John Stewart sold us out!

[Telly Savalas]

Last night he was more than happy to riff on the Gonzales hearing, but said nothing about the contested electors of Ohio. Of course, Howard Zinn sold us out with his silence too.

While I'm at it, let's make a list of all the sell outs:

*George Soros: the guy is rich enough to buy the entire state of Ohio, but chose not to do so. Sell out.

*Noam Chomsky: still don't see a book about the events in Ohio yet. Obviously a right-wing stooge.

*Jimmy Carter: too busy building houses for poor people to fight for us in Ohio.

*Dennis Kucinich: speaking of fighting, if this guy really wants to fight for us, he would have brought a baseball bat to Congress yesterday and smashed Dennis Hastert's knees. He didn't, so I guess he's too much of a pussy to stand up for us.

*The folks at Medecins Sans Frontiers and Red Cross: too obsessed with tsunami relief to tackle the most important issue facing us, voter fraud in Ohio.

*Hell, everybody else except me: none of you are pure enough.

Because every single member of the Democratic Party except for me is a sell-out, I have no choice but to leave the party. Furthermore I have no choice but to announce my intentions to leave the party 10 times a day here.

[vi5]

1. I'm glad you did this post and will get flamed and not me...

But for the record, I enjoyed this post and you did a better job than I would have on it.

[RebelOne]

2. Bye n/t

[AlbizuX]

3. i don't think they are sellouts

Chomsky and Zinn have bigger issues to deal with...yes, i'm sure they know about fraud, they've studied it in countless other nations...but, once you are at that level of awareness about history and politics, these things don't shock you.

They are most definitely not right-wingers...they just can't be a member of every damn left cause out there.

[txaslftist]

18. I'm fairly confident the post was ironical.

[tavalon]

136. I worked 12 hours last night

and even I caught the joke.

It's cute and really catches the tone of some of our strident DUers.

Good job, Telly

[bobbobbins]

4. i think the humor is lost on some people

not me, i dug it

[bigendian]

7. too funny for words n/t

:kick:

[henslee]

25. Sarcasm does not travel well on the net --really depends what mood you're

in when reading it.

[cali]

5. LOL!

Actually, though you made me burst into laughter, you've nailed a certain mentality so accurately, I'm not sure it wouldn't have been more appropriate to burst into tears.

[emulatorloo]

6. Maybe he will cover it on the next show? That happens sometimes. . .

EOM

[wicket]

12. yup- that's what they usually do

Since they tape early in the day they usually will cover anything they missed in the next night's episode.

[mstrsplinter326]

8. THE DAILY SHOW IS FILMED AT NOON.

Ugh.

Anyway, it's a lot easier to make jokes about torture hearings that then ruin of democracy.

Moreover, advocating that these leaders owe you something is insane. What the hell are you talking about with a baseball bat? And Noam owing you a book? Or Jimmy Carter owing the populous something other than a roof over our heads?

I know I am playing right into your game here, but you're delirious. Those people don't owe you anything. Want to go after Hassert? Do it yourself. Want a book written? Do it.

[theboss]

17. Not so quick to pick up sarcasm, are you?

Just sayin'.

[Lucille]

28. The "show " part is daily...the interviews are taped in advance.

I went to a taping about a year ago around 3:00 pm. The show was that night. However, the interview that I saw (a pop singer whose name escapes me) was not used for that night's show. They run them a couple days behind, sometimes more, sometimes less. That's why Stewart and his guests often joke about the movie that "just opened," when it hasn't actually opened.

[leftynyc]

9. First thing to make me smile this morning.

Bravo(a) on the sarcasm.

[tuvor]

10. Jon Stewart makes me laugh.

And that's all he's supposed to do. Don't go all "Tucker" on him.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

11. LOL, gee, you don't sound like... HALF OF DU YESTERDAY!?!?

[Guaranteed]

Would you ever go on Fox News and speak the virtues of Alberto

Gonzales and his torture policy?

Why not?

Because you'd be a goddamned whore sell-out, that's why. And, not only that, you'd be dead wrong and a disgusting human being.

[crispini]

13. ROTFLMAO!

thank you, I needed that.

some of the responses in the thread are Even. Funnier. OMG, doesn't anyone get SARCASM anymore?

[nolabels]

97. The only problem I see with it is many really feel this way

Most of my SARCASM comes from how I feel at the time. Tomorrow I will probably laugh at how stupid it was, but for now I take everything with a grain of salt. You cannot get others to be serious about things until there is real hardship it looks like to me.

The one I try to remember lately is " There can be no revolution when the peoples belly is full". Of course most farm animals are kept fat and sassy till slaughter, but their not smart :scared:

[crispini]

107. There is very little that is worth being serious about.

I'll be laughing at Death when he comes for me.

[indigobusiness]

14. I agree.

Too much bitching and whining going on around here, not enough searching for understanding and solutions.

Kudos.

[Guaranteed]

19. Yes. Let's work with the fascists. nt

[indigobusiness]

39. You work with the fascists, if you like.

I would never suggest that.

[Guaranteed]

52. Would you defend those who do? nt

[tx_dem41]

56. Ummm....why does he have to?

:eyes:

[Guaranteed]

57. Well some apparently feel the need to- i.e. this thread?? nt

[tx_dem41]

62. Well, since the Original Post was sarcastic in nature....

I guess they picked the wrong thread.

[Guaranteed]

64. ........

The sarcasm of the original post is meant to ridicule those who criticize members of our party when they work with the fascists. Thus, the original post is defending those who work with the fascists.

[tx_dem41]

69. I didn't get that to be the point of the sarcasm at all. n/t

[Individualist]

88. Well said, BGL n/t

[DireStrike]

100. The sarcasm is to ridicule the ridiculous.

Voting for the objection would have served to accomplish NOTHING.

Speaking out in support of it isn't "standing together" enough for you?

Voting for it would have damaged the case for election reform and allowed them to paint the dems as partisans and sore losers. But they don't need to do that now. We are painting them with a different brush, though one just as destructive.

[Laurab]

120. OH RIGHT!

I must have missed that, dammit. I'm grateful you pointed it out to me, silly me, I just thought it was funny!

[indigobusiness]

68. Now what do you think?

Be constructive in your frustration. Fight the good fight. Recognizing the bad guys is square one.

[Kolesar]

15. His show was already written by the time of the electors story.

They write TDS early in the day and tape it in the afternoon. JS could not have included the story.

[Earth_First]

16. See ya...

I bet you were one of these idealistic youngins too who threatened to leave the country if * was re-selected too, right? You haven't left yet...why?

[gollygee]

20. ROFL!

I can't believe how many people dont' get this.

Oh well, I think it's hilarious!

[cali]

27. Shocking isn't it?

Makes you wonder about the collective IQ of those who are totally missing the point that the OP's piece was HUMOR.

[Guaranteed]

31. I picked it up right away. But, you know what? It's not funny.

You know WHY???

Because he's trying to DEMEAN people here who have EXTREMELY legitimate concerns about the state of our party, and of our NATION.

Our party is in a SHITHOLE right now. Our party leaders lick DOG EXCREMENT off of Bush's shoes for NOURISHMENT. That is the state of our representation is at the moment.

And, you know what, if you're liking- in fact, if you're not absolutely SICK OF THE BULLSHIT coming from our leaders by this time- you should just go ahead and join the Republicans.

Go be a neo-con. Cuz this shit ain't funny, at ALL.

[comsymp]

35. Yeah, got the sarcasm and missed the humor, too

Guess it was targeted more towards people who consider themselves Democrats above all else, as opposed to those naive fools who value principles over party.

Hunh- funny thing is, you can easily find threads in which people deride Republicans for doing the same thing.

Even better, IMO, is the frequent repetition of the two most offensive phrases on DU - "get over it" and "move on".

Plenty of irony in this thread, all right.

[Guaranteed]

42. Dead on.

Some just like the D!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

49. It's not principles you're valuing.

it's lunacy that you're valuing. it's a complete lack of pragmatism and political savvy that you're valuing. Sorry if we don't want to be part of that game. We actually want to win some day.

[Guaranteed]

You know what wins elections? LEADERSHIP.

Maybe if the Democrats tried on that "old hat" they might win a couple.

Cuz, you know, we've tried the spineless thing for a decade now- and look where it got us, savvy guy.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

55. I'm all for that myself.

To the point where I want Howard Dean to be our party's chair. I think he's going to stand up for us and make sure everyone's fighting and not backing down.

But blind fighting, which is what many here expect, isn't going to get us anywhere. You have to face the fact that we do not own the media, and thus, cannot take the same shrewd actions that the Republicans do for, whether it's right or wrong, we will take a hit for it.

I'm all about being bold with a strong liberal message. I'm not about suicide missions.

[Guaranteed]

67. Totally agreed on that.

But at this point I'm wanting them to stand up for anything, just for the exercise, so to speak.

[Beware the Beast Man]

61. I'll gladly throw some coin into your campaign, Mr. Loony.

Step up and campaign!

[Guaranteed]

66. Absolutely. Where do I sign up?

:)

I'm 25- I could be in the House of Reps, right?

[Beware the Beast Man]

70. I think so.

Or you could start out on the state or local level.
Look, I understand the importance of leadership in the Democratic party. I really think the OP is just taking the piss out of posters who praise a politician one day, damn him the next, rinse, repeat ad nauseum over a long period of time. There's a lot of that here as of late. I wouldn't say he is insulting our cause, just making parody of the fickle-minded here on DU.
And you have to admit, the image of Kucinich breaking Hastert's kness with a baseball bat is hilarious. :)

[comsymp]

75. Gee, thanks Kreskin

for that impressive feat of mindreading.

Unfortunately, you're way off base. What I, personally, value are the Progressive (dare I even say Liberal?) principles once advanced by the Democratic Party. As for my lack of political savvy, again your deep insight into my life is amazing- and amazingly wrong.

Your reference to the "game" is telling, though- and that's where we seem to differ. Spending most of my life in ACC country, I know what team spirit is and when it's appropriate... and inappropriate. I don't view this as Our Team vs Their Team. In fact, for the most part, I don't consider Government to be a game. The decisions being made in DC (and in state capitols) affect my life and the lives of people I care about- I don't give a happy damn whose team wins if it doesn't benefit us.

I became a Democrat because of what the Democratic Party stood for, and as long as the Party continued to stand for those values, I was happy to continue to call myself a Dem. Unfortunately, my values are no longer reflected by the actions of the DP. Words, yeah, sometimes. BFD. If words actually meant anything, Gee Dumbass would be a compassionate conservate, a uniter and a peace president.

My BIL just left for another TOD in Iraq last week. What did the Dems do to prevent our invading a sovreign nation? How many Dems fought against PATRIOT? Against Ashcroft's/Olson's/Negroponte's confirmation? Against Theft 2000? And on and on and on.

So I'm hanging up my pom-poms and moving on to support those who are willing to work for the kind of government I can believe in.

As for pragmatism and savvy- you can call it that if you want. Appeasement and submission work just as well.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

81. Self-righteousness gets you nowhere.

What did the Dems do to prevent any of the things you list? When you wake up and realize that short of starting an armed rebellion the Dems haven't had ANY FUCKING POWER over the last 4 years to do prevent ANYTHING from happening. The only power we have is the filibuster, and we've used that, but it cannot be used for everything we happen to disagree with. Those things were happening with us or without us whether you like it or not.

Get used to that idea, because unless you learn pragmatism, you're going to be living it for a long, long time.

[comsymp]

86. Pragmatism doesn't mean sticking your head in the sand...

... or anywhere else.

First, please clarify and show an example of "self-righteousness", as one of us obviously has no clue what it means. I'm discussing a parting of the ways based on philosophical differences; you're accusing me/others of moralistic narrow-mindedness. If anything, patronization and challenging someone's intelligence, realism and common sense for disagreeing with you would fit the definition better.

And as for pragmatism, my understanding is essentially, making the best of what you've got - not claiming that you don't have control and are therefore required to go along with your opponents and hope that one day you'll be back on top.

Second, I'm wide awake- and would argue that it's those who cover their eyes and ears, chanting "la la lalala" whenever they're confronted with criticism of Their Team, who need to wake the fuck up. That type of attitude is beyond Freeperish.

Third, I'm laughing at your bogus assertion that being the minority party = impotence. History proves otherwise. Of course, in those instances (think Newt or Helms, f'rinstance), having a little courage helped. Additionally, filibuster is not the only tool the minority party has in Congress.

Last, we've already been living it for a long, long time. And under pragmatic Dems, even! So how, exactly, do you figure that More Of The Same = Improvement?

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

87. Again, there's a huge difference with being bold in ideas

and taking suicidal actions. That's what you're not willing to understand.

[comsymp]

90. What YOU aren't willing to understand is that I'm talking about neither-

Unless you honestly believe that voting your conscience is a bold idea or suicidal?

If, *IF* Senate Dems genuinely believe that the Ohio vote was clean, so be it. I disagree, but respect their views. If they believe that there were valid grounds to challenge its legitimacy, it's neither bold nor suicidal to vote to challenge. The results would not have been changed but 45 Senators would have made one hell of a more significant point than 1 (whose position was totally repudiated, btw, by the votes of the rest of her party)

Would it have been bold in ideas or suicidal to have said or PATRIOT "hey, we just got this bill in last night- how 'bout we take a couple days to read it before voting on it?"

Rejecting some of Bush's more loony nominees - bold or suicidal?

The more appropriate word, IMO, is principled.

[Dhalgren]

115. Thank you for all of these posts.

I was trying to find a way to jump in, but when I read your posts I realized I didn't have to. You are absolutely right. It is this attitude that "it doesn't matter what the Repubs do as long as we can blame them for it' that really gets to me. It does matter what our government does regardless of who is in power. And if the Democratic Party is only interested in what will "affect the outcome of the election" and not on what is right and what is wrong then I'm out and no sarcasm in the statement. And I know that there will be folks who say "good riddance" and "bu-bye" and such, but I no longer care what that type of "citizen" thinks. It isn't only the Dems in congress who need to make principled stands, it is all of us, too.

[comsymp]

123. Agreed emphatically

(and you should have jumped in - your post above is more articulate and to the point than all my accumulated blather)

I have a serious problem with that attitude, too, among certain others - specifically that Our Team Is #1 garbage... and the patronizing, smug tone from the "pragmatic" "realistic" types here who feel the need to point out the naivete of anyone who espouses principles over party label. Personally, I expect our elected officials to do their frigging jobs- R, D, or I- and if they don't, they don't need to be there.

As for the point a few folks have made about the Drama Queens who loooooove Olbermann/Stewart/Moore/whomever one day then hate 'em the next- yeah, I mock them too. But a lotta what I'm reading seems to be coming from people who have simply grown tired of saying "OK, one more chance." There IS a difference.

[txaslftist]

108. Seriously, dude...

Sorry about your Iraq problem. That truly sucks.

[comsymp]

125. TY- Sucks worse for tens/hundreds of thousands of other folks.

And that suckage is part of what has me pissed off at "our" Dems. (I probably shouldn't have even mentioned my BIL- it's been eating at me today. psst- know what his assignment is? gunner on an ammo delivery truck)

Anyway, back to our Dems.
(doing rummy voice)

Could they have stopped it? Probably not.

Could they have challenged the idea of giving virtually unlimited War Powers to a tinhorn would-be dictator and his PNAC masters? You betcha.

Same w/PATRIOT and a hundred other things for which they just rolled over. Rolling over for Gee Dumbass & Co. is NOT what we send 'em to DC for.

[Earth_First]

72. This parody/thread = us v. us

Democrats v. Democrats

[comsymp]

76. Agreed, to a point

I kinda see it as Democrat vs Progressive/Liberal/Populist.

[txaslftist]

109. Whoooah there, pardner!

I'm a liberal progressive populist AND a democrat. I thought the post was funny and ironical. Don't try to put all us kitties in the same toe-sack.

[comsymp]

127. Actually, so am I - for the moment

Guess the point I was trying to make is that political affiliation doesn't necessarily go hand-in-hand with social positions (eg- all Dems, here or IRL, are *not* ultra-leftwing Libs, nor are all U-LWL's Dems.)

And I didn't find the OP funny at all- but then, I never liked Seinfeld either, so make of it what you will...

[Boosterman]

132. Sorry just saw some irony here

quoted "I'm a liberal progressive populist AND a democrat. I thought the post was funny and ironical. Don't try to put all us kitties in the same toe-sack."

This is kinda the problem with the party IMO. Too many interests and too many narrow focus people. There really is no way to generalize the democratic party. i am not saying that any of those interests are wrong...but theres too many voices shouting imo.

[cali]

38. You mean it's not funny to you.

It's very funny as far as I'm concerned. And I'm sick of you who are frothing at the mouth and saying vile things about good people. Your hysterical lynch mob mentality is nothing but detrimental to the cause of liberalism and the democratic party. Try pulling yourself together.

[Guaranteed]

40. You know what's detrimental to the cause of liberalism?

Chuck Schumer going on Fox News to talk about how great torture and Alberto Gonzalez are. THAT'S detrimental- big time.

[cali]

46. Then we agree on something. n/t

[T Town Jake]

135. I picked it up right away, too. And you know what?...

...IT'S HILARIOUS.

[ebayfool]

77. Yup, sense of humor impairment ... LOL !

[aeolian]

79. LOL

great .gif.

I should have had something like that yesterday.

[crispini]

122. Oh, I am SO stealing that. Thanks! nt

[Orangepeel]

80. I had to read down to Kucinich and the bat before I "got it"

the beginning sounded just like half the serious posts on the board yesterday

[gollygee]

91. Yeah but that's what made it so funny! :D

Glad you bothered to read to the end! :D

[JNelson6563]

21. hahaha Good one!

I'm with you. Everyone else is a sellout, I'm joining the Rethug party!

:toast:

[Bridget Burke]

22. Ah, yes: "I'm such a good Democrat I'm turning Green"....

As you swirl your cloak about you & stride to the door, waiting for someone to beg you to stay. If they don't beg quickly enough, you'll wait just a little bit more...

This is such a good replica of those threads that you've already fooled a couple of folks. Maybe they just haven't had their first cup of coffee.

[txaslftist]

23. PLEASE EVERYONE

Take a minute to read the post before you flame it.

It's ironical.

You are supposed to laugh.

He's not serious.

When you take him seriously, you look...well...you look about as smart as a FREEPER.

Funny, by the way.

[txindy]

30. Amen!

Because I just can't say "D!tto." Or even bring myself to type it properly. ;)

[annarbor]

63. I'll also say, "Amen"

I didn't see the show, but after reading the brief transcript I can indeed detect the sarcasm that Jon Stewart often displays in his shows. I watch his shows from time to time and for some strange reason, I just don't see him suddenly "jumping ship" and using those particular topics to do so.

Just my opinion...
Ann Arbor

[aeolian]

71. Don't hold your breath

sarcasm seems to be lost on the more brittle folks here. Why, the last time I tried to be sarcastic, I was accused of being a freeper troll and had my post moved to an irrelevant forum.

And I'm still being flamed over there.

[crispini]

24. Dear Mr. Savalas:

I am pleased to inform you that you have been nominated for an award. Please come visit us in the DUDQ thread, I think you'll like it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=252915

[FizzFuzz]

74. what do DUDQ and NGU stand for? Yeah, I'm dense--- n/t

[crispini]

78. NGU = never give up

DUDQ = DU Drama Queens, aka those whom the OP is satirizing. :evilgrin:

[FizzFuzz]

89. thanks--

tip o' the hat.

[MadHound]

26. Well, since this is obviously sarcasm, I have one question for you

How much of this two party/same corporate master insanity can you take before you realize that the Democratic party is as complacent in selling the public down the river as the 'Pugs? Hasn't it been make clear to you over the past twelve years that while the Democrats will mouth pious offerings to the ordinary person, when push comes to shove they will do the bidding of their corporate masters every single time? Do I really need to read out the entire litany of atrocities that the Dems rolled on?

One definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting a different result each time. We have been engaged in this form of collective insanity for a long time now, how much longer do we have to participate in it before you wake up and realize that we are being bipartisanly screwed?

[Guaranteed]

29. I can't believe people are even saying this shit.

Not you, the original poster.

Are they even paying attention? Do they CARE that we have a bunch of empty suits for leadership, and our country is being destroyed?

And they think they're being clever with this shit? Trying to demean the people who actually DO give a shit.

Reminds me of Trey Parker and Matt Stone. They should spend less time trying to be clever, and more time opening their eyes and looking at the bullshit that's going on around them.

[MadHound]

32. Oh I can believe it friend.

It is hard when one has invested so much time, effort, money and emotions into a group to change in a minute or a day. It is much like the Stockholm Sydrome, where one come to identify and empathize with one's torturers. Or like the person, child or adult, who still defends their abuser, even though they know that as soon as the cops leave they'll get the shit kicked out them, again.

I went through this stage about five years ago, and indeed fell once more for the ABB crap this last election. To me, it isn't a matter that we lost, it was how the campaign was conducted, and the fact that Kerry refuses to fight, not only for us, but for himself as well over the fraudulency in Ohio. So for me, enough is enough, no more Dems for me, I'm going Green. I've been fooled far too many times in my thirty plus years of political activity.

I think though that slowly but surely people are waking up and smelling the garbage. I think that the Democratic party is going to die a slow, agonizing death as more and more people see them for what they are, another corporate enabler. Right now the Dems have a choice, continue to do their corporate masters' bidding, and fade away, or stand up on their hind feet and fight for the ordinary person like they're supposed to, and thrive. The choice is up to them, but they are going to have to choose quickly, for a lot of people are running out of patience.

[ShaneGR]

138. Hehe, look at the two trouble-makers.....

Can't stand not helping the repugs eh?

[indigobusiness]

41. Man oh man

did you ever miss the point.

[Guaranteed]

43. What was the point? Shut up and be fascist? nt

[indigobusiness]

45. No, quite the opposite.

See? You did miss the point.

[txaslftist]

106. I thought that was the definition of HOPE...

Or maybe optimism. Or maybe prayer.

Give up on these things and call them insanity if you will.

Not I, not anymore.

[Guns Aximbo]

33. umm huh?

1. regarding stewart - losing cause. water under the bridge. would solve nothing...

2. soros - spent millions on kerry... and losing cause. water under the bridge. would solve nothing...

3. Noam Chomsky - you want him to snap his fingers and produce a book? HELLO? ANYBODY IN THERE? WAKE UP AND WRITE THE BOOK YOURSELF! maybe you'll have 10 people buy it.

4. Jimmy Carter - Great man. Oh yeah! losing cause. water under the bridge. would solve nothing...

5. Dennis Kucinich - may be burnt out from telling the truth. losing cause. water under the bridge. would solve nothing...

6. Red Cross - run by the repugnant fascist who run our Country. Are you kidding?

7. you - bye. Where are you going?

[imenja]

34. wait for tonight

you'll notice there is a time lag on that show. I wouldn't be surprised if he covers it tonight.
Remember, however: It is a comedy show. He's not the one you should be made at. Remember, it's not really the news!

[tx_dem41]

36. Self-delete.

Slow on the uptake this morning.

[SOS]

37. Point taken

but Soros, Chomsky, Zinn, the Red Cross, Medicins Sans Frontiers and Jimmy Carter
are not our elected representatives.
The good people at Medicins sans Frontiers are a French aid group. What do they have to do with a vote in the US Congress?

[Guaranteed]

44. I haven't seen them going out of their way to AGREE with the

fascists, either.

[KittyWampus]

47. Harrumph!

:D

[welshTerrier2]

48. disrespectful bullshit ...

have your little satire ... the point you're raising is total bullshit ...

you used the phrase: "none of you is pure enough" ... why can't you respect the fact that many of us have very deep beliefs that the party fails to represent ??? why do you falsely suggest that there is a "purity" test ?? many DU'ers showed great pragmatism in supporting ABB after Kerry's IWR vote ... was that a "purity" test ???

and what's worse, you had to use blatant lies to make your point ... I watched Howard Zinn on TDS last night ... he was incredible ... this is the example you use to make your little satire ??? Zinn talked about 100,000 DEAD IRAQIS !! have you heard the Democratic Party raise this point ?? Zinn, making a comparison of Colombus to bush, stated that Colombus "went with his troops" ... have you heard the Democratic Party arguing that bush is a coward ?? Zinn talked about how the real mission in Iraq has nothing to do with promoting democracy; it has to do with procuring oil ... is that what you hear from the Democratic Party ??

the real sell out is the Democratic Party on the real and important issues ... your suggestion that DU'ers require purity is nonsense ... the truth is that the Democratic Party refuses to represent the views that many of us hold ...

and one last point, you used the phrase: "Because every single member of the Democratic Party except for me is a sell-out" ... first of all, 55% of DU'ers (of those who voted) said they planned to leave the party (based on yesterday's poll) ... why do you use the phrase "except for me" when so many feel this way ?? ... and why do you use the phrase "every single member" when most of those who are alienated by the party's actions regularly applaud those Democrats who stand up for what is right ???

the point you tried to make becomes very easy when you make up fake examples and distort the truth ...

[Dhalgren]

116. Great response. I agree completely.

It is hard to find humor in the betrayal of core values. It is hard to chuckle along with 100,000 innocent civilians slaughtered. It is difficult to snicker when the US is being destroyed as surely as is Iraq. But, hey, at least he isn't "pure"...

[Beware the Beast Man]

50. I think the irony is lost here.

But I thought it was hilarious! :hi:

[NuttyFluffers]

51. aha ha ha. that's mighty sarcasm there.

sure, real criticism of people is just elitist games, uh-huh, sure. guess we should toe the party line and not critically think. k, gotcha. yup, sure convinced me, gonna fall in line like an obedient child now. :eyes:

but wait, i am purer than thou. thus you have no power over me. for all my thoughts are elitist fantasy... :eyes:

[Beware the Beast Man]

53. That's not the point at all

If you can't laugh at yourself (and by that I mean the collective DU), what can you do? You have to admit that there a great number of fickle-minded Chicken Littles around here on occasion. It's not about "party obedience." Laughter is the best medicine.

[PA Democrat]

54. Edited- I just read the last line.

[Bridget Burke]

58. Obviously, it's too early in the morning for a Reading Comprehension test.

Hope you're grading on the curve...

[demwing]

59. I met Telly Savalas Once. He had a sense of humor.

I was in my punk stage. Shaved head, big mohawk.

I asked him to autograph my head with a marker. He bust out laughing, grabbed me in a head lock, and scrawled TELLY on my noggin.

It was one of those days that you remember because it was too weird to be forgotten.

BTW, very funny post. You had me angry at first, I think I got it when you dissed Carter. Excellent job :)

[UTUSN]

60. Thank You for Profiling the Purists. Nobody Can Be So Withering as They

when they target one of their own, which is MOSTLY what they do (as opposed to building solidarity).

[ElectroPrincess]

65. Yeah, but don't forget self-righteous indignation cuts both ways :-)

[UTUSN]

84. Let's Just Say I Feel the Cuts n/t

[raggedcompany]

73. If this was meant to be funny, keep trying.

If it was meant to be taken seriously, LOL

[Must_B_Free]

82. First Bev Harris, now John Stewart?

What's the world coming to?

[LeftCoast]

83. Great post Telly!

Here's a lolipop for you! :)

[electric-eye]

85. LOL

[Misunderestimator]

92. Yup... that about sums it up...

:thumbsup:

[wabeewoman]

93. Funny!

The lesson I read here (and elsewhere on DU) is we need not to become so intolerant we become THEM!
Just wanted to add that I understand the feelings-for me its from seeing clearly that our country is being destroyed piece by piece and having no power to stop it. And sharing the country with so many people who think everything is just fine!!!

[jdots]

94. Yada yada Fritz und dats da troof !

everybody LAMBADA !

[rocktop15]

95. Let's have our cake and eat it too!!!

ssia

[rbnyc]

96. please don't use the word pussy that way

The pussy is a wonderful thing and I know I'm not the only one who gets upset to see it used to indicate weakness. It demeans your whole post, no matter how you mean it.

Thanks.

EDIT: I know this post is a joke, but instead of finding it funny, I got pissed. I just can't stand to see the word pussy used that way. Sorry.

[nolabels]

99. Is Wimpy okay?

http://www.math.pitt.edu/~bard/bardware/popeye/popeye.html

[rbnyc]

111. lol

totally cool

;-)

[Solly Mack]

101. Thank you! If people had even half the strength of a pussy

they could move mountains by hand.

It's a sexist stereotype to equate weakness with pussy. Based entirely on the ignorant notion that being a woman makes you weak, coupled with the slang term for a vagina.

[jswordy]

98. So it's all about you, huh? LOL n/t

[sleipnir]

102. How is the weather up there on your High Horse?

Damn it must be nice! That post made me laugh for a good minute. Nice work.

And ride your High Horse of Hilarity all the way into the sunset.

[Artemis Bunyon]

103. WOOSH.

That was the sound of his post going right over your head.

[sleipnir]

126. KAMPMP.

That's the sound of my post trying to make it off the ground as a mockery of the earlier posts deriding the OP.

[Swamp Rat]

104. HA! Why don't you STAY and write something sarcastic about these guys:

[RaleighNCDUer]

105. That is one SCARY picture! n/t

[Catchawave]

110. Good post !

I feel your frustration.

I'm sure Stewart will cover the vote challenge Monday night, those repug diatribes deserve a Daily Show treatment...especially that wingnut who referred to the "Michael Moore Wing of the Democratic Party"....like that was a bad thing...lol.

We can't leave the Dems! My favorite quote:

That which doth not kill us, makes us stronger :)

[txaslftist]

112. DUDE, YOU CRACKED ME UP...

ONCE THIS MORNING WHEN I READ THE POST, THEN LATER WHEN I READ THE RESPONSES.

You seem to have stepped on some toes, which is all to the good, I think. Sometimes it's good to remember that we are the Democratic Underground, not the Weather Underground or the Nader Underground or the All Things Liberal Underground.

'The I'm leaving the party' and the 'I'm going green' posts always get me. Go post on the Green Underground, then.

If you want to be dramatic, that's fine, just tell us you are being dramatic. Meanwhile, we have a country to take back, and lots of work to do. Our Democratic leaders have not been pure (friggin' DLC!), but believe me, they are (mostly) people of good heart who mean well for us. They have one other point in their favor, they are actually in positions of some power and responsibility, while we aren't.

Sometimes they need to be told what to do. DU is there for that reason. Sometimes they need our condolences, congratulations, thanks (THANK YOU MS. BOXER!), and cajoling. That is what we are here for.

This is not a 'the world is ending find a hole to cry in forum', or 'The Democratic Party is a Sell Out Party' forum. This is a 'we aren't giving up, we have a battle to win.' forum.

So lighten up. We aren't giving up, we have a battle to win. It will be long and hard, and will require strength of purpose, enduring patience and, yes, sometimes humor.

So laugh and fight, sing and slay. Democratic Brothers Arise and Fight!

[TO Kid]

113. Obviously the Chemtrails got 'em

That's the only possible explanation. They've been adding psychoactive drugs to the chemtrail mix and spraying it over their homes, then beamed in subliminal "ditch Kerry" messages.

Naturally, the whole effort was financed by the Rockefellers. :tinfoilhat:

[WilliamPitt]

114. I just peed on myself a little bit

:)

[Laurab]

121. Oh that was too much, Will

you almost made me do it, too!

[bloom]

117. Of course it's not like we're paying him to be the Dem spokesperson...

or something.

Then we could tell him what to cover every day.



And yes - I get the sarcasm. And no - I don't think that JS is as far to the left as I am.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

118. Don't forget the biggest sellers-out: 'conspiracy theorists.'

These nutjobs who think that bad people HIDE things have really lowered the integrity of the party. They made Fox News and the NYT mad and that is unforgivable.

Tom Delay had it right-"the X-Files wing of the Democratic party" that thinks there's something HIDDEN in the voting software and don't trust the good citizens at DARPA are not real Americans.

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

[Laurab]

119. LOL

I can think of so many more but I'm laughing too hard!

[Old Mouse]

124. LOL

had to get to the end of your post to get it.

[GRLMGC]

128. Good one!

That was funny and right on.

[Sugarbleus]

129. *chuckle*

Well said.. what the hell's wrong with all those Mofos!?

[Buck_Fush]

130. okay, bye, don't forget to write when you get work, n/t

[bling bling]

131. It's funny to make fun of people who are frustrated.

Thanks for the funny post trying to make other DU's look silly. That was JUST what the doctor ordered. I think it would be really super funny if there were more threads mocking people who feel alienated from the party they voluntarily campaign for and donate time and money to.

Weeeeeeeeee. It just gets better and better.

[LTRS]

133. Very funny, but doesn't change the fact that....

The democratic party is filled to the brim with wussy legislators who have no balls whatsoever. That's why we have had several rounds of irresponsible tax cuts that have left record deficits, NCLB, the patriot act, a homeland security bill that allows for union busting, and a Medicare prescription drug bill that sends 350 billion dollars to big pharma and HMOs.

[T Town Jake]

134. Hilarious satire - and oh sooo true...

... :thumbsup: :yourock: :toast:

[seabeyond]

137. he has never been "on our side"

that is the nifty with stewart free thinker. he gets pissed at the dems (not nearly as much) as well as the repugs. he is not our boy.

[Name removed]

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