Frightening words from alberto gonzales (-snip- from transcript - NYT)

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Frightening....that this guy will become the United States Attorney General....read this, and BE OUTRAGED !!!! It is SAD that 'torturing people' even needs to be discussed in such a hearing, but that this guy doesn't know the answer is STUNNING, frightening, anti-American.....


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transcript from the gonzales hearings, New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/politics/06TEXT-GONZALES.html

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SEN. DURBIN: Thank you.

My gifted legal staff listened closely to your answers to my questions and believe you gave a very carefully worded lawyer answer to a question which I missed. And so for the record, I want to make certain that I understand your position again on this torture issue.

Can U.S. personnel legally engage in torture under any circumstances?

MR. GONZALES: I’m sorry. Can U.S. military personnel -- ?

SEN. DURBIN: U.S personnel. Of course that would include military as well as intelligence personnel or others who are under the auspices of our government.

MR. GONZALES: Senator, there are obligations under the treaty against the torture, and there are obligations under the anti-torture statute. There are obligations -- legal obligations in the UCMJ. And so I suppose without -- I don’t believe so, but I’d want to get back to you on that and make sure I don’t provide a misleading answer. But I think the answer to that is no, that there are a number of laws that would prohibit that.

[two gun sid]

1. This was not even the worst of what he said yesterday

I watched the hearings yesterday. Gonzales was slippery as an eel. He would not at any time say that torture was wrong. What I took away from the hearings was: The administration has the right to torture anyone for any reason as long as the president believes it could protect the US. Because 9-11 changed everything. Disgusting.

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2. true...IMO, this small -snip- epitomizes the whole thing...for those

who didn't read or see the hearings....


It's horrifying that this guy doesn't KNOW that "Torture is NOT an American Value"....

to me...it's the nazification continued....hitler and his minions never saw anything wrong with torture either....

Will American's rise up and refuse to accept gonzales and these 'bush-values' on torture?????

[Tace]

3. His Apparent Willingness To Use The Letter Of The Law To Subvert The

spirit of the law is truly chilling.

[MadHound]

4. No friend, what is really chilling is that a majority of our Congressmen

Both Republican and Democrat will actually vote to confirm this monster as the AG of our country. THAT is what is truly chilling, and a sad sign of how far down the slope to fascism we are.

[two gun sid]

5. "Lawyers Disagree All The Time"

This was what Gonzo's apologists' pushed yesterday. Torture is just an academic argument. Good people can disagree about whether torture is proper or improper. If anyone wonders how Abu Gharib happened they should wonder no more.

I can only come to the conclusion that: torture is sanctioned, as policy, by the Bush administration. Torture continues at Gitmo, in Iraq, in Afghanistan and at "ghost" facilities throughout the world.

The world will not forget what has been done in our name.