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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:04 AM
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OK when they try to outlaw abortion do you think we will see
huge protest or do you think that most Americans will just roll over again?
i know that I will be out there in the streets protesting... but one person wont do much... so your thoughts?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:09 AM
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1. You don't think protests will stop this regime, do you?
It took an entire world united to stop hitler. It will take easily 5 times that to stop this regime. And don't look for it to happen in the voting booth either. Remember, the bush regime owns the voting process now.

It will take a world united sometime in the next 10 - 15 years to stop this regime. Many will die, much will be destroyed. It won't be good times for most.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:14 AM
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6. You have summed it up more precisely than any post
I've seen. The situation is as simple as that. All of this whining about whatever the Dems did right or wrong, who we could get elected in 2006 is all irrelevant. As you have said, the situation has gotten to the point that it is beyond the wishes or capabilities of the American people to rectify the current problem. It's now and will continue to be a world problem.

I will point out that there is well enough military fire power in the hands of other governments to stop the madness but, at a cost in lives, money and environment that is almost unspeakable. Surely there is some better way than that.

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Kitka Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:09 AM
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2. There would be protests. However, they already are outlawing
abortion, it's not something that hasn't already happened. And people have been protesting.

I don't think, though, that anyone will actually go for a complete abortion ban. If republicans delivered on that promise, they'd lose a lot of moderates that only vote for them to get that done. They'll just keep telling them that they'll do it, but never go through with it, IMO.

Course, I could be wrong, so I still donate to NOW.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:13 AM
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5. Yeah............
if they did they'd lose the support of the fundies. Thy would have lost the carrot on the stick they always wave in front of them. Couldn't gave that.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:28 AM
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9. I don't think a complete ban will happen either.
The corporatist bosses in the rethug party use this issue to divide and conquer. But if they actually banned the procedure and all the moderates I know who are pro-choice but voted fro the chimp anyway are forced to watch doctors and young women being hauled off to jail, they wouldn't vote rethug anymore. So it is only useful as a campaign promise to whip up the fundy base.

They have been chipping away at our rights for years. If they do completely outlaw, there will be massive civil disobedience.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:09 AM
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3. Over one million women showed up for the march last April.
Maybe something will happen, but it will be ignored by the press and the pukes in the white house.

Most Americans? They will probably roll over.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:13 AM
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4. I will not roll over and lots of people who will not!! and yes, these
"right', have been knicked at more many hears, but they are being targeted anew now with the 'mandate'.
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Feathered Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:18 AM
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7. An all out ban?
Well, there will be protests, and celebrations. Perhaps an armed clash between the two - I think the threat of civil war would be on the agenda. People on both sides of the issue take it VERY seriously - and I know I'd fight for my right to choose.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:22 AM
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8. They will not outlaw abortion, as they have promised. They need it
...to keep their evangelical base riled up and voting. They'll just continue blaming it on the "activists judges" (don't ask) and the "liberal elite" (how quaint) and, for their naive, obedient evangelicals, that will be enough to keep them coming out to the polls, spitting with rage.

Upholding its legality also has the added benefit of keeping their suburban "security moms" in the fold.

The intellectual disconnect required to maintain these contradictory cultural positions would be impossible in a country where an independent and critical media was allowed to flourish, but, alas, we live in the USA.
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:31 AM
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10. Yeah ive always said that too..
but dont you think that the end of these next 4 years that they wont try? i mean they can always hang on to the gay marriage thing.. or that women need to stay at home with thier kids... they can always replace it with some other crazy idea dont ya think?
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:33 AM
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13. I've never seen it like that.
Thanks for a new insight.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:34 AM
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11. The rich will fly to EU like they always have or----
have operations called something else and the poor? Well who knows. Go back to what women have been doing since history has been taken down I guess. This is not a new thing you know.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:20 AM
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12. I live in Detroit-we could start a boat service to Canada
Abortion is legal there, and there are plenty of good doctors in Windsor. We'll just tell everyone they're going for Lasik eye surgery, which people currently go to Windsor for.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:38 AM
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14. Whyt do people go to Windsor for lasik?
Can't you get lasik in Detroit or is it cheaper in Canada? Just curious...
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:31 AM
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15. there are a lot of right to lifers out there
and no they aren't going away.

I hope it doesn't return to the year 1970 ... :(
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:50 AM
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16. Women will start doing Menstrual Extractions
http://www.io.com/~wwwomen/menstruation/extraction.html

http://www.sisterzeus.com/MenExt.htm

and reading lists like

http://www.sisterzeus.com/List.htm

But seriously, the Republicans can't outlaw abortion. If they outlaw abortion, add an anti-gay marriage amendment to the Constitution, and balance the budget, they'll use up every single excuse people have for voting for them.
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