nonsense democrat who will stand up for our principles, and I'll show you a star.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:06 PM
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15. Try Howard Dean
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 06:50 PM
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20. He is a star...
A screamin, no-shit rock star.

Dean for president.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:08 PM
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16. Lounge subject....n/t
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 05:20 PM
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19. I'm going for a Robin Wiliiams/George Carlin ticket in 08.
Both bright and politically savvy.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:00 PM
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21. Caroline Kennedy with Chelsea Clinton as Veep

Caroline is a strong privacy rights advocate which we really need now and Chelsea has Bills charisma.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:16 PM
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22. Mr. Big / Andy Dick Ticket
Think of the bumperstickers
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:23 PM
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23. Out of those three only Oprah has shown the stuff needed
Tom Hanks, despite his cloying "everyman" roles, has not shown himself to anything more than the typical self-absorbed actor.

I could concievably get behind Oprah, though she seems a bit out of touch with working-class and poor people...
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 07:25 PM
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24. ex-cia directors their sons and movie stars as leaders...
what will it take for people to wake up and smell that fascist bacon
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