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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:24 AM
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Why I am proud to be a CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
Because in my over thirty years of being heavily involved in many a conspiracy, I have come to the understanding that WHERE THERE IS SMOKE, THERE IS USUALLY FIRE, OR THE MAKINGS OF FIRE.

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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:26 AM
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1. damn straight
there's a bonfire here
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:26 AM
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2. White smoke usually sign that Vatican has chosen Papal
successor. White House to adopt similar strategy for 2008 election candidate?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:29 AM
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3. I see smoke when Jesus makes the shotgun sound.
The fire follows closely, especially when something's burning in the oven.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:33 AM
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5. I see smoke when the spliff's being passed round....
now that feels better.........
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:31 AM
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4. But what it it's mist, or fog,
or even just a dust cloud?

...there would be no fire then.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:33 AM
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6. It's amazing how many thoughts and analysis of the so-called.........
.."lunatic fringe" emerged over 4 years to be spewed by talking heads and investigative committees, etc. So much that we have talked about and uncovered has emerged as the truth. What pisses me is that these overpaid lazy bastards who are suppose to be the great political thinkers and analysts first laughed and scorned us and then later tried to pass off our 'work' as their own deep thinking.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:42 AM
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7. Manure Burns Too.
Edited on Thu Jan-06-05 11:43 AM by arwalden
and if you follow that smoke to its source... you still have manure.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:54 AM
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11. and not all fires are manure..
some are..some are not! But if you do not investigate it, you will never know!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:07 PM
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13. Have You Never Smelled A Manure Fire?
:eyes:
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:13 PM
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14. Ha!
yep, i have..hahaha...and, if we were actually talking about manure here, i would agree with you.
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:06 PM
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12. Manure just BS
It seems to gather in DC when congress is in session!
A huge pile can get hot enough to start a long heat wave.
It might be good that we never "cool". Just keep the fan going till the hot stuff hits it!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:44 AM
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8. Maybe this "smoking gun" will be Cheney's proverbial "atomic bomb"
Ground zero: Bush.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:47 AM
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9. Just call it smart research
The power maggots can't shut down truth seekers and kill everyone that doesn't buy thier "case closed " deception tactics.
What the fundis of all stripes want is a skepticism of scepticism .It is human nature to question and educate,entertainment is a reward not a substitute for truth.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:50 AM
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10. "Conspiracy theorists" today used to be called
investigative journalists.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:22 PM
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17. Hee heeeee! Funny!
You know you're insulting investigative journalists, right?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:17 PM
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15. from "Conspiracy and the State of the Union" by Jamey Hecht
The Term "Conspiracy Theory"

This phrase is among the tireless workhorses of establishment discourse. Without it, disinformation would be much harder than it is. “Conspiracy theory” is a trigger phrase, saturated with intellectual contempt and deeply anti-intellectual resentment. It makes little sense on its own, and while it’s a priceless tool of propaganda, it is worse than useless as an explanatory category.

“Theory” is a term from Plato, derived from the Ancient Greek theorein, “to see.” From it we get the word “theater.” Theory is a conceptual overview of the way something works. In science, the word refers to a guiding set of concepts derived from testable hypotheses about a domain of facts in nature or procedures in an art.<6>

When the evidence is gathered together, some observer sees it in such a way that it configures an hypothesis. When that hypothesis is verified by induction and experiment, it can be gathered together with similar hypotheses from analogous cases.

If we say, 9-11 was orchestrated by the bin Laden organization, the Pakistani intelligence agency, and elements of the neoconservative group that seized power in 2000, that’s an hypothesis, derived logically from a set of documented facts that constitute evidence. It isn’t a theory. It can become part of a theory if it’s joined with other hypotheses into a coherent descriptive pattern that can help to predict future events in general terms.

For instance, the amply demonstrated hypothesis that the 35th President of the United States was murdered by a consortium of interests including the CIA, Cuban exiles, organized crime, and the military. 11-22 and 9-11 are examples of premeditated murder by more than one person – in law, they are cases of conspiracy to commit murder (and fraud, and perjury, and treason). Taken together, they imply a theory whose greatest expression is the work of Peter Dale Scott, who coined the term deep politics: “the constant, everyday interaction between the constitutionally elected government and forces of violence, forces of crime, which appear to be the enemies of that government.”<7> Deep politics is a robust theory, a powerful explanatory account of demonstrable phenomena; it applies to myriad cases and offers a unified understanding of their causes and meanings. Like Goethe’s conceptual account of color, and like Newton’s rival account which refuted it, Scott’s deep-political theory applies uniformly to the domain it describes.

http://www.911inquiry.org/Presentations/JameyHecht.htm
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:19 PM
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16. Yes, and when there's white puffy clouds trailing behind airplanes...
there's dangerous mind altering chemicals put there by the government.
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