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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:07 PM
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Government control of Internet on the way?
This may have been discussed on DU before, but if not, George Tenet called for government control of the Internet at a conference late last year. See the story from Washington Times: http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20041201-114750-6381r

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Former CIA Director George J. Tenet yesterday called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet, which he called "a potential Achilles' heel."
"I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability," he told an information-technology security conference in Washington, "but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control."

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BlackCoffeeSound Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:08 PM
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1. Naturally!!
heh heh....I KNEW it was coming. Oh mercy, it's just the last frontier of un-regulated thought. It has to be a threat.....

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theresistance Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:17 PM
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The photo...huh?
Is this photo real? Wasn't it Bill Clinton who made this secret society salute also?

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BlackCoffeeSound Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:19 PM
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5. nah man
Its real. Laura Bush is a HUUUUGE Dio fan.

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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:23 PM
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6. I heard she tried to convince Georgie
to change the national anthem to Holy Diver
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BlackCoffeeSound Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:41 PM
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10. actually
She liked the song 'Rainbow in the Dark' but Cheney nixed it for "personal" reasons.





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Maria Celeste Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:15 PM
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13. Not just the US Gov
The UN has been trying to worm its way into control of it too. So far its not much, but the geek crowd has taken notice. After what is happening in China and what France tried with Ebay, its a matter of time before national sovereignty is asserted over net space.
Key issues like the root DNS are still controlled out of the US. Attempts to provide alternative root servers and alternative hierarchies have not faired well.

Not sure what will be worse governments or big corporations setting the rules. I trust neither.


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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:10 PM
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2. they can erect firewalls
and security systems on government networks, but they can't control the internet as a whole. Cites are launched from too many different countries. Despite John Ascroft's obsession with pornography before 9/11, he was able to do very little about it.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:11 PM
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3. The internets?
you can monitor the internets, but there is no way to "control" the internets, altho China has certainly made a good effort to do so.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:17 PM
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4. maybe one of the internets, but not all of them
There are way too many :dunce:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:26 PM
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7. What about the DNS system?
How does it work? Could you regulate which sites were recognized/allowed from the top down?
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Cinletharwi Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:32 PM
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8. Their rhetoric about controlling it is laughable
http://www.freenetproject.org/

They just don't get it.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:34 PM
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9. But wouldn't that be socialism?
I thought the right hated socialism! :shrug:
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 09:46 PM
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11. more like Anti-Socialism
;)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 10:02 PM
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12. Only when it doesn't suit them. The 'right' often practices socialist
ideals.

'government subsidy' to large corporations is a form of socialism, end of story.

Government allows a small group of people to control the nation's entire media (save for the internet) thanks to a 1996 telecom act. More socialism, just of a different sort.

The lottery - everyone pays in but only one wins. A very perverse sort of socialism; the money going in, if it were to help more than one person, would do society infinitely more good.

It's "socialism" to them if any assistance or amendment of any sort benefits the ordinary person anybody except the large corporation.

I could go on forever...
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-10-05 04:13 AM
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14. none of that is socialist
Socialism posits that workers own the means of their production. Corporations do not profit at the expense of citizens in a socialist society.

The lottery is the most regressive kind of tax imaginable. It benefits the rich who never pay the tax because they have no need to enter a lottery.

This government rapes the people; it doesn't serve it.
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