Depressing email....

[Bigmack]

... from a friend today. He's a really great political observer in the same way that Studs Terkel is. He just sits and listens at the barber shop, the coffee shop, and places where people hang out. Bear in mind, he's in a very blue state.
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"Had coffee at Western Donut today----Minding my own business and
two different individuals sat down. The first guy worked at a Rental
station on 116th--makes 28,000 a year and his wife cleans houses for
under the table cash. His two Middle School age kids get a reduced
lunch and the other child with Downs Syndrome is given state aid. He
talked to the other fellah about how Bush is gonna give him a piece of
SS, is winning the war on terror, and is lowering taxes.
The other guy, I know, is a sometimes paper hanger who got a
divorce and is living at his Mom's house by the high school. He has been divorced for five years, and can't seem to get on his feet. He starts rattling how Rush Limbaugh is his only source of news and education about what is going on.Then, an especially harsh tirade against gays marriage.
Some nice looking gal came in and he remarked what a nice ass she had
and a nice front porch. He started criticizing TV and the schools for
teaching his kids(he doen't pay support often) and failing of teaching
morals. Bush will set us straight in the next four years. Then, in a
stunner he said he hopes Bush makes the tax cuts permanent.
I sat there not saying a word. Bigmack, ---FDR and the New
Deal-- SS - we will never see again in our lifetime--saddens
me that we have to go through this.
With this kind of suppport from the rank and file it is hopeless.
I will never listen again to idle talk--it made me sick sick sick
sick"

[ArkDem]

1. Hard to believe a guy would talk about not paying child support.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

6. Not at all

The most holier-than-thou freep I ever met never paid child support. I stopped talking to him because of that.

[ArkDem]

12. He went around talking about it??

[eleny]

2. Sounds like the sometime paper hanger could use this link

http://www.dior.whs.mil/forms/DD0004.pdf

[candy]

3. What is it about these idiots that they have an opinion on-----

everything. I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut,but I have a big mouth.

[seaj11]

4. It really is bewildering, isn't it? n/t

[fertilizeonarbusto]

5. UGH

You know, sometimes it's best not to listen to that sort of thing. Prepare yourself for a really nasty statement: some people are too fucking stupid and selfish to care about. They obviously don't care about us. So, let then fuck themselves and concentrate on people who are willing to work for everyone's good and be open-minded and kind-hearted. Those two fucks will deserve everything that's coming to them. Anyway, feel bad for the writer for having to be exposed to such pollution.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. I don't feel sorry for these idiots. They chose mediocrity and...

they'll get it up the back end.

:nopity:

[KurtNYC]

8. This is addressed in "What's the Matter with Kansas"

Full title: What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America

The largely blue collar citizens of Kansas can be counted upon to be a "red" state in any election, voting solidly Republican and possessing a deep animosity toward the left. This, according to author Thomas Frank, is a pretty self-defeating phenomenon, given that the policies of the Republican Party benefit the wealthy and powerful at the great expense of the average worker. According to Frank, the conservative establishment has tricked Kansans, playing up the emotional touchstones of conservatism and perpetuating a sense of a vast liberal empire out to crush traditional values while barely ever discussing the Republicans' actual economic policies and what they mean to the working class. Thus the pro-life Kansas factory worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically. To much of America, Kansas is an abstract, "where Dorothy wants to return. Where Superman grew up." But Frank, a native Kansan, separates reality from myth in What's the Matter with Kansas and tells the state's socio-political history from its early days as a hotbed of leftist activism to a state so entrenched in conservatism that the only political division remaining is between the moderate and more-extreme right wings of the same party. Frank, the founding editor of The Baffler and a contributor to Harper's and The Nation, knows the state and its people...

Propaganda works.

[physioex]

10. I've read portions of the book at...

The coffee house. Yea isn't that some strange stuff......

[Jose Diablo]

9. You know, its to bad that we cannot have a war

and the only ones drafted would be dipshits like these.

But, it wouldn't happen that way I am afraid. Somehow, ignorance just keeps spreading.

I don't think these people are the majority though, the neocons and corps harnessed these dopes to get political power. That and election fraud. Maybe there should be a literacy test for voting.

[idiosyncratic]

11. Another reason to take Jeff Christie (Rush Limbaugh) off the air.

The people who listen to RW radio develop an antagonistic manner.

I have a friend who is a very nice person . . . until she starts talking about something that Roger Hedgecock or Rush Limbaugh has brought up. Then, her whole demeanor changes.

It is frightening . . . :scared: