---Joint Session Thread#2----

[maveric]

Here we go!

[Khephra]

1. Thanks Maveric!

:hi:

[maveric]

6. Your welcome!

:pals:

[underpants]

2. Who or WHAT is that on her head?

Yikes!

[AlCzervik]

3. God damn these republicans!!!!!

these reps standing up for whats right is inspiring. Republicans are recists, classists bags of shit. whats next, a poll tax?

[Cobalt Violet]

4. Who has voted against certification in the Senate so far?

[maveric]

5. Bob Ney telling dems to let it go.

"There's no such thing as a perfect election".

[Khephra]

7. Man, I wish I'd have waited to eat until this was over

Ney and the rest of the Repugs are making me ill.

[frylock]

8. what's the over/under on references to michael moore?

:shrug:

[RedSock]

10. Wyden from Oregon

standing up --- talking about the need for paper trails

[Khephra]

16. He's the new "Hilary"

Someone that the Right can mention that gets their base foaming at the mouth. It's a base-pleaser.

[phylny]

9. No matter what you think of him, Ted Kennedy kicks ass when

speaking publicly.

[Just Me]

11. Have you ever heard so much sniveling and whining?

Geez.

Not one Republican is DENYING that the irregularities and problems exist!!!

Instead they're :cry: about how inconvenient this is.

Apparently, they HATE the wheels of DEMOCRACY!!!

They are ANTI-DEMOCRACY and DON'T WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO ENJOY THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND POWER TO VOTE!!!

(On edit: got hurried, small correction *LOL*)

[Cobalt Violet]

14. Ha Ha

It's in the house and senate record for all time now.!!

[Radical Activist]

12. Contact Bob Ney 202.225.6265

Yay! He mentioned Dennis Kucinich!
Too bad he's a Republican who thinks this is all silly.

[AlCzervik]

13. Pelosi up.

[RedSock]

15. pelosi

says one person one vote is sacred in this country

uh ... no ...

not with the electoral college. it doesn't exist.

[frylock]

17. she seems a little nervous..

can't say that I blame her.

[DireStrike]

18. "Pinning our hopes on HAVA"?!?!

Urgh...

And someone get her a framing class. "This is not a conspiracy theory" = "don't think of an elephant."

EDIT: Though I'm not sure how else to say it...

[DireStrike]

19. Hillary Up in Senate

[Behind the Aegis]

20. Ukraine!

She brought up the Ukraine and spoke how we were proud that they stood up to vote! She is doing great!!!! AWESOME!

[DireStrike]

23. "Our moral authority will be weakened [if we don't stand up here]"

Whoo!

[demnan]

21. Hilliary bringing up Ukraine

and Iraq

[Radical Activist]

22. Help America Vote Act

is a useless piece of garbage. I ran a voter registration drive and in some ways it makes it more difficult to register to vote. It certainly didn't solve the problem of election fraud.

[Radical Activist]

24. Arrogant Republican Jerk Tom Reynolds 202-225-5265

He thinks we aren't in touch with reality.

[Radical Activist]

30. It took them a long time to pick up

They must be getting some calls.

[Khephra]

25. Kerry sure didn't help things by staying away today

Instead he just gave the Right more ammo to attack those who are standing up for voting rights. Republicans keep on bringing him up as having "moved on" and it's going to end up hurting the Left's cause in the long run.

[BurtWorm]

28. It's another instance of his wanting to have things both ways.

The Bushists called this tendency of his "flip-flopping" because they're too stupid and lazy to say what it really is, which is seeming to have no position on anything at all. What Kerry does is more passsive than flip-flopping. Vastly more subtle and sophisticated, too. But a lot of good it does him or, more to the point, Democrats and progressives.

[Kolesar]

26. Sherrod Brown contrasting his experience as OH SOS vs. Blackwell

Blackwell has failed (his two responsibilities). :thumbsup:

[Kolesar]

29. Marcy Kaptur D-Toledo gets it

"Blackwell repeatedly took action to discourage voting"
"tried force BOEs to buy ...machines known to be flawed"
"specifying paper weight"
"fighting availability of provisional ballots up to 3 pm on election day"
"hundreds of thousands of ohioans have questions about how the vote was handled in a state w/ a margin of ~100,000"

[Radical Activist]

27. I'm glad Kaptur is questioning HAVA

It should never be held up as an example of reform. It did very little and hurt in some cases. It was no reform at all.

[frylock]

31. big ups for marcy karptur..

reiterates the bullkrap regarding the weight of paper for the voter registration forms, and the lack of available provisional ballots.

[Kolesar]

32. JD Hayworth "serves to plant doubt in bush's election"

No shit, Hoss

[WarNoMore]

36. Yes.

Harkin talking about the software being secret.

[DireStrike]

37. What a fucking loudmouthed lout this guy is.

And he's missing the point - the seeds of doubt ALREADY EXIST.

[Skidmore]

38. JD is Rush's doppelganger,

I swear. Everytime I see that smarmy grandstander, I want to break my teevee.

[Radical Activist]

40. Does the fraud cast doubt or the Democrats?

[DireStrike]

43. He's saying the dems, the contest

[Radical Activist]

49. I know. He's full of crap. I'm calling his office to let him know

[progressiveBadger]

33. I hate "what would J.D." Hayworth

Just thought I would throw that out there.

[Just Me]

48. He's an arrogant advocate for authoritarianism, to hell with "the people".

He seriously deserves to be humbled!!!

[Radical Activist]

34. GOP Rep. "J.D." Hayworth

Who is this ass-clown? He looks like a former college football star with Rush Limbaugh's voice.
Contact his DC office at 202-225-2190

[gumby]

35. Is that J.D. Hayworth or Rush Limbaugh?

Both are bloviating Pigs.

Hey JD, we want the people to decide who is elected, NOT phony-baloney-plastic-banana-good-time-dope-smoking-hacked machines.

[Just Me]

39. EW!!! Fighting for "the people" is "planting the insidious seeds of doubt

says, Hayworth.

When "the people" have indicated FACTS which raise doubt, then THE GOVERNANCE HAS THE OBLIGATION to protect the rights of the American people!!!

Freakin' moron Hayworth!!!

BTW, Hayworth, there were tens of thousands of reports, not merely a few!!!

Buttwipe!!! :grr:

[WarNoMore]

51. Dennis is smoking!! eom

[Radical Activist]

41. Dennis! Dennis!

Yay!

[Jose Diablo]

Notice how no one is questions the outcome, "Bu*h won"

Me thinks they protest too much. Could it be they themselves worry that questions will be raised as to the legitimacy of their placement as representatives making decisions for us.

Personally, I don't think Bu*h won, he didn't win Ohio. Blackwell's fraud turned the election to Bu*h.

But at least some Dem's stood this time.

[frylock]

42. yes!! dk in the house!

:bounce:

[DireStrike]

44. SENATE - BARACK

[msanthrope]

45. Barack is UP!!!! n/t

[Radical Activist]

Dennis - Obama speaking at the same time?

Kucinich-Obama '08!!!
hehe I can dream can't I?

[DireStrike]

56. Oh, I know!

So torn! I missed Barack for DK, he was on fire!

[Behind the Aegis]

67. didn't miss much

I was NOT impressed with Obama! I was sad. I thought he would be more forceful! DK was MUCH better!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

80. its obama's second day at his job...cut him some slack

[Radical Activist]

94. How many Democrats didn't speak up at all?

I'm glad he at least did that. Very few people are as good as Kucinich!

[Khephra]

46. "There are never lost causes, because there's never fully gained

causes."

Who the FUCK was that? What an asshole.

YEAH, IT'S KUCINICH TIME!

:party:

[OrwellwasRight]

50. JD Hayworth; had his stomach stapled last year

Mine turns whenever he speaks.

:puke:

[frylock]

62. too bad they didn't staple his mouth shut

[Buns_of_Fire]

96. He can staple any part of himself he wants

But he'll always be "Gelatainous" Hayworth to me. :puke: (The guy's almost more repulsive than _boosh**, if that's possible.)

[OrwellwasRight]

47. Kucinich is my hero! :-) nt

[frylock]

55. w0w!!

that was awesome!

[Radical Activist]

58. Dennis always comes through

Great speech!

[Sugarbleus]

60. I love that man too!!

Always WELL DONE DK!

[Behind the Aegis]

61. got the last part

He was awesome! The woman who followed him, the D from Cali..Rep. Lee, was great too!!!

[buddhamama]

77. mine too

DK rocks.

[lovuian]

79. Dennis Rocks!!! and he is from Ohio!!!

:bounce:

[Skidmore]

52. Amen, DK. Nuff said.

[Kolesar]

53. Dennis! "It's not about red or blue, black or white, "

"It's about right or wrong"
Presents misallocation of voting machine.
SOS Blackwell failed to publish standards
Operated in a most partison fashion
Made it more difficult for low income people to vote. Deprived..constitutional amendment to vote."
"people have died for that right (to vote)"
Yes!

[Just Me]

54. HEY REPUBS!!! THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU,..IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE!

THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU, YOUR PARTY OR YOUR "RULER".

THIS IS ABOUT THOSE WHOM YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE,...THE AMERICAN PEOPLE,...WHICH YOU CLEARLY PLACE WAY BELOW YOUR OWN SELF-SERVING, PREDATORY, POWER-MONGERING AGENDA!!!

[Khephra]

57. Nadler is looking good

He's lost a lot of weight. Good for him!

Too bad he didn't get enough time, though.

[blueblitzkrieg]

59. Who's this Candice Miller biiiiiiiiiiaaaatch?

[Behind the Aegis]

63. HARPY

She is just sad!!! What a dolt!

[Radical Activist]

64. Miller did not just bash ACORN?!

What a jackass!!! ACORN did a lot of work to prevent fraud.

She's just pissed off because they were trying to register people of color to vote.

[Radical Activist]

66. Call Candice Miller 202-225-2106

Because she thinks we're turkeys and doesn't like groups that register black people to vote. ACORN did a great job and got over 1 million people of color registered to vote last year.

[Just Me]

69. Yet, another Republican characterizing a FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE,...

,...a FIGHT FOR "THE PEOPLE'S" RIGHT TO VOTE as a "conspiracy theory"!

WHY DO THE REPUBLICANS OBJECT TO "THE PEOPLE'S" RIGHT TO VOTE?
WHY DO THE REPUBLICANS DEMEAN OR DIMINISH THOSE WHO ARE TAKING A STAND FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
DO REPUBLICANS HATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?
DO REPUBLICANS HATE DEMOCRACY?
ARE REPUBLICANS AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTION?

[gumby]

65. I'm an American People

and I DO NOT accept that George Bush "won" in 2000 OR 2004.

NEVER, EVER!!!!!!!!!

[patrice]

68. Change one fact: substitute Kerry's name where Bush's appears.

How many of these people would be saying exactly the opposite of what they are saying right now.

Most? & Who wouldn't change?

or -

None?

[Jose Diablo]

70. In Senate, once more, "Bu*h won"

But nothing brought-up how Blackwell didn't randomly select which precints to recount, he selected the precincts so as to not find irregularities.

[Just Me]

71. Cummings: failure to protect the right to vote destroys democracy!

That was succinct!!!
:bounce:

[blueblitzkrieg]

72. Cynthia McKinney up!

[buddhamama]

73. woo hoo!

this oughta be good.

[Just Me]

74. "Dreier the Defier of Democracy"

Yet, another enemy against "the people" and "democracy"!!!

Mr. Pro-Power for Politicians,...and anti-power for "the people"!!

[blueblitzkrieg]

75. Watching these nasty Repugs brush all this off...

makes me hate these bastards all the more. :mad:

[Just Me]

78. Although people were denied the right to vote,...election legitimate.

How is any election legitimate if every American citizen isn't guaranteed that his/her right vote is counted?

Can any election be legitimate is "the people" are not empowered with their constitutional right to vote and have their vote counted?

[Skidmore]

76. Problem is that the Pubs keep treating this

like a football game. It's all about the score--* got more votes. I can't decide whether they are doing this on purpose to distract or they just don't get it.

[Radical Activist]

81. Thanks Jesse Jackson Jr! Ex-felon voting is a serious issue

It is very clearly targeted at disenfranchising African-American voters who are far more likely to be arrested and convicted of a felony. There's a reason most of the states who don't allow ex-felons to vote are in the South. It is another form of Jim Crow.

[DireStrike]

83. Also mentioned lack of affirm. right to vote in constitution.

"Voting system build on the sand of state's rights, not individual rights."

[Just Me]

82. Whoah,...Jackson, Jr. is VERY impressive!!!

Very impressive!!!!

[Radical Activist]

84. John Lewis: this man should have been on the national ticket

We would have won by a landslide.

[blueblitzkrieg]

85. He just rocked the house!!!!!!!!

Go John Lewis!!!!

[DireStrike]

86. Bobby Jindal trying to make it personal, another self absorbed R.

Me, Me, Me, My family, my father, us, me, Bush, me me me.

For once, it's not about you!

[Kolesar]

88. lecturing people on his first day in the chamber

"not a good day for democracy" gimme a break

[Jose Diablo]

87. Again we hear, "Bu*h won" in the house

Anybody else wondering why this comes-up so much? Maybe somebody may think, hey Bu*h didn't win, nor did many repub reps.

[Kolesar]

90. Hey, look on Rep Woolsey's website

Bring the soldiers home. http://woolsey.house.gov/newsarticle.asp?RecordID=387

[blueblitzkrieg]

89. Go Lynn Woolsey

spending billions in Iraq to bring democracy but we can't even get it straight here! preach it

[WarNoMore]

91. Does it seem as if all

the speakers are getting the full 5 minutes?

[imax2268]

92. how does

slashing tires effect a voting machine...?

[Kolesar]

93. One rep asks for 5, then they parse it into 1 minute speeches

I don't know much more than that about the procedure.

[WarNoMore]

97. I guess you're ri.ght.

I missed Cummings the first time.

[frylock]

95. michael moore! michael moore! michael moore! michael moore!

everyone drink up!

[imax2268]

99. excuses...

excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...
excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...
excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...
excuses...excuses...excuses...excuses...

[Just Me]

A VERY sick obsession. Totally dysfunctional focus.

Somebody, get these folks off the "kool-aid" and on some more helpful prescriptions for their neurotic obsession with Michael Moore!!!

[blueblitzkrieg]

98. Oh dear who is this loser Repug yakking about Michael Moore?

saying Barbara Boxer was inspired by Michael Moore...wtf? she's in the "michael moore wing"

[Lenape85]

103. Can you give me a name

[blueblitzkrieg]

108. I didn't catch his name, he didn't look familiar..sorry nt

[frylock]

107. he really effed up the over/under on references to michael moore..

I swear he said his name no less than ten times.

[Radical Activist]

109. He's from Florida too so he knows about fair elections. Call him at

Call this asshat Ric Keller at [phone]

You might tell him how to spell his first name correctly.

[ferme ta bush]

100. Their Michael Moore Obsession!

get over it!

[ferme ta bush]

101. Go Sistah! Maxine!

[Kolesar]

111. dedicates to Michael Moore and (fahrenheit 9-11)

Just mocked that gop puke rep from florida who kept mentioning Michael Moore.

Ohio has failed to run a fair election.

[Jose Diablo]

102. LOL, in the house..MM and conspiracy

these repubs are saying dem are ct and repubs are 'normal'.

[blueblitzkrieg]

104. Maxine Waters THANKS Michael Moore!!!

You go girl!!!

"Kenneth Blackwell, an African American male, I'm ashamed to say"! whoah, go maxine!!!

[imax2268]

106. right on...!

[Radical Activist]

113. That was so freaking cool

after the guy who bashed Moore. Hilarious!

[WarNoMore]

105. Maxine Walters is unbelievable.

She just dedicated her protest to Michael Moore. Whoo hoo! I love it.

[ferme ta bush]

112. The Ovaries Have it!

I've never seem more "balls" coming out of women since last years W. Hollywood Halloween party. I love our female reps!

[blueblitzkrieg]

114. I love her!!!

now she is inspiring

[gumby]

110. GO MAXINE

A Great American.

[imax2268]

116. better equipment

to run the state lotteries then to count votes...


YEA...!!!

[maveric]

115. Post here. This one is too long.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2912768